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I don't care about the rest of the soundtrack. I hear Superman's Theme and for a sec...I feel like I can fly.
Master Anth0ny, your hate has blinded you.
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The Prequels have the best music of all 3 trilogies.
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I don't care about the rest of the soundtrack. I hear Superman's Theme and for a sec...I feel like I can fly.
Master Anth0ny, your hate has blinded you.
It's funny because AOTC has a pretty phoned in score overall, but Williams still manages to drop a gem like Across the Stars.
While I think the OG trilogy has the best music, my personal favorite score is ROTS.
That... is actually true.
Even the OT has some questionable acting.
Yeah, I agree that AOTC's score is mostly a bit whatever. (By Star Wars standards, at least.) But man, what a banger AtS is. I've managed to distance myself from immediately thinking of the weakly-written movie romance first and foremost whenever I hear it and it's been on workout and walk playlists ever since. lol
I mean, the prequels' music has always been recognised as good.
It's not Johnny's fault his bravura waltz Across the Stars is paired with one of the most unconvincing romances in cinema.
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I agree. The only weak part of the ST is the story. 3 solid individual movies .
Unpopular opinion, but I thought Alec Guinness looked kind of bored in ANH (not to mention ESB and ROTJ).
I feel like the only reason why he was nominated for best supporting actor is because of his pedigree.
We all know he thought it was beneath him, but I actually think Alec does a really great job of disguising his contempt for the material in ANH. His appearances in the next two films though? Pretty phoned in.
I legitimately don't know what's going on here. Yes, the prequels have Duel of the Fates which is top tier and amazing. But that's it - The rest of the trilogy has no stand out tracks at all. Padme's funeral? ? ?
Meanwhile the original trilogy has multiple multiple tracks which are still used and played today in concerts. Tracks which everyone knows as soon as you hear them. Literally some of the most iconic pieces of music in Hollywood's history.
How is this even in question?
Meanwhile the original trilogy has multiple multiple tracks which are still used and played today in concerts. Tracks which everyone knows as soon as you hear them. Literally some of the most iconic pieces of music in Hollywood's history.
How is this even in question?
They're probably the best acted and best looking SW films.
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Dont get me confused, Of course the OT has more iconic music but that does not make it inherently better. Across the Stars is a Masterwork of music and probably top 3 Star Wars songs all time. There are others for sure. Anakin's Theme is also a gem.
Yes OT had iconic tracks as does the PT.
Duel of the Fates
Qui-Gon's Mission
Anakin's theme
Anakin is free
Across the Stars
Battle of the Heroes
Padme's Ruminations
Anakin's Betrayal
etc.
I don't want to get into a list war.
But for me the Prequels represent Williams embracing that his music is telling the story so there are TONS of little moments that we get along the way where got some in the OT that we get here in spades. I recommend for anyone who has the time or inclination, and access spend an evening just listening to the music and the story being told through it.
Duel of the Fates
Qui-Gon's Mission
Anakin's theme
Anakin is free
Across the Stars
Battle of the Heroes
Padme's Ruminations
Anakin's Betrayal
etc.
I don't want to get into a list war.
But for me the Prequels represent Williams embracing that his music is telling the story so there are TONS of little moments that we get along the way where got some in the OT that we get here in spades. I recommend for anyone who has the time or inclination, and access spend an evening just listening to the music and the story being told through it.
It's great, but it's also blatantly a copy of Blade Runner. As a lot of Kevin Kiner's Clone Wars music straight up copied other films like Wrath of Khan and The Dark Knight too.
Err...yes?
Rey's theme
Poe's theme
Kylo Ren's theme
March of the Resistance
Jedi Steps
The Spark
Rose's theme
Holdo's theme
Old Luke's theme
Speeder Chase
The Rise of Skywalker
Anthem of Evil
Theme for that stormtrooper girl in TRoS whose name escapes me cause I didn't like her
etc.
There's a couple I'm forgetting at the moment though, especially since they were used only once or twice (like the piece for when Rey is in Tatooine). There's also Adventures of Han and Galaxy's Edge, but not technically sequel themes, as they are for spin-offs.
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I'd disagree on Attack of the Clones. Across the Stars is beautiful but aside from that everything is reused Phantom Menace and Harry Potter music.
AotC is the weakest of the three (in all respects, not just music), but what's there is great. Also Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets re-uses AotC music, not the other way around.
But that is one big reason the originals get the edge.
I thought the music for Zam's chase and the mystery suite for Kamino was excellent.
Older tracks are more recognizable because they have been around and have been played more often.
Dark Mysteries
Return to Tatoonie
Spying on Separatists
The Tusken Camp
The Dark Side Takes Root
Shimi's Funeral
etc.
Nope.
Oh, true.
Eh. None of these are that impressive to me. It's just not anywhere near up to par with the other two prequels IMO. And it may not be John Williams' fault but it doesn't help that the climactic battle uses the same music as TPM did for its big battle.
Overall, the Original Trilogy has the better score. But the best songs in Star Wars are from the Prequels. When the Prequels shine, they shine brighter than the OT. The OT just constantly slaps.
the sequel score is also really underrated. John Williams does a great job. One thing the sequels definitely has over the prequels is that the score actually lines up with the cinematography. Idk if i'm wording that right tho.
the sequel score is also really underrated. John Williams does a great job. One thing the sequels definitely has over the prequels is that the score actually lines up with the cinematography. Idk if i'm wording that right tho.
While they may not be memorable to you these are grade A Williams tracks seen no where else. Again if you personally don't like them, cool. But he was bringing it.
Lol aside from Across the Stars they're in no way "grade A" Williams tracks. And I can easily remember all of them so they're still memorable to me, just not that great, certainly not among his best work.
I do think Williams was firing on absolutely ALL cylinders during the prequels. Top of his game honestly. ALL of the music is incredible. Not one bad track on the three albums. From the bombastic bangers to the calm and tranquil to the sweeping and beautiful. He adds such a mood to the trilogy. It's some of my favorite music of all time.
Again. I respect you might not feel that way but objectively this track bangs. I've played the scene for people who know nothing about Star Wars and they like it.
Williams was just at the height of his powers in the late 70s and early 80s. The ET soundtrack is probably his pinnacle. His prequel output speaks to a seasoned composer doing some of his most creative, experimental and mature work, but for me, Across the Stars is notable because of how it recalls the complexity and romance of his OT material, sounding like a lost 70s cut. Which is not to say tracks like Anakin's Theme aren't brilliant (they are), but nothing extracts an emotional response like the grand, string-laden ballads of his classic oeuvre.
I mean they are very good to great at times, but OT has probably the most iconic scores in movie history here.
All the music of course still sounds great. But the best part of this track is the last minute which is the Force theme and Duel of the Fates. ROTS is Williams firing off on all cylinders to me, AOTC is not.
As soon as I heard this I thought it was just perfect for the show.
Hell naw. Go rewatch the originals. They're packed with iconic music.
Also, Rogue One's soundtrack is by far the best from the Disney era Star Wars films. Legit great.
Also, Rogue One's soundtrack is by far the best from the Disney era Star Wars films. Legit great.
This.
The music is pretty good in the prequels but everytime I start to feel something they are undermined by George's terrible dialog and pacing.
Across the Stars is way better heard without film than when set to the Geonosis Arena battle.
OT still has the best soundtrack because most of the iconic themes come from there.
If its between PT and ST, all I can say is at least with the ST, the music works with the visuals and is allowed to breathe and seep into the scene, it doesn't happen enough int he PT, maybe mostly in RoTS.
Across the Stars is way better heard without film than when set to the Geonosis Arena battle.
OT still has the best soundtrack because most of the iconic themes come from there.
If its between PT and ST, all I can say is at least with the ST, the music works with the visuals and is allowed to breathe and seep into the scene, it doesn't happen enough int he PT, maybe mostly in RoTS.
Rogue One's score is phenomenal, but fans of the OT will definetaly gravitate to it because it was written to have the same flavor of the OT; PT and ST each had very unique styles and flavors for each trilogy.
Yeah, for the most part*, John Williams was actually able to write music for the finished cut of the movie in the ST. It wasn't edited and moved around and jumbled up like it was done in the PT, which is why it all flows so naturally.
* His score was heavily edited at least some parts of TRoS however. For example, Falcon Flight was written for the opening chase scene with the Falcon going through hyperspace, but the exact track was reused multiple times in the movie, and even replaced Speeder Chase completely out of the film.