Good to hear, was a steam thread this morning with people complaining about the implementation but maybe lower resolution users.
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The recent Tomb Raider trilogy on Steam just got updates (EGS Account not required, but Always Online DRM is)
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What a shocker, you mean Square didn't intentionally patch in always online DRM and account requirements into decades old games that go on sale for 5 dollars every 2 months?!?!
We're really going to be snarky about this when it's Square and a PC port?
lol
Anyone care to explain these cryptic messages?
We already know that EGS attempted to track steam user data a while back and only responded to it after being called out on it:
Epic says it doesn't use Steam data without permission after Reddit accusations (Updated)
A thread on Reddit accused the Epic launcher of illicitly mining and sharing Steam data, but Epic says it's not the case.
www.pcgamer.com
I would like to avoid giving EpicGames more data than neccessary, really any company more data than necessary and the fact that they did it once doesn't inspire confidence. Who knows what else they're doing with our data nowadays that the story lost traction.
i saw some weird blocky shadows even with everything on max this morning but then i stopped seeing them after changing some settings around. barely helpful but i can at least attest to some weirdness.
I get this weird glitch on the right side of the screen when I set DLSS to balanced, like the very edge of the screen is going super saiyan. Only has happened in a specific area and only on balanced.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Antagonizing Fellow Member; History of the Same
What is there to explain? Of course someone working for EA, a corporation that is also buddy-buddy with Epic, will advocate in favor of telemetry, always online DRMs and against consumer rights.
Cardinal sin to change a sold product and make it worst for existing customers.
They can do whatever they want with future releases, put your terms of service on the tin and people can decide BEFORE purchasing your shit.
They can do whatever they want with future releases, put your terms of service on the tin and people can decide BEFORE purchasing your shit.
That some games already released already use some servers. Coming later matter because you're the one disrupting the way things work. To accomodate to Epic's new ecosystem, it means for some games to have split servers, because Epic wants more money, thus making the experience for the end user worse.
They don't need to have access to Steam backend. They could just use Steamworks. Or make their server communicate with it. Multiple games do that already.
Why I don't blame all those companies equally ? Because those other companies didn't bring such issues. Even when I buy an Origin game on Steam, I don't have split servers. Why there's only ONE fucking company that cause those issues ?
In fact, Windows Store caused those shenanigans a few years ago... Guess, what ? They got a lot of shit for this.
I'm assuming their posts come from their knowledge as a dev and not pushing an EA/Epic agenda, and saying they are is pot stirring. They're a dev who happens to work for EA, not EA's PR.
I'd love to think that, but I wouldn't put anything past SE when it comes to their PC efforts.
jfc what is this post....
regarding the update, it seems like someone fucked up, i can't imagine the way it is now was intentional
Eh, still there's a long post history of taking EGS defense at any given chance.
Not even in a "I don't care about it" manner, as much as a straight "Oh neat, I'm totally going to buy stuff on the EGS because it's a lot better than Steam for me".
Which sure, is probably just a personal take, but one even more questionable/suspicious than one I would expect from an explicit EA PR, frankly.
This reminds me when X-Com 2 got a new launcher years after release that:
1) was bad
2) did not work properly
3) broke mods
1) was bad
2) did not work properly
3) broke mods
Anyone care to explain these cryptic messages?
We already know that EGS attempted to track steam user data a while back and only responded to it after being called out on it:
Epic says it doesn't use Steam data without permission after Reddit accusations (Updated)
A thread on Reddit accused the Epic launcher of illicitly mining and sharing Steam data, but Epic says it's not the case.
I would like to avoid giving EpicGames more data than neccessary, really any company more data than necessary and the fact that they did it once doesn't inspire confidence. Who knows what else they're doing with our data nowadays that the story lost traction.
In one of the sets of Epic documents released during the Apple presentation, one page said that Steam doesn't share personal identifying data, but Epic's policy is "WIP" and depends on jurisdiction, although I don't know if that is specifically referring to that tickbox under free games about sharing your email for updates or something.
I can't seem to find the slides now though.
More and more publishers (and at times even individual developers) are starting to do this crap of adding their own "launcher inside the launcher" and frankly it annoys me to no end how according to some people "Complaining is pointless and we should just bend over and accept it".
I strongly disagree. Complaining and being VERY vocal about the dislike for this garbage is basically the only weapon we have to not let shitty trends like this getting out of hand.
I don't even care if as a company you think you are entitled to our personal data: at very least find an non-invasive way to gather it directly in-game without pestering your customers with "wannabe-services" that don't "serve" us jack shit.
yeah, I did not get it for free FFS
And it pisses me off that the community had to create their own launcher to get the functionality working again.
Well, yeah, RT shadows will be lower res with DLSS. They should probably filter/denoise them better under such circumstances though. Some of these artifacts look as if denoiser is completely off with DLSS active.
But tbf I saw similar artifacts with shadows in SOTTR even before the patch.
I mean they're free to share their knowledge at any time
Sure. Heck, I'd love to hear from anyone with working knowledge of EOS. My problem with that post is claiming somebody must be shilling just because they work for an EA owned company. It's especially odd to say it when EA isn't one of the parties involved here.
Steam is a own platform though, just like Epic. Steam just has the huge advantage they are the go to ecosystem on PC and thus most developers port their games to steam and work on cross play between PC and PC (steam). The game devs make these things work. In that sense Valve don't seem to be different than Epic and that's my point. Btw I very much doubt developers can use steamworks for a Epic store releases. Do you have a source?
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Im really starting to hate Square. And Fuck Epic Game Store and Tim Sweeney.
Now we're supposed to update our Steam copies for EOS? Fuck that.
Now we're supposed to update our Steam copies for EOS? Fuck that.
There's a ton of games on steam that use EOS. this is more of Square fucking up then anything else.
Square will buddy up with anyone that waves money in front of their face. Everything and anything is for sale at Square.
https://steamdb.info/tech/SDK/EpicOnlineServices/
My first experience was with overcooked 2 which got a huge update and broke the multiplayer. They rolled it back afterwards though.
Holy shit that's a lot of games! I guess I'm so focused on single player campaigns I never noticed.
That's nice and I didn't know that. I also read that not all functionality are available without using Steam, but that's a given. Still great this API is open source.
But also not all make sense, You probably don't want or need Steam Achievements, Steam Cloud, etc. if you're playing via EGS (since this would add steam login requirement).
Workshop cross-compatibility would be great addition though imo.
Yeah, was a surprise to me too. My first thought was the situation here was being caused by EOS shenanigans, but of course if it's being implemented properly we shouldn't be noticing it at all, like with most the games on this list.
Yeah, but the question is if they intend to attempt this again after the "technical issues" get solved.
They only reverted Rise patch. TR2013 and Shadow are still on new patch.
