The PC Gaming Era | February 2019

derFeef · Feb 14, 2019

ArjanN said:
I find it hard to tell how much of this is Crackdown 3 being bad, and how much of it is the game having to bear the cross of a being a big exclusive game/being around so long.

From videos it basically looks like Saint Row 4 with better draw distance. (which makes sense really since SR4 was cribbing from Crackdown pretty hard)

It's not bad, I am having fun. If you like Crackdown than you will enjoy this. It just brings nothing new to the table and honestly I think it also doesn't need to.
The game just brings some heavy luggage because of the development and platform it is coming out on - that's why I think the reviews are what they are.

arts&crafts · Feb 14, 2019

bought the 2 months of gamepass for Crackdown and browsing the store it looks like a great deal for xbox users but for PC it is pointless. I cant tell what games are available for PC as even the ones that are dont say Windows on them. I assume just the few first party MS ones, but Xbox users have Below, Ashen, We Happy Few, ect. If MS could bring these games on board for PC as well there would be a lot more interest.

thirtypercent · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
bought the 2 months of gamepass for Crackdown and browsing the store it looks like a great deal for xbox users but for PC it is pointless. I cant tell what games are available for PC as even the ones that are dont say Windows on them. I assume just the few first party MS ones, but Xbox users have Below, Ashen, We Happy Few, ect. If MS could bring these games on board for PC as well there would be a lot more interest.

We Happy Few PC is in Game Pass.

Fun fact: You can scroll through games under Downloads and Updates -> Xbox Game Pass but if you click on WHF there it'll take you to a version that's not installable. You need to use search.

Volimar · Feb 14, 2019

dex3108 said:
Yeah Spellbreak is more-less dead as dodo on Twitch. Barely above 1K viewers on Twitch.

It's still in Alpha and Apex just launched. We should probably give it a bit more of a chance before we announce it DOA.

Personally, I'm cheering for it. It looks fun. Though if the streams from sodapoppin and the like hasn't ignited more interest it is a bit concerning.

yuraya · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
bought the 2 months of gamepass for Crackdown and browsing the store it looks like a great deal for xbox users but for PC it is pointless. I cant tell what games are available for PC as even the ones that are dont say Windows on them. I assume just the few first party MS ones, but Xbox users have Below, Ashen, We Happy Few, ect. If MS could bring these games on board for PC as well there would be a lot more interest.

Some new MCC news is supposed to happen next month. Hopefully they finally announce the Win10 edition.

They really need some type of killer app for the store.

arts&crafts · Feb 14, 2019

thirtypercent said:
We Happy Few is in Game Pass.

Fun fact: You can scroll through games unde Download and Updates -> Xbox Game Pass but if you click on WHF there it'll take you to a version that's not installable. You need to use search.

Interesting, I will take a look. You are right I just searched and now I can install it. That is awesome, going to play after Crackdown while I am subscribed.

edit. Finally found a list. 17 games on Windows game pass. (Crackdown isnt on this list for some reason and 8 of them are various versions if the same game)
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/best-selling/games/pc?IsGamePass=true

bmdubya · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
bought the 2 months of gamepass for Crackdown and browsing the store it looks like a great deal for xbox users but for PC it is pointless. I cant tell what games are available for PC as even the ones that are dont say Windows on them. I assume just the few first party MS ones, but Xbox users have Below, Ashen, We Happy Few, ect. If MS could bring these games on board for PC as well there would be a lot more interest.

Yeah, Ashen got taken way from Epic at the last minute. Up until the Game Awards it was a Play Anywhere title, and then it got announced as a Epic Games Store exclusive and got removed as a Play Anywhere title. I was so annoyed because I was going to check it out through Game Pass.

Actually just paused my Game Pass. I put a lot of time into Forza Horizon 4 and Sea of Thieves, but I will keep it paused until they officially Game Pass on PC.

arts&crafts · Feb 14, 2019

This is going to seem like a stupid question, but how do you play a game that you installed from Gamepass? I installed Crackdown 3 and it is nowhere on my computer and there is nowhere to hit "Play". When I go back to the app store it says "install". Did it delete itself?

TioChuck · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
This is going to seem like a stupid question, but how do you play a game that you installed from Gamepass? I installed Crackdown 3 and it is nowhere on my computer and there is nowhere to hit "Play". When I go back to the app store it says "install". Did it delete itself?

Game should be in the start menu, if not and is showing install on the store, it probrably deleted it self.

SuikerBrood · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
This is going to seem like a stupid question, but how do you play a game that you installed from Gamepass? I installed Crackdown 3 and it is nowhere on my computer and there is nowhere to hit "Play". When I go back to the app store it says "install". Did it delete itself?

If you go to apps in your Windows setting, is it under the app list? And what happens if you type 'Crackdown' in your search bar?

When the game is not in your app list, it's not installed. Remember; Wrecking Zone and Campaign are two different downloads.

Chance Hale · Feb 14, 2019

Kingdom Hearts 3 performance is so bad and all over the place on One X. Really hope it gets ported eventually

Every second has stuttering and the menus are locked at 30 ;-;

Teggy · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
This is going to seem like a stupid question, but how do you play a game that you installed from Gamepass? I installed Crackdown 3 and it is nowhere on my computer and there is nowhere to hit "Play". When I go back to the app store it says "install". Did it delete itself?

TioChuck said:
Game should be in the start menu, if not and is showing install on the store, it probrably deleted it self.

Assuming you did install it, also look at the games list in the XBOX app. If it's not there it's not installed.

I'm enjoying Wildlands in that I can pop into it for 30 minutes to an hour if I want (shorter even!) and attack an outpost or go grab some resources. I could see it being really fun co-op, but setting up really effective shot sync, releasing a bunch of rebels from prison and then sneaking up to an HVT in the chaos is satisfying in its own way.

yuraya · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
This is going to seem like a stupid question, but how do you play a game that you installed from Gamepass? I installed Crackdown 3 and it is nowhere on my computer and there is nowhere to hit "Play". When I go back to the app store it says "install". Did it delete itself?

Probably just a glitch in the Windows 10 store Matrix.

Everything will be fine.

ArjanN · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
bought the 2 months of gamepass for Crackdown and browsing the store it looks like a great deal for xbox users but for PC it is pointless. I cant tell what games are available for PC as even the ones that are dont say Windows on them. I assume just the few first party MS ones, but Xbox users have Below, Ashen, We Happy Few, ect. If MS could bring these games on board for PC as well there would be a lot more interest.

Pretty sure it was rumored a more legit version of gamepass for PC was going to happen this year.

arts&crafts · Feb 14, 2019

Okay it appeared in my "xbox" games now in the app. Anyways, played Crackdown 3 for a few hours and it is great fun. It is not innovate in any way but it is exactly what I want from a Crackdown. If you liked Crackdown 1 you will like Crackdown 3.

Teggy · Feb 14, 2019

arts&crafts said:
Okay it appeared in my "xbox" games now in the app. Anyways, played Crackdown 3 for a few hours and it is great fun. It is not innovate in any way but it is exactly what I want from a Crackdown. If you liked Crackdown 1 you will like Crackdown 3.

<bad joke about how I didn't play crackdown 2 and am going to be totally lost with the lore>

Cool, looking forward to collecting agility orbs.

zkylon · Feb 14, 2019

deadfire getting turn based combat sounds so cool, hopefully i'll feel like playing it soon, i hate rtwp

Teggy · Feb 14, 2019

zkylon said:
deadfire getting turn based combat sounds so cool, hopefully i'll feel like playing it soon, i hate rtwp

I'm curious how they changed it, because without auto attacks I assume you have to buff the damage on abilities so battles don't take ages.

I'm trying to mix up my genres these days because the mistake I have made so many times is trying to play a game and its sequel back to back. I almost always get burned out. Most recently this happened with Risen 1/2, AC Rogue/AC Unity, KOTOR 1/2...really, I've done this a ton of times. So having finished Pillars 1 I am giving that series a nice breather. I am still playing Vesperia and FFX and will hopefully follow through to the end. I'm mixing in a bunch of shooters and stuff, and when that starts to clear out I'm going to give Divinity OS another shot.

ramoisdead · Feb 15, 2019

METRO EXODUS IS RELEASED ON STEAM.

Let's see those numbers skyrocket. =P

Chance Hale · Feb 15, 2019

So excited for rtx, best gimmick <3

GrrImAFridge · Feb 15, 2019

Nabs said:
Is there a decryption process on the Win Store, or should I preload tonight?

Steam's the only platform that encrypts pre-load data. The WinStore just denies access to the game until it's 12am in your country as determined by Windows' region setting, while GOG, Origin, Uplay, etc. withhold the executable until unlock o'clock.

Alexandros · Feb 15, 2019

Hektor said:
So i guess the idea that Epic helped bringing Journey to PC was complete bullshit afterall?

https://twitter.com/RobotBrush/status/1096092442670059521

Not surprised in the least.

Pixieking · Feb 15, 2019

Was Journey confirmed as total exclusive for the EGS, or just timed?

Chance Hale · Feb 15, 2019

Alright I take back my comment about decrypting not taking that long because Exodus is taking forever lol

dex3108 · Feb 15, 2019

Seeing those Metro benchmarks results for GTX1060 hurts. I guess tnx Epic for making it easier to not pre-order game because I wouldn't play it until i got new GPU XD I am not playing metro on Medium to Low settings XD

.exe · Feb 15, 2019

Pixieking said:
Was Journey confirmed as total exclusive for the EGS, or just timed?

I don't believe that was explicitly clarified at any point.

Pixieking · Feb 15, 2019

daxy said:
I don't believe that was explicitly clarified at any point.

Fair enough. I'd be leaning towards timed with Flower's release, but *shrugs* God knows. :)

zkylon · Feb 15, 2019

Teggy said:
I'm curious how they changed it, because without auto attacks I assume you have to buff the damage on abilities so battles don't take ages.

I'm trying to mix up my genres these days because the mistake I have made so many times is trying to play a game and its sequel back to back. I almost always get burned out. Most recently this happened with Risen 1/2, AC Rogue/AC Unity, KOTOR 1/2...really, I've done this a ton of times. So having finished Pillars 1 I am giving that series a nice breather. I am still playing Vesperia and FFX and will hopefully follow through to the end. I'm mixing in a bunch of shooters and stuff, and when that starts to clear out I'm going to give Divinity OS another shot.

yeah, i haven't been keeping up with the kickstarter updates but i think it's a very significant systems rework. i'm also worried battles will take ages but i feel fairly confident that they'll have figured it out. at the very least i'd try to default to this mode and see how it plays before reverting/starting over in rtwp mode

rtwp just feels like garbage to me, i liked pillars 1 a lot and the combat was actually fairly enjoyable but it's such a micromanaging headache, i have no idea which part of rtwp people find fun cos i dread them all

also i'm not a huge fan of d&d style character systems, specially the billion mostly-interchangeable spells and how modal abilities work and whatnot. just so overwhelming...

Teggy · Feb 15, 2019

Looks like Origin Access just got a few new additions

-Tie Fighter SE
-Force Unleashed 1&2
-LEGO SW complete saga and The Clone Wars
-Gone Home

So not the most exciting month outside of Anthem.

Galdere · Feb 15, 2019

Lashley said:
Seems like there's been no good movie studio/tv studio simulator games since The Movies :(

Empire TV Tycoon is alright but its like playing a spreadsheet

This looks dead as well unfortunately - https://store.steampowered.com/app/630440/Movie_Studio_Tycoon/

dex3108 · Feb 15, 2019

Oh boy those first impressions for Metro are rough.

AHA-Lambda · Feb 15, 2019

dex3108 said:
Oh boy those first impressions for Metro are rough.

Something wrong with the port?

GrrImAFridge · Feb 15, 2019

AHA-Lambda said:
Something wrong with the port?

The PC version is fine in DX11. The DX12 renderer, however, is very unstable, to the point that you can't even run the benchmark.

Parsnip · Feb 15, 2019

Fantastapotamus said:
Every couple of days I get 0MB updates for every single game I have installed on Steam, what's up with that?

Valve are consolidating the various redists that games typically have into a one shared location, so games get 0MB updates to basically tell them that hey, this first time install file that used to be here is now here instead. If you'll go the _CommonRedist folder of an updated game you'll probably find that the folders are still there but they are empty.

Ge0force · Feb 15, 2019

JaseC said:
Steam's the only platform that encrypts pre-load data. The WinStore just denies access to the game until it's 12am in your country as determined by Windows' region setting

The WinStore encrypts all game data as well. The difference is that they don't decrypt the data when the game is being released, resulting in locked down games that can't be modded.

GrrImAFridge · Feb 15, 2019

Ge0force said:
The WinStore encrypts all game data as well. The difference is that they don't decrypt the data when the game is being released, resulting in locked down games that can't be modded.

Oh, sure, but the context here is the delivery of pre-load data as it applies to playability. With WinStore titles, while your access to game data is limited, this has no bearing on how said data is delivered: a pre-load and a download post-release are exactly the same.

Ge0force · Feb 15, 2019

JaseC said:
Oh, sure, but the context here is the delivery of pre-load data as it applies to playability. With WinStore titles, while your access to game data is limited, this has no bearing on how said data is delivered: a pre-load and a download post-release are exactly the same.

Yes agreed. While I prefer any other solution than permanent locked down games, I hope that Valve takes a good look at uPlay and Origin on how to do pre-loading right.

GrrImAFridge · Feb 15, 2019

Ge0force said:
Yes agreed. While I prefer any other solution than permanent locked down games, I hope that Valve takes a good look at uPlay and Origin on how to do pre-loading right.

Frankly, I don't think it'll change unless devs -- indie devs specifically, as they're the group Valve interacts with the most, and major publishers simply don't care -- start pressing Valve about it. I made a thread in the suggestions forum roughly 18 months ago explaining why unencrypted pre-loads and automatic unlock schedules should be options, but the only replies were from Steam zealots who insisted they already existed or would be pointless without enforcement.

You'd think that Ubi weaponising the manual nature of Steam's release process to put another feather in Uplay's cap would have spurred Valve into action, but, well, that was two years ago now, and here we are.

eonden · Feb 15, 2019

JaseC said:
Frankly, I don't think it'll change unless devs -- indie devs specifically, as they're the group Valve interacts with the most, and major publishers simply don't care -- start pressing Valve about it. I made a thread in the suggestions forum roughly 18 months ago explaining why unencrypted pre-loads and automatic unlock schedules should be options, but the only replies were from Steam zealots who insisted they already existed or would be pointless without enforcement.

You'd think that Ubi weaponising the manual nature of Steam's release process to put another feather in Uplay's cap would have spurred Valve into action, but, well, that was two years ago now, and here we are.

I still find it weird that you need to manually release the games instead of, you know, setting a timer for release. It would be so much easier for devs and I don't think it will be a big effort to implement.

Ascheroth · Feb 15, 2019

JaseC said:
Frankly, I don't think it'll change unless devs -- indie devs specifically, as they're the group Valve interacts with the most, and major publishers simply don't care -- start pressing Valve about it. I made a thread in the suggestions forum roughly 18 months ago explaining why unencrypted pre-loads and automatic unlock schedules should be options, but the only replies were from Steam zealots who insisted they already existed or would be pointless without enforcement.

You'd think that Ubi weaponising the manual nature of Steam's release process to put another feather in Uplay's cap would have spurred Valve into action, but, well, that was two years ago now, and here we are.

Well I just bumped that thread, maybe someone will notice it this time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

dex3108 · Feb 15, 2019

AHA-Lambda said:
Something wrong with the port?

JaseC said:
The PC version is fine in DX11. The DX12 renderer, however, is very unstable, to the point that you can't even run the benchmark.

I wouldn't say fine but just ok. But even on consoles game crashes like crazy.

Uzzy · Feb 15, 2019

zkylon said:
deadfire getting turn based combat sounds so cool, hopefully i'll feel like playing it soon, i hate rtwp

We can no longer be friends.

GrrImAFridge · Feb 15, 2019

Ascheroth said:
Well I just bumped that thread, maybe someone will notice it this time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Of course the first reply is "It's up to publishers." Ugh.

dex3108 said:
I wouldn't say fine but just ok. But even on consoles game crashes like crazy.

Yeah, I replied to a console user in the OT who said he'd been staring at a loading screen for a few minutes.

dex3108 · Feb 15, 2019

JaseC said:
Of course the first reply is "It's up to publishers." Ugh.

Yeah, I replied to a console user in the OT who said he'd been staring at a loading screen for a few minutes.

Is Day1 patch out on Steam yet?

zkylon · Feb 15, 2019

Uzzy said:
We can no longer be friends.

that's good i have a rule to no longer date my friends

Hektor · Feb 15, 2019

Uzzy said:
We can no longer be friends.

Who would want to be friends with alt-right trash like you anyways

Chairmanchuck (另一个我) · Feb 15, 2019

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/snk-heroines-tag-team-frenzy-coming-to-pc-on-february-21

GrrImAFridge · Feb 15, 2019

dex3108 said:
Is Day1 patch out on Steam yet?

Yeah.

zkylon · Feb 15, 2019

thinking of getting a 570 since those things are fairly "cheap" where i live, but i duno about the whole bottleneck thing with my old i5 2500k

no intentions of playing anything on any sort of high settings, just want monster hunter to run well

PC90 · Feb 15, 2019

Chairmanchuck said:
https://gematsu.com/2019/02/snk-heroines-tag-team-frenzy-coming-to-pc-on-february-21

Not the game with SNK in the title that I want :( Oh well.

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