Im not wearing my glasses and my mind sort of warped this sentence into "The one where he wants to kill everyone" for some reason
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"The POTUS has the authority to do what the POTUS has the authority to do, which is very powerful. When somebody’s the POTUS, the authority is total"
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They hate whatever they're told to hate by the loudest right-wing voice du jour. Consistency doesn't exist for them.
The GOP died when the Tea Party-ers took over. Now it's only called the GOP but in reality it's the American White Nationalist Party now.
Trump had control of authorities like the TSA and our borders and basically did nothing to protect the country from having infected folks enter our borders (no testing, no forced quarantine, not even proper questions). The airports are something the federal government had control over. However, if a state decides to shut down schools, etc. the federal government can't change that because those powers are given to the states. The founding fathers were scared of a federal government that was too powerful, which is why the states have their own powers.
As to what the states can do, it's because of the 10th Amendment to the US consitution. From Wikipedia:
"The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] It expresses the principle of federalism and states' rights, which strictly supports the entire plan of the original Constitution for the United States of America, by stating that the federal government possesses only those powers delegated to it by the United States Constitution. All remaining powers are reserved for the states or the people."
I'll take "Things Barack Obama could have said to make Sean Hannity's head explode" for $200, Alex.
What is "My authority is total"?
What is "My authority is total"?
Much like the feds in Canada, Trump had power over some things but not others.
There are things Trump should have done (such as mobilizing production), and he could certainly have called on all governors to initiate a lockdown, but he has no power to order them himself.
Ah got it thanks. A bit like in Canada then, some provinces did a shutdown before others and some provincial pms were displeased about the lack of airport shutdowns which were the federals responsibility amongst other things
These clips better be running in anti-Trump campaign ads non stop this fall.
Remember when conservatives criticized progressives about labeling Trump an autocrat and wannabe dictator, etc? Oh they still do? And Trump still is?
At this point it literally doesn't matter what Trump says or does. I avoid 90% of these threads (which there are a lot, unfortunately for the country). No president in history has gotten away with what he's said and done. So I could come into every thread and get mad and yell at clouds or hope that when we have a chance to vote him out of office enough Americans are reasonable. Because if somehow Trump gets elected after all of this with a democratic nominee that as flawed as he is has reasonably broad appeal...then America deserves anything that comes its way.
At this point it literally doesn't matter what Trump says or does. I avoid 90% of these threads (which there are a lot, unfortunately for the country). No president in history has gotten away with what he's said and done. So I could come into every thread and get mad and yell at clouds or hope that when we have a chance to vote him out of office enough Americans are reasonable. Because if somehow Trump gets elected after all of this with a democratic nominee that as flawed as he is has reasonably broad appeal...then America deserves anything that comes its way.
He doesn't have to and he knows it. He can just say whatever comes into his rotted brain with no consequences.
A large swath of this forum have decided they're fine with it.
Meanwhile the West Coast (Washington, Oregon, California, and Nevada) forms a Pact and on the East Coast there's a multi-State Council (New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Rhode Island). This could end very "not well".
Not shock at all that he thinks of says this. I'm happy reporters went after him for it.
First he showed no leadership when it was clear the coronavirus was going to hit us. Then he continued his lack of leadership as it spread throughout the country. Now this fool thinks he can just tell the country when to start back up.
He is willing to let hundreds of thousands if not millions of people die so he can have his good economy to win an election
First he showed no leadership when it was clear the coronavirus was going to hit us. Then he continued his lack of leadership as it spread throughout the country. Now this fool thinks he can just tell the country when to start back up.
He is willing to let hundreds of thousands if not millions of people die so he can have his good economy to win an election
Isn't this what the second amendment is for. Crazy that the people who defend it so hard will be willing to fight for a dictator.
He isn't exactly wrong, the primary check and balance on the executive branch is supposed to be congress and impeachment. And the president has gained more power every presidency since fdr. We saw how impeachment went. If they want to push for more power to the president there aren't a whole lot of laws to actually stop him, especially with owning the supreme court. Trump's stupidity is our greatest defense now.
No, he is exactly wrong.
The Constitution grants power to the states where ever it is not explicitly enumerated in the Constitution. It's a founding principle of American government and explicitly stated in the Constitution.
Now, of course, no Republicans would do anything about Trump abusing power. They didn't with ukraine, they didn't with the emoluments clause, they didn't with any of his illegal firings, they haven't with anything. So theyre granting him this leash.
But, constitutionally, the president does not have total power over the states at all. Infact the Constitution specifically rebukes this idea Even from a practical perspective he doesn't. 45/50 states have stay at home orders and have closed non-essential businesses, and the federal government has not once issued any stay at home order. So its non sensical that Trump could lift a stay at home order that he himself never gave.
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I literally burst out laughing when he said he had the power to do what he had the power to do. The wheels were spinning and gears were grabbing onto anything to put words out.
One nuance to these points. Congress could probably override state stay at home orders pursuant to its power to regulate interstate commerce. Trump alone couldn't do it absent congressional authority though.
He and his supporters don't give anything of a shit. You can't defeat him with "gotchas" because no one except the media class and some well-to-do liberals and moderates care.
How has no one put a bullet in this guy yet?
...that's not a call to action or anything, just a legitimate question...
...that's not a call to action or anything, just a legitimate question...
Trump wants all of the authority, all of the credit and NONE of the responsibility.
That's how things work in his world. The responsibility always falls on someone else.
Does it make sense? Of course not.
But it doesn't have to when you're a son of a bitch autocrat who has never been held accountable for anything and to anyone.
Yes but if you have total authority you also have total responsibility, they go hand in hand, he really wants to be a dictator.
The president doesn't make laws. Congress would have to pass laws that he'd enact, or pass rules granting him some sort of emergency powers to regulate intra- or inner-state commerce. I don't think they have yet.... have they?