Pricey but pretty. There is not a single other GPU waterblock ever made that looks remotely like the one EK makes for the RTX 3000 FE models, especially with the optional active backplate.
Pricey but pretty. There is not a single other GPU waterblock ever made that looks remotely like the one EK makes for the RTX 3000 FE models, especially with the optional active backplate.
Pricey but pretty. There is not a single other GPU waterblock ever made that looks remotely like the one EK makes for the RTX 3000 FE models, especially with the optional active backplate.
It kind of depends on whether you really NEED a PC now, because there's completely new platforms to be released at the end of the year.Do you think it is worth it to build a new PC (basically new motherboard, ram and CPU since I have everything else) without a GPU and buy that once I can find one for a normal price, which will probably be sometime next year earliest? I would use my GTX970 until then.
I wanted a new PC for a year or more now but I never bothered because I can't find a normal priced GPU. The idea behind my question was to split costs a bit. Pay for a better GPU/Mobo/Ram now and a GPU once I find one. Could be next month, could be next year.It kind of depends on whether you really NEED a PC now, because there's completely new platforms to be released at the end of the year.
I just realized you are using a Seasonic PSU. Is it a pre 2018 Seasonic Focus Gold? If yes, it's 100% the PSU since those specific Focus models are known to not work well with 3080/80Ti/90s with tripping issues.
I'm fairly certain it is. Just saw one yesterday on r/buildapc which is also a 3080Ti + a pre 2018 Seasonic PSU. One solution if you don't want to swap out the PSU is undervolting it, capping the powerdraw and thus removing the spikes.
I have a 2019 Seasonic Prime PX-1000 PSU, that isn't affected by the same issue is it? Black Ops Cold War has been giving me sporadic second-long freezes lately.
wtf
Any more info on this?
I just checked and I bought a Seasonic PX-850 Platinum in 02/19. My rig is dissembled at the moment, but I do remember having this issue and power issues in general with my 3090. I'm guessing mine was a 2018 model? Are you able to tell by serial?
Seasonic PRIME based units experience shutdowns with RTX3080/3090 (and possibly RX6900 XT) GPUs, especially ones with unlocked power limit like FE and ASUS Strix. It is recommended, if going with such units, to overprovision wattage, 1kW for RTX3080 and 1.2kW for RTX3090, or power-limit the GPU, or performing a 'dirty' fix of disconnecting a pin of 12V V-sense wire from PSU-side connector of 24-pin motherboard cable (courtesy of Jonny Guru). Units based on post-2018 revisions of Seasonic Focus platform and majority of units by other OEMs are not affected.
How can I find out? I bought it from Newegg in the fall of 2019.Pre 2018 Prime is built on a similar platform so it has the same issue. Is it a 2019 version, or a 2018 one purchased in 2019?
[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.8 (END OF LIFE) Last Update: 27-07-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or otherwise not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue ...linustechtips.com
You might want to contact Seasonic customer support and get a check.
Looks like a nice list, but ideally you'd want to get a Ryzen 5 5600X in here. It's quite a step up.Hopefully, it's okay to post PC Part Picker links in here?
I'm looking at potentially building this system providing I can get grab a 3060Ti FE at RRP (they do pop up from time to time). I should also be able to knock some cost off this build by finding deals on the CPU and motherboard in particular.
Any concerns anyone would have with this build or advice on where to improve without impacting cost?
What do you mean new platforms?It kind of depends on whether you really NEED a PC now, because there's completely new platforms to be released at the end of the year.
It looks like it's maybe an extra £80 for a 5600x compared to a 3600 so I probably could stretch to that actually without having to save costs elsewhere. Is the performance jump worth it?Looks like a nice list, but ideally you'd want to get a Ryzen 5 5600X in here. It's quite a step up.
Any way to stretch the budget a little bit? You could shave off a few pounds by going for the 3200mhz ram instead.
But in general I like the parts you picked. Thinking about getting the Corsair 4000D myself.
I don't think I've heard of the issue with other PSUs.yup, i have a strix 3090 smh
are seasonic psus the only psus with this issue?
Personally I think it's worth it yeah. Take a look at this video for example, so you can see for yourself if it's worth the extra money.It looks like it's maybe an extra £80 for a 5600x compared to a 3600 so I probably could stretch to that actually without having to save costs elsewhere. Is the performance jump worth it?
Might be a silly question, but 5600x is better than a Ryzen 7 3700x?
Would I have to add cooling for a 5600x or would the stock cooler generally suffice?
One thing I suggest is that when you build it, don't put the SN550 nvme on the top M.2 that is gen 4.0. Even if the WD Blue is your OS drive, you can install it at the bottom in order to leave the 4.0 port open for a future drive that is 4.0 with your game library and whatnot.Hopefully, it's okay to post PC Part Picker links in here?
I'm looking at potentially building this system providing I can get grab a 3060Ti FE at RRP (they do pop up from time to time). I should also be able to knock some cost off this build by finding deals on the CPU and motherboard in particular.
Any concerns anyone would have with this build or advice on where to improve without impacting cost?
I have a theory that the Seasonic PRIME TX-1600W never came out because it had the same aggressive overcurrent protections that 3090s trigger, so they had to go back to fix that because imagine the embarrassment of launching a $500-$700 1600W PSU that turns itself off when the money-is-no-object enthusiasts that it is aimed to try SLI.[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.8 (END OF LIFE) Last Update: 27-07-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or otherwise not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue ...linustechtips.com
You might want to contact Seasonic customer support and get a check.
At that pricepoint the 11400F is the way to go. You should check prices though as demand has caused the 11400F to go up in price in most regions. With how close the 11400F is to the 5600x I don't think it's worth it to go for a 5600x if your budget is limited. My advice is based on MSRP so again it depends on your regonial prices though.Hopefully, it's okay to post PC Part Picker links in here?
I'm looking at potentially building this system providing I can get grab a 3060Ti FE at RRP (they do pop up from time to time). I should also be able to knock some cost off this build by finding deals on the CPU and motherboard in particular.
Any concerns anyone would have with this build or advice on where to improve without impacting cost?
Thanks for the suggestion on the M2 drive.One thing I suggest is that when you build it, don't put the SN550 nvme on the top M.2 that is gen 4.0. Even if the WD Blue is your OS drive, you can install it at the bottom in order to leave the 4.0 port open for a future drive that is 4.0 with your game library and whatnot.
I agree with the 5600X recommendation, btw, or maybe even going intel with a i5 11400 if budget is tight.
AMD and Intel are moving to DDR5 ram with AM5 and Alderlake respectively.
Would it be unwise to buy a new monitor BEFORE I upgrade my PC? Im looking to get a totally new PC sometime in the next year but kind of want to get things like a monitor, speakers, etc beforehand. Is 4k gaming a thing in the PC world yet? Is it something I should be thinking about? My current rig can really only handle 1080p so Ive been looking at monitors that can handle that just fine but also want to upgrade into something that can do 1080p for as long as I need it to be be good for higher resolutions when I upgrade.
My 7 year old 23in Asus 1080p monitor really sucks and I want something larger and newer but I dont want it to be immediately outdated the moment I upgrade my PC.
Some of these monitors are so expensive too. I was hoping to keep the monitor around 350.00.
Outside of Seasonic Focus/Primes the other notable one is Corsair AX Platinum.yup, i have a strix 3090 smh
are seasonic psus the only psus with this issue?
Probably want to check with customer support, but I imagine a late 2019 purchase would be on the new revision.How can I find out? I bought it from Newegg in the fall of 2019.
omg this is beautiful... how did you pull off the precision acrylic bends, and how many failed attempts were there?Welp, random rig updates: I swapped out my EK monoblock for a normal CPU block from Optimus (dem kings). Temps are current -10C on the minimum, and -17C on the maximum. I'm pretty sure I won't be going with a monoblock again, despite its attractive appearance (to my eyes, anyway). It's possible that my install wasn't perfect, but the low temps were fairly typical and the max temps were higher than I wanted to see but not unusual in so far as I'm aware. In the end, the normal CPU block is easier to install and easier to maintain and perform maintenance on (monoblock removal for cleaning or w/e requires removal of the entire motherboard from the chassis to remove several screws from the back), and looks hella mature.
Current CPU temp range after 5 or 6 hours: min 37C, max 73C, average 46C. This is a 5950X, btw, so quite solid.
Also swapped out my Phanteks Glacier GPU for a matching Optimus GPU block. This thing is hella overengineered, but it's really attractive and performance is demonstrably better than my Phanteks block (but not enough to justify the price on its own). 5lbs for the block alone. 😯
Optimus CPU block - https://optimuspc.com/products/foundation-cpu-block-amd?variant=31139815718995
Optimus GPU block - https://optimuspc.com/products/absolute-gpu-block-strix-3080-3090
Oh and I took the opportunity to redo the piping on the bottom, eliminating quite a bit of hardware by adding a small bump in the tubing that allows for the 90-degree turn into the bottom radiator to be straight enough for the fitting to tighten. This was an issue before that I solved by adding a bunch of hardware that wasn't necessary, but I was too tired to think well about my options. Reduced hardware means a lighter rig that also looks better. I wanted minimum hardware and that's what I was able to achieve.
I've also found myself slowly but surely running fewer and fewer LEDs on. I guess it was one of those things were you can quickly hit an amount that is no longer tasteful. I really like this look with just the mobo lights and fan lights with nothing else. Gives me Stormtrooper/Death Star hallway vibes for some reason.
Last thing to really do is tune the CPU, as my ram has been tuned for a long time. I just couldn't be bothered to understand all of these AMD CPU OC options. I'll get to it...one day. 🙄
Anyway, a few pics (just filled loop). Pardon the quality, my iPhone is aging. Very happy with my bending skills, but I hope to not have to do more for a long time. Cleaning acrylic shavings is zzzzzzzzzz.
tyvm!omg this is beautiful... how did you pull off the precision acrylic bends, and how many failed attempts were there?
will be doing my new loop at the end of September once my EKWB 3090 FE active backplate finally arrives... same case, same mobo, but with the side plate, EK rads, and a vertically mounted GPU with two other cards also on the vertical bracket behind it. Should be wild.
how come Nvidia stopped offering game bundles with their new GPU's?...is it because of the lack of cards?...but wouldn't that be better as they wouldn't have to give out as many free game codes
Yeah I don't understand why people waste their time with PETG honestly, acrylic may be more challenging but it's far from impossible, and if something goes wrong with the loop and it gets hot due to pump failure or something, the tubes won't melt loltyvm!
You know it wasn't too bad, really.
Mostly just a ruler and an idea of what I wanted to do in my mind. I went through 7x 39" (1000mm) tubes. I didn't really have many fails actually. Maybe 4 or 5. More, I just kept being dissatisfied about small imperfections or the angle of a bend so I'd just do it again. Most bends were by hand and fairly easy since most were duplicates. Just had to match.
Took maybe 3 hours, I'd say + the air pressure leak tests.
I'll try to borrow my brother's camera for some better pictures. This old iPhone is cheeks.
You are going to be see a massive upgrade even if the 1080Ti is still a monster. The VRAM is fine, on games that you can reliably get 4K 120 it's not going to be an issue. Other times you are likely going to be relying on DLSS, or run games at sub native resolution which still will look great at TV viewing distance, which cuts down VRAM usage anyway.I have a dilemma.
I've been using 1080ti for several years and it is still going strong. However, last week I've got 65c1 and I just hate not having vrr and not being able to play in 4k/120 (older games ofc). I also want dlss and rtx.
3080 is too expensive here (1400+). However, 3070ti is around 1000e. I could sell my 1080ti for 650, so I would have to add 350 to get 3070ti.
After that, I would probably wait another year or two to do a next major upgrade (4xxx ti probably).
Would this be considered an upgrade as I would be losing 3gb of vram?
I really want to use those additional features.
Do you think it is worth it to build a new PC (basically new motherboard, ram and CPU since I have everything else) without a GPU and buy that once I can find one for a normal price, which will probably be sometime next year earliest? I would use my GTX970 until then.
Hopefully, it's okay to post PC Part Picker links in here?
I'm looking at potentially building this system providing I can get grab a 3060Ti FE at RRP (they do pop up from time to time). I should also be able to knock some cost off this build by finding deals on the CPU and motherboard in particular.
Any concerns anyone would have with this build or advice on where to improve without impacting cost?
It looks like it's maybe an extra £80 for a 5600x compared to a 3600 so I probably could stretch to that actually without having to save costs elsewhere. Is the performance jump worth it?
I have a dilemma.
I've been using 1080ti for several years and it is still going strong. However, last week I've got 65c1 and I just hate not having vrr and not being able to play in 4k/120 (older games ofc). I also want dlss and rtx.
3080 is too expensive here (1400+). However, 3070ti is around 1000e. I could sell my 1080ti for 650, so I would have to add 350 to get 3070ti.
After that, I would probably wait another year or two to do a next major upgrade (4xxx ti probably).
Would this be considered an upgrade as I would be losing 3gb of vram?
I really want to use those additional features.
Would it be unwise to buy a new monitor BEFORE I upgrade my PC? Im looking to get a totally new PC sometime in the next year but kind of want to get things like a monitor, speakers, etc beforehand. Is 4k gaming a thing in the PC world yet? Is it something I should be thinking about?
Thanks. I thought about it again and I think will just not upgrade anything until I can get a GPU for a normal price. Whenever that may be.if you have something to use right now, I'd say wait a little longer if possible, we're gonna get Alder Lake cpus with DDR5 and PCIe gen 5 support soon.
Would this be considered an upgrade as I would be losing 3gb of vram?
I really want to use those additional features.
I have a dilemma.
I've been using 1080ti for several years and it is still going strong. However, last week I've got 65c1 and I just hate not having vrr and not being able to play in 4k/120 (older games ofc). I also want dlss and rtx.
3080 is too expensive here (1400+). However, 3070ti is around 1000e. I could sell my 1080ti for 650, so I would have to add 350 to get 3070ti.
After that, I would probably wait another year or two to do a next major upgrade (4xxx ti probably).
Would this be considered an upgrade as I would be losing 3gb of vram?
I really want to use those additional features.
1080Ti to 3070 is quite close to 50% in many games due to architecture advancements, and on top of that you have DLSS to push things even further. For me going from a 1080 is nearly doubling performance in many games.I went from a 1080Ti to a 3070 (non-Ti) and the upgrade was still massive. Back in 2018, the jump from 1080Ti to 2080Ti wasn't big, but now there's at leas 30% performance gains, and that is the difference between a locked 60 at 4K (or higher) and several dips.
Resident Evil 2 Remake at 4K for example, I needed to drop several settings to get a locked 60 at native 2160p. With the 3070 I just needed to drop volumetrics from Max to High and that's it. That's all the tweaking I needed for a locked 60 (my 4K TV is 60Hz so I don't push further even if I could).
i just want to get my hands on a 3070 FE. My jump would be from a 980Ti to a 3070, so I'm quite sure I'd notice a difference. Alas *waves hand across a landscape bereft of opportunity*1080Ti to 3070 is quite close to 50% in many games due to architecture advancements, and on top of that you have DLSS to push things even further. For me going from a 1080 is nearly doubling performance in many games.
Anyone else have a weird mental block towards curved monitors? I always felt they were gimmicky and would have warped picture clarity but now there are more curved monitors than not so it's hard to find an upgrade for my monitor situation without giving up and getting a curved boi. Someone talk me out of my Luddite aversion to these things.
Just a quick question.
My uncle's PC freezes when he restarts it but when shutting it down & turning it back on its fine, Any idea what the issue could be?
CPU health and temps are fine.
GPU is running fine after stress testing it and cleaning it.
SSDs haven't shown any issues.
I have a feeling its the RAM but im not sure.
Anyone else have a weird mental block towards curved monitors? I always felt they were gimmicky and would have warped picture clarity but now there are more curved monitors than not so it's hard to find an upgrade for my monitor situation without giving up and getting a curved boi. Someone talk me out of my Luddite aversion to these things.
My uncle's PC freezes when he restarts it but when shutting it down & turning it back on its fine, Any idea what the issue could be?
I assuming this is Windows 10? I don't know the cause but it might help your troubleshooting to know that with Windows 10 shutting down and turning back on is basically just hibernating the machine. It doesn't go through the full shutdown and boot process. This is one reason boot times are so quick. Whereas a restart causes Windows to completely shut down and then reload from scratch. So whatever problem your uncle is having probably has to do with starting Windows from scratch.
Welp, random rig updates: I swapped out my EK monoblock for a normal CPU block from Optimus (dem kings). Temps are current -10C on the minimum, and -17C on the maximum. I'm pretty sure I won't be going with a monoblock again, despite its attractive appearance (to my eyes, anyway). It's possible that my install wasn't perfect, but the low temps were fairly typical and the max temps were higher than I wanted to see but not unusual in so far as I'm aware. In the end, the normal CPU block is easier to install and easier to maintain and perform maintenance on (monoblock removal for cleaning or w/e requires removal of the entire motherboard from the chassis to remove several screws from the back), and looks hella mature.
Current CPU temp range after 5 or 6 hours: min 37C, max 73C, average 46C. This is a 5950X, btw, so quite solid.
Also swapped out my Phanteks Glacier GPU for a matching Optimus GPU block. This thing is hella overengineered, but it's really attractive and performance is demonstrably better than my Phanteks block (but not enough to justify the price on its own). 5lbs for the block alone. 😯
Optimus CPU block - https://optimuspc.com/products/foundation-cpu-block-amd?variant=31139815718995
Optimus GPU block - https://optimuspc.com/products/absolute-gpu-block-strix-3080-3090
Oh and I took the opportunity to redo the piping on the bottom, eliminating quite a bit of hardware by adding a small bump in the tubing that allows for the 90-degree turn into the bottom radiator to be straight enough for the fitting to tighten. This was an issue before that I solved by adding a bunch of hardware that wasn't necessary, but I was too tired to think well about my options. Reduced hardware means a lighter rig that also looks better. I wanted minimum hardware and that's what I was able to achieve.
I've also found myself slowly but surely running fewer and fewer LEDs on. I guess it was one of those things were you can quickly hit an amount that is no longer tasteful. I really like this look with just the mobo lights and fan lights with nothing else. Gives me Stormtrooper/Death Star hallway vibes for some reason.
Last thing to really do is tune the CPU, as my ram has been tuned for a long time. I just couldn't be bothered to understand all of these AMD CPU OC options. I'll get to it...one day. 🙄
Anyway, a few pics (just filled loop). Pardon the quality, my iPhone is aging. Very happy with my bending skills, but I hope to not have to do more for a long time. Cleaning acrylic shavings is zzzzzzzzzz.
My friend wants a small form factor PC for mostly indie games but can run AAA games on mid settings. What's the things to buy here? The smaller the better and budget under $1200.