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Oct 25, 2017
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When I search PSUs these days, it's Corsair, EVGA and SeaSonic, with potential opening for be quiet! (not that prevalent here in the states) or Antec (some are built by seasonic), depending on the model.

There are several PSU tier lists out there, like this one. Not a hard and fast rule, but can be used as a general guideline. Don't have to go Tier 1, but try to avoid the bottom tiers.

Nice.

Funnily enough the PSU that died was an Antec BP550 and thinking about it some more that thing definitely served its time.

Thank you
 
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spootime

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,431
Will look into that! Did you mean "before buying a 2080" though?

Is $550 a good price for a 1080ti?

I mean that the 1080ti and 2080 have equal performance, so unless you really want the extra RTX features on the 2080 (which are kind of a meme) then you want to see if you can buy a used 1080ti before you buy a 2080.

I think ~500 is fair for a founders edition 1080ti and ~550 is fair for a good 3rd party one


edit: yes just saw my typo, I mean't before you buy a 2080 lol
 

Earthstrike

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,232
Hey guys. Just got my new parts. All I am wondering about now is windows license transfer. I'm going to be on the same OS, but need a new key. If I just plug my hard drives into the new mobo/cpu setup and load into windows, will I just be prompted to enter the new key?

Also, how can I carry over my office. I orginally got it as part of the home use program.
 

Skel1ingt0n

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,740
Well, after years of building for friends and myself, I've flipped to a pre-built.

Last pre-built I had was an Alienware Aurora in like... 2008? Only cause I got a HELL of a deal on it - like $2,000 worth of components for less than a grand.

Anyway, my custom build from 2013 is getting real long in the tooth: Fully EKWB'd Little Devil PC-V7 with a 3820 (unable to overclock anymore), a 1080 (upgraded from the original Titan), 16GB of 2133 RAM, SATA3 SSD, and a coil-whining PSU.

Just picked up the Alienware Area 51M laptop. I wanted a new form factor; something different. Looked at the Loque Ghost S1 a bit, a couple In Win cases, but nothing felt different enough. This thing looks balls to the wall insane and figured why not? Waited for some early impressions, which are (very suprisingly) pretty solid - seems to run quiet and cool, and benchmarks are as good as we could hope. Plus, confirmed we'll get a higher PDW on the GPU in the near future.

Desktop 9900K
Full 2080
2x 1TB 970 Evo Plus in RAID0
4TB 2.5" HDD
64GB 2666 RAM
Getting it with thermal grizzly and fujipoly

Can't wait... too bad I'll have to with an End of March anticipated delivery :(
 

Zumbug

Member
Oct 28, 2017
21
Well, after years of building for friends and myself, I've flipped to a pre-built.

Last pre-built I had was an Alienware Aurora in like... 2008? Only cause I got a HELL of a deal on it - like $2,000 worth of components for less than a grand.

Anyway, my custom build from 2013 is getting real long in the tooth: Fully EKWB'd Little Devil PC-V7 with a 3820 (unable to overclock anymore), a 1080 (upgraded from the original Titan), 16GB of 2133 RAM, SATA3 SSD, and a coil-whining PSU.

Just picked up the Alienware Area 51M laptop. I wanted a new form factor; something different. Looked at the Loque Ghost S1 a bit, a couple In Win cases, but nothing felt different enough. This thing looks balls to the wall insane and figured why not? Waited for some early impressions, which are (very suprisingly) pretty solid - seems to run quiet and cool, and benchmarks are as good as we could hope. Plus, confirmed we'll get a higher PDW on the GPU in the near future.

Desktop 9900K
Full 2080
2x 1TB 970 Evo Plus in RAID0
4TB 2.5" HDD
64GB 2666 RAM
Getting it with thermal grizzly and fujipoly

Can't wait... too bad I'll have to with an End of March anticipated delivery :(

Out of interest, why 64GB or ram? You could half that (or quarter it) and be completely fine for all gaming workloads. Although it looks like money isn't an issue :)

32GB of faster ram will do you better IMO.
 

Skel1ingt0n

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,740
Out of interest, why 64GB or ram? You could half that (or quarter it) and be completely fine for all gaming workloads. Although it looks like money isn't an issue :)

32GB of faster ram will do you better IMO.

Unfortunately, the RAM speed seems BIOS-limited to 2400 right now; but ships with 2666 and will supposedly be "unlocked" in the near future. We shall see.

Totally agreed - I'd rather be at 3000+ and would happily pay for it. As for quantity, I have 16GB and definitely do run into the upper limits of that quite a bit. Not games, but lightroom photos (I stitch lunar and astro shots that can easily approach 200mp equiv), and work (Azure admin stuff, VMs, Teams, etc). I could almost certainly get by with 32GB, but the $200 to bump up to 64GB (I'm buying and installing myself) seems like a silly place to compromise considering everything else.
 

stoke1863

Member
Oct 29, 2017
383
Anyone dealt with Powercolor RMA? My Vega 64 has been gone 27 days so far :( it sucks

Anyone waiting for Ryzen 3 to finally upgrade there 4690k like me? I need to get away from this old DDR3 platform.

I'll probably get the 3600 rather than a Ryzen 7 as I'll be gaming only.
 

Gabbo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,567
So, when I can finally afford to do so, I've put together a couple part list tos replace my i5-3570/970/16GB ddr3
(https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DhwVzY/by_merchant/)

CPU | [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox) | $228.00 @ Powertop
CPU Cooler | [Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (Black) 62.32 CFM CPU Cooler](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JgCrxr/enermax-ets-t50-axe-black-623-cfm-cpu-cooler-ets-t50a-bvt) | $79.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard | [MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk) | $149.75 @ Vuugo
Memory | [G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...6gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f43000c16d16gisb) | $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | [Western Digital - Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/GTCD4D/western-digital-blue-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0a) | $149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card | [Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sF648d/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-8gb-nitro-video-card-11265-01) | $333.00 @ Vuugo
Case | [Corsair - 780T ATX Full Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/vj4NnQ/corsair-case-cc9011059ww) | $189.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply | [SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx) | $91.99 @ PC-Canada
Operating System | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $171.50 @ Vuugo
| **Total** | **$1514.20**


and this

(https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/g4VYGG/by_merchant/)
CPU| [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox) | $228.00 @ Powertop
CPU Coole | [Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/shNypg/noctua-nh-d15-se-am4-1402-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-d15-se-am4) | $99.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Motherboard | [Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...g-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming) | $168.99 @ Powertop
Memory | [G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...6gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f43000c16d16gisb) | $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | [Western Digital - Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/GTCD4D/western-digital-blue-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0a) | $149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card | [ASRock - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...m-gaming-d-video-card-pg-d-radeon-rx580-8g-oc) | $280.44 @ Vuugo
Case | [be quiet! - DARK BASE PRO 900 | BLACK rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...pro-900-black-rev-2-atx-full-tower-case-bgw15) | $372.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Power Supply | [EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1) | $99.99 @ Canada Computers
Operating System | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $171.50 @ Vuugo
| **Total** | **$1691.75**

Which do you guys think would last me longer? I'm not one for bleeding edge graphics, so I can always upgrade gpu over time
 

stoke1863

Member
Oct 29, 2017
383
So, when I can finally afford to do so, I've put together a couple part list tos replace my i5-3570/970/16GB ddr3
(https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DhwVzY/by_merchant/)

CPU | [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox) | $228.00 @ Powertop
CPU Cooler | [Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (Black) 62.32 CFM CPU Cooler](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JgCrxr/enermax-ets-t50-axe-black-623-cfm-cpu-cooler-ets-t50a-bvt) | $79.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard | [MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk) | $149.75 @ Vuugo
Memory | [G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...6gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f43000c16d16gisb) | $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | [Western Digital - Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/GTCD4D/western-digital-blue-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0a) | $149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card | [Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sF648d/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-8gb-nitro-video-card-11265-01) | $333.00 @ Vuugo
Case | [Corsair - 780T ATX Full Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/vj4NnQ/corsair-case-cc9011059ww) | $189.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply | [SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx) | $91.99 @ PC-Canada
Operating System | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $171.50 @ Vuugo
| **Total** | **$1514.20**


and this

(https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/g4VYGG/by_merchant/)
CPU| [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox) | $228.00 @ Powertop
CPU Coole | [Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/shNypg/noctua-nh-d15-se-am4-1402-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-d15-se-am4) | $99.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Motherboard | [Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...g-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming) | $168.99 @ Powertop
Memory | [G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...6gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f43000c16d16gisb) | $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | [Western Digital - Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/GTCD4D/western-digital-blue-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0a) | $149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card | [ASRock - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...m-gaming-d-video-card-pg-d-radeon-rx580-8g-oc) | $280.44 @ Vuugo
Case | [be quiet! - DARK BASE PRO 900 | BLACK rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...pro-900-black-rev-2-atx-full-tower-case-bgw15) | $372.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Power Supply | [EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1) | $99.99 @ Canada Computers
Operating System | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $171.50 @ Vuugo
| **Total** | **$1691.75**

Which do you guys think would last me longer? I'm not one for bleeding edge graphics, so I can always upgrade gpu over time

I would take the 100 your spending on a cooler and add it to your graphics card spending money,

Stock cooler on 2600 isn't absolutely awful (2600x is better ) you can still overclock with stock cooler, or at least get something cheaper as 100 on a cooler is a bit OTT for a 2600.

Also Ryzen 3 may be out I'm July, I'm waiting until then.

EDIT: thought it was US dollars, sorry, but still think that cooler is overkill for a 2600
 

Legjend

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16
Hi all,

It's been a couple years and I'd like to do a combination of reusing what I have (1070, SSD, maybe PSU?) and come up with an ITX build that will fit in my entertainment center. Are there any good builds out to follow? Didn't see any in the OP.

Thanks in advance!
 

Jijidasu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
75
Japan
Hi guys.

An update on my build:
(Original post here: Link)
It's all put together, but I have a couple of questions and troubleshooting. I may have solved some by consulting texts on the way to work but clarification would be very helpful.

1. I'm using an MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio - What is the optimum way to connect PCI-e cables to this big boy? I've seen some arguments (here for example) that it is preferable to use 3 PCI-e cables to power each of the available ports on the GPU. Right now, I am using only 2 (it looks messy..).

(I'm using a Corsair RM850x as recommended here in this thread. It has an extra PCI-e cable available, but I'm not sure how viable it is. Any input would be welcome.)

2. I installed an M.2 drive into my motherboard (HERO MAXIMUS XI) and I understand that doing so disables one SATA port if the M.2 drive itself runs in SATA. I noticed if I changed the settings in BIOS for it to run in PCI-e that it completely disabled my remaining SSD's and would boot to BIOS only. I have since read that SATA ports 5 and 6 are disabled when running in PCI-e in 4x. As you might expect this is where my two SSD's are plugged in. In addition, does running the M.2 in PCI-e mean that the port disabled when running in SATA is enabled again? (I cannot check this in person yet as I'm at work)

3. Corsair H150i PRO cooling - I can hear what sounds like running water when I turn on my PC. What is this? I don't remember ever hearing this on my old Corsair AIO cooling setup. Should I be worried?

4. Can I put chassis fan plugs into any of the available plugs on the motherboard so long as the shape is correct? I read the motherboard manual that the difference is only voltage and performance/speed.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
 

TrAcEr_x90

Member
Oct 27, 2017
831
Well with my tax return coming soon I figured it would finally be time to go for a new build. I have not built a new computer in about 5 years. I've been going through alot of youtube pc build channels trying to research and catch up what I've missed. I am trying to build a workstation first( for 3D and Motion graphics). My work computer is a i-9 BOXX system with a Quadro P400 and 64gigs of ram. I'd like to make my own computer at home that comes close to being as powerful. Does anyone here have experience with the AMD threadripper? Or Ryzen? I am just not sure if I should feel comfortable going for a AMD build when I would rather pay extra for reliability and programs utilizing all the cores.. I was also thinking of just getting a RTX 2080.
 

Zeno

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,150
Maybe something like this? With the caveat that we'll probably be finding out about the Ryzen 3000 series within your timeframe (though may not actually be out by then). Started with one of the PCPP build guides and adjusted to fit monitor/keyboard/mouse/OS in budget.

EDIT - And if I was buying today, there's a deal on a 2070 for $445 after rebate.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.02 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($134.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - AG241QX 23.8" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($309.99 @ Walmart)
Keyboard: Corsair - K68 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair - Sabre RGB Wired Optical Mouse ($44.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1687.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-08 21:50 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($348.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: be quiet! - Pure Base 600 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - MasterKeys Pro L Wired Standard Keyboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Mionix - NAOS 7000 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Core Headset ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1668.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-08 22:28 EST-0500


My suggestion if you were to build now, you said you will build in a few months when Ryzen 3000 series launches in the summer.
This is more or less an estimate of what you can get.

1. Probably wont get this parts if you wait for Ryzen 3000, but with the difference only being around $10 it's not worth it to buy the standard 2600.
2. This is one of the best coolers you can get on the market with it being one of the quitest coolers out there. The price-per-performance here is amazing as this cooler competes with $80 rivals. Another alternative is the Scythe Mugen.
3. Went with a cheaper MoBo due to prices.
4. RAM is ram, heatspreaders are more for aesthetics and don't have any performance benefits, the performance is just the same.
5. With storage I went with a 256 NVMe SSD and a 2TB HDD, if you are planning to use your PC for gaming this IMO is the ideal setup as it allows you to have huge storage as games are getting bigger and bigger and AAA games more so. I always recommend at least 2TB.
6. IMO I think the 2060 is a great card, from the benchmarks I've seen it's around 10-15 FPS on average behind from the 2070. I think the cost to performance is great since the 2060 can be found around $350~ while the 2070 can be found for around 480~ but this is entirely on what you want.
7. Peripherals. So you need an OS, the monitor I chose because it's a VA 144hz 1440p display which is a nice mix between IPS and TN tech. I didn't have budget for both a speaker and headset so I went with a headset that is an incredibly value and I personally enjoy a lot. I love the Mionix Naos 7000 for it's ergonomic shape, it also has a great sensor. And the keyboard is just MX browns, you might not like it but most PC gamers do. I would look into the mouse and keyboard to make sure you'll enjoy them
8. I forgot to talk about the case, currently the best silent case you can get.

Thanks! Looked at parts from both lists and came up with this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FLHhpG

I'm guessing the following shouldn't be much reason for concern?
  • The motherboard M.2 slot #2 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.
I'd say the main thing I'm unsure of partwise is if the RTX 2070 is worth another $150-200 over an RTX 2060....or if I shouldn't just spend a bit more to get the RTX 2080.
 
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Mozendo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,231
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Thanks! Looked at parts from both lists and came up with this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FLHhpG

I'm guessing the following shouldn't be much reason for concern?

I'd say the main thing I'm unsure of partwise is if the RTX 2070 is worth another $150-200 over an RTX 2060....or if I shouldn't just spend a bit more to get the RTX 2080.
Yeah you're good, it just means you'll have to use the HDD on slot 3 on the sata.
And it looks great! As mentioned in my post make sure you have a good headphone/headset, makes a huge difference.
As for the graphics card, yeah that's a complicated decision, just look at what games you'll mostly be playing and if the difference is substantial to you.
 

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Thanks! Looked at parts from both lists and came up with this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FLHhpG

I'm guessing the following shouldn't be much reason for concern?

I'd say the main thing I'm unsure of partwise is if the RTX 2070 is worth another $150-200 over an RTX 2060....or if I shouldn't just spend a bit more to get the RTX 2080.

I'd say if you can find an A chip variation (binned) 2070 for around $500, go for it. The $100-150 over a 2060 is more worth it for the vram upgrade and 15-20% boost than just the 15-20% and slightly better Rtx cores you get for spending another $300 on a 2080 over a 2070. Or pretty much 2x+ as much as a 2060.

Factory OC 2070 A chips are actually very close to 1080 tis and 2080s. People don't really seem to realize.

relative-performance_2560-1440.png
 
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eXistor

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,303
So I think this is the config I'm going with. I decided to just keep the power supply as the lower ones were only a few bucks cheaper.

1 x Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64bit software € 109,-
1 x GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 WINDFORCE OC 6G € 399,-
1 x Kingston A400, 120 GB SSD € 21,99
1 x Seagate BarraCuda, 2 TB € 58,90
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 tower-behuizing € 84,90
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 3,2 GHz (4,1 GHz Turbo Boost) socket AM4 processor € 299,-
1 x MSI B450M PRO-M2, socket AM4 moederbord€ 75,-
1 x Corsair TX750M, 750 Watt voeding€ 107,90
1 x Corsair 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit werkgeheugen € 119,90

No major crapups here? Will this do for the forseeable future for someone who doesn't play that many PC games, but when he does he wants to do it at least decently?
 

Andi

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,316
So I recently bought a new gaming PC and my gaming Laptop has been collecting dust.
I am thinking of sellingg it of but I am curious on what a fair price would be.
Maybe someone here can make a suggestion?

Specs

MSI GT72 2QE Dominator Pro, bought in October of 2015

Intel® Core™ i7 (5. Generation) 5700HQ Prozessor 4x 2.70 GHzTurboBoost3.50 GHzCache6 MBIntel® Hyper-Threading Technologie
Display43,9 cm (17,3")1920 x 1080 Pixel (Full HD)
matte Display, Wide-View-Tech.G-Sync
GeForce GTX 980M, 8GB GDDR5
RAM16 GB DDR3L SDRAM, PC3 12800 (1600 MHz)
SSD/HDDSuper RAID:256 GB SSD (2x 128 GB M.2 RAID) + 1 TB (SATA) 7.200rpmS-ATA6.0GB/sOptical Drive
BD Writer / DVD Super Multi
Card Reader3in1 (SD/SDHC/SDXC
)Bluetooth4.0
LAN
Killer DoubleShot Pro Gb LAN
W-Wlan Killer DoubleShot Pro 11ac
Keyboard Full-color backlight SteelSeries keyboard
USB Portsx6


Thank you!
 

I Don't Like

Member
Dec 11, 2017
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I'm really stupid with computers, but this is roughly the one I was looking at getting. Is there any obvious improvements or anything I could make?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T9jcKB

While it's technically ok you might want to go up to a 600w PSU. The cost difference is nothing and it gives you some headroom in case you add/upgrade.

Well with my tax return coming soon I figured it would finally be time to go for a new build. I have not built a new computer in about 5 years. I've been going through alot of youtube pc build channels trying to research and catch up what I've missed. I am trying to build a workstation first( for 3D and Motion graphics). My work computer is a i-9 BOXX system with a Quadro P400 and 64gigs of ram. I'd like to make my own computer at home that comes close to being as powerful. Does anyone here have experience with the AMD threadripper? Or Ryzen? I am just not sure if I should feel comfortable going for a AMD build when I would rather pay extra for reliability and programs utilizing all the cores.. I was also thinking of just getting a RTX 2080.

Not sure why Threadripper would be an issue - by all accounts it's an excellent chip. That with a 2080 or 2080Ti would be a beast.

Hi all,

It's been a couple years and I'd like to do a combination of reusing what I have (1070, SSD, maybe PSU?) and come up with an ITX build that will fit in my entertainment center. Are there any good builds out to follow? Didn't see any in the OP.

Thanks in advance!

If you're reusing all that just grab a decent ITX mobo (ASUS has good options and I'm partial to their boards), maybe like an 8600/8700 (or 8600k/8700k if you want to overclock) and a case. Since there are so many cases and it's all based on your aesthetic preference I don't have any to recommend, just browse and pick something.

I managed to get through all the other issues I had with the new build, but my PC is now "beeping" occasionally when alt-tabbing.
This video isn't mine, but the problem is exactly the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbmgX8DOOgE

Anyone have an idea?

Lol da fuq? I've never seen that. I guess I would just open Task Manager and start closing processes one-by-one to see if you can figure out what it is. I wonder if it's some kind of accessibility feature that accidentally got turned on?

So I think this is the config I'm going with. I decided to just keep the power supply as the lower ones were only a few bucks cheaper.

1 x Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64bit software € 109,-
1 x GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 WINDFORCE OC 6G € 399,-
1 x Kingston A400, 120 GB SSD € 21,99
1 x Seagate BarraCuda, 2 TB € 58,90
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 tower-behuizing € 84,90
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 3,2 GHz (4,1 GHz Turbo Boost) socket AM4 processor € 299,-
1 x MSI B450M PRO-M2, socket AM4 moederbord€ 75,-
1 x Corsair TX750M, 750 Watt voeding€ 107,90
1 x Corsair 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit werkgeheugen € 119,90

No major crapups here? Will this do for the forseeable future for someone who doesn't play that many PC games, but when he does he wants to do it at least decently?

Yeah you'll be good.
 

DSP

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Oct 25, 2017
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The stock cooler is fine but so is your mother board. I'd spend that 100CAD on a better monitor because VG248QE is ancient and really hideous looking. Unless all you're playing is FPS, you can do better.
 

Crawl

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Oct 25, 2017
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so what is the next intel processor line to come out? And do I have to wait till 2020 for 10nm intel desktop chips?
 

Bii

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm really stupid with computers, but this is roughly the one I was looking at getting. Is there any obvious improvements or anything I could make?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T9jcKB

Are you deadset on having a 2TB SSD as the boot drive? It's a bit excessive and I would scale it back to the 500GB version so you would save $200+. Also, the 4TB Seagate drive is only 5400rpm, the 3TB version is 7200rpm and would serve you better if you plan on playing games off of it. But if you're using the HDD to just store files/media, then the drive you selected should be okay. Lastly, you should probably select RAM with speeds of at least 3000. It would only be a $10-$20 difference on top.
 

Wraith

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Jun 28, 2018
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I'm going with this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dTHzcY

Any suggestions? A friend says I should ditch the noctua since the cpu comes with its own fan and put the money towards a better mb. Yay or nay?
You probably want the AM4 version of the NH-D15. I don't know maybe the standard one is shipping with an AM4 bracket by now, but since the AM4 version is the same price, might as well get that one.

You could always try the stock cooler and see if it's cool/quiet enough for you, then decide if you want an aftermarket cooler.

As for motherboards, I usually try to find one that has the features I want and mostly good user reviews (there will always be a few DOAs reported). And checking motherboard tier lists (if available) to make sure I'm not getting something really low tier.

There are newer 1080p144 monitors out there you might consider. I'm not going to badmouth the VG248QE, I still use it myself, but it's getting on in years. You can at least find something with FreeSync now, even for less money. (Nvidia is starting to support FreeSync now, at least on some monitors.)
 

ZoSo006

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Oct 25, 2017
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Winnipeg
So with the release looking imminent and it apparently being on par with a 1070 but for a much chaise price, I'm likely looking to get a 1660 ti for my new pc after I sell the HP one I stupidly purchased for BF but I'm still undecided for a CPU.

For the price of the build, I'm looking at $1300-$1400 (cad) max so I'm looking at either a i5-8400 or a rizen 5 2600 unless I get lucky and find something better in a sale.

Considering my goal is for 1080p or maybe 1440p with 60fps max with settings on ultra high, which cpu would be the better to go with assuming I can only choose between those two?
 

CrusoeCMYK

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Oct 25, 2017
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You probably want the AM4 version of the NH-D15. I don't know maybe the standard one is shipping with an AM4 bracket by now, but since the AM4 version is the same price, might as well get that one.

You could always try the stock cooler and see if it's cool/quiet enough for you, then decide if you want an aftermarket cooler.

As for motherboards, I usually try to find one that has the features I want and mostly good user reviews (there will always be a few DOAs reported). And checking motherboard tier lists (if available) to make sure I'm not getting something really low tier.

There are newer 1080p144 monitors out there you might consider. I'm not going to badmouth the VG248QE, I still use it myself, but it's getting on in years. You can at least find something with FreeSync now, even for less money. (Nvidia is starting to support FreeSync now, at least on some monitors.)

Thanks for pointing out the cooler. I was previously considering an Intel chipset and forgot to change that component. I'm likely going to OC so maybe I'll stick with having a cooler despite my friend's advice.
If you could recommend any monitor within the same price range that's freesync/gsync compatible I'll consider it. I'm still using a 1080p60hz so anything will seem like a noticeable jump at this point 😂
 
Aug 2, 2018
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Got my new PC up and running but I have a question. I have a rx580 hooked up through DisplayPort to a 24 inch monitor on my desk to play normal games but I have a projector I would like to use for my Racing rig setup. Is there a way I can hook the projector up to the pc through hdmi and have a totally different screen setup/ profile that I can switch to when I want to play racing games?

That way it wouldnt tax the graphics card performance as if there were two screens at once being displayed.

Want to have both hooked up at the same time & be able to switch between the two on the fly if possible
 

selfnoise

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Oct 25, 2017
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So with the release looking imminent and it apparently being on par with a 1070 but for a much chaise price, I'm likely looking to get a 1660 ti for my new pc after I sell the HP one I stupidly purchased for BF but I'm still undecided for a CPU.

For the price of the build, I'm looking at $1300-$1400 (cad) max so I'm looking at either a i5-8400 or a rizen 5 2600 unless I get lucky and find something better in a sale.

Considering my goal is for 1080p or maybe 1440p with 60fps max with settings on ultra high, which cpu would be the better to go with assuming I can only choose between those two?

If the performance you need is entirely for games the 8400 generally benches better than the 2600 (or the 2700 for that matter). The Ryzens definitely start looking a lot better if you need to stream while gaming, or edit video, etc.
 

ZoSo006

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Oct 25, 2017
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If the performance you need is entirely for games the 8400 generally benches better than the 2600 (or the 2700 for that matter). The Ryzens definitely start looking a lot better if you need to stream while gaming, or edit video, etc.
As they'll be no streaming or video editing for me, I'll focus on finding the 8400 then.

Thanks
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Miami, FL
I have all parts for my build except the case + CPU cooler, all of which are coming on Friday. In theory. Because there's a crazy weather system going across the central-eastern US and its affecting everyone's delivery times. :(
 

Wraith

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Jun 28, 2018
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Thanks for pointing out the cooler. I was previously considering an Intel chipset and forgot to change that component. I'm likely going to OC so maybe I'll stick with having a cooler despite my friend's advice.
If you could recommend any monitor within the same price range that's freesync/gsync compatible I'll consider it. I'm still using a 1080p60hz so anything will seem like a noticeable jump at this point 😂
There are a bunch out there, a couple that look interesting:

Viewsonic XG2402 - rtings says:
The ViewSonic XG2402 is better than the ASUS VG248QE. Overall, the two are very similar, with very similar performance under most uses. The XG2402 supports AMD FreeSync, making it a better choice for gaming. The XG2402 also has better color volume.
MSI Optix MAG24C - Tom's Hardware says:
Aside from the need for calibration, there isn't much to dislike about the MSI MAG24C. It delivers fantastic gaming performance thanks to an honest 144Hz refresh rate and keeps the price low by including FreeSync adaptive refresh. A few small adjustments take color accuracy to a good level and, coupled with excellent contrast, makes for one of the best pictures we've seen from any gaming monitor.
And the MAG241C, which seems to be a newer revision, a little cheaper but lacks height/swivel adjustment.
 

Keikaku

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Oct 27, 2017
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So I think this is the config I'm going with. I decided to just keep the power supply as the lower ones were only a few bucks cheaper.

1 x Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64bit software € 109,-
1 x GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 WINDFORCE OC 6G € 399,-
1 x Kingston A400, 120 GB SSD € 21,99
1 x Seagate BarraCuda, 2 TB € 58,90
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 550 tower-behuizing € 84,90
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 3,2 GHz (4,1 GHz Turbo Boost) socket AM4 processor € 299,-
1 x MSI B450M PRO-M2, socket AM4 moederbord€ 75,-
1 x Corsair TX750M, 750 Watt voeding€ 107,90
1 x Corsair 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit werkgeheugen € 119,90

No major crapups here? Will this do for the forseeable future for someone who doesn't play that many PC games, but when he does he wants to do it at least decently?
I would change the boxed windows for a cheap key from resellers and swap to GTX 2070. Also swapping the 2700 to a 2600 would get you GTX 2080.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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For work reasons, I bought this & it arrived today.

Asus WS PRO Z390 Intel LGA 1151 ATX motherboard with AI Overclocking, quad-GPU support, DDR4 4266 MHz, Dual M.2, Intel Optane memory ready, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C and front-panel connectors

https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/WS-Z390-PRO/

500$cad sure does buy a nice motherboard.
Really nice board. Probably what I would be tempted to go with for z390. I always liked the the Asus WS line.
 

Wraith

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newmoneytrash

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Are you deadset on having a 2TB SSD as the boot drive? It's a bit excessive and I would scale it back to the 500GB version so you would save $200+. Also, the 4TB Seagate drive is only 5400rpm, the 3TB version is 7200rpm and would serve you better if you plan on playing games off of it. But if you're using the HDD to just store files/media, then the drive you selected should be okay. Lastly, you should probably select RAM with speeds of at least 3000. It would only be a $10-$20 difference on top.
No, I bumped those down! I changed to a 500gb SSD and 2TB HDD

But I will look at changing the RAM, thank you!
 

Proc

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm having a hard time deciding between the i5 9600k vs 9700k for gaming. I just grabbed a 2080. I just want consistent 60fps at 1440p. Sometimes I'll bring the pc downstairs to my 4k oled.

In Canada the i5 is $349 and the i7 is $579. I grabbed the i5 tonight but I'm waiting for my ram and cooler to arrive so I have some time to change my mind.

Thoughts? I'm coming from an i5 4670k.
 

Bii

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Oct 25, 2017
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No, I bumped those down! I changed to a 500gb SSD and 2TB HDD

But I will look at changing the RAM, thank you!

I overlooked your motherboard thinking it was a Z370, when it's actually an H370. That motherboard you picked is compatible with RAM at speeds of 2133, 2400 or 2666. So you could go with 2666 and see if the pricing is not too far off from 2133, which it shouldn't be.
 
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