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The Outer Worlds, Control, Dauntless, SpellBreak, The Cycle, Ancestors & More Coming As Timed Exclusives To Epic Games Store; TOW also on MS Store
- Thread starter SweetNicole
- Start date
No.
The point is people like the Steam client because it has further advanced the way people game on PC...the hell you can now play PC games on a couch as if you were playing a console. Also, it's not just people want a game only on the Steam service...devs can put their game on any storefront and/or service they want as many times. People want choices...choices is what brought piracy down in the PC gaming landscape. However, Epic is throwing bags of money on games to "stall" their game coming to other services or to be frank, Steam, so they can have it on the Epic store. It's robbing people of choosing where they can play.
Honestly would have gotten outer world's on the ms store anyways for those sweet Xbox achievements lol
My biggest issue with Epic is them moneyhatting third party games that locks out other stores (like Steam), so until that is fixed, nope.
I'm a developer, but I don't pretend that my personal income should change the perspective of my customers.
I don't have a problem with developers making whatever decision they want.
I have a huge problem when they pretend they are doing it for their customers (or act confused as to why anyone would care).
And it's a consumer facing business at the end of the day, that's the market they're in.
I don't like their shit, and plenty others don't. We're perfectly entitled to not buy things on this basis.
For me it's the fact that I end up having to pay more for these fucking games because of the Epic store, I had to cave and get The Division 2 on GMG for the discount hours before the official launch date, otherwise I would have had to pay full price.
Also the fact that Epic is doing shit like mining Steam friend info and play history and the fact that their accounts keep getting easily hacked. I wouldn't be surprised if we're months away from seeing articles saying "millions of Epic accounts hacked" but sure, like everyone likes to say in their hot takes, "it's just another launcher tho."
Edit: From just a couple of months ago.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vba5nb/fornite-login-hack-epic-games-website
They've come out very openly in opposition to some of those things, so in a year the chart may look a little more balanced, but I doubt it'll be "all those things." I doubt, for instance, they'll ever institute family sharing or anything like it. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
This is what all that Fortnite money is going to support. Think twice before playing Battle Royale games.
That's where i'm at with Outer Worlds myself. Still don't like this deal, but that's where I was gonna buy it as soon as they announced it.
I mean sure if you'd rather the devs get paid significantly less and maybe can't fund their next game because of "steam community pages" and shit, sure
User Banned (3 Days): Advocating piracy
Very disappointed to hear that these games have all been delayed a year, however I'm liking Epic's new spyware-free web client and pricing model for early access:
This is obviously a joke, not an endorsement or promotion. Don't pirate games.
I wonder if the games going to the Microsoft Store will be on Game Pass, and if there will be new hardware to run RTX games at high frame rates by the time Control is released on Steam.
It's also one thing to be paying for exclusivity, but another to be paying companies specifically to not do business with one another store. I wonder about the legality of that - it reminds me of Intel paying companies to not carry AMD hardware, for example.
And Steam really needs to add some kind of clause to prevent companies from advertising their game on the service for months, only to sell exclusivity to someone else.
This is obviously a joke, not an endorsement or promotion. Don't pirate games.
I wonder if the games going to the Microsoft Store will be on Game Pass, and if there will be new hardware to run RTX games at high frame rates by the time Control is released on Steam.
It's also one thing to be paying for exclusivity, but another to be paying companies specifically to not do business with one another store. I wonder about the legality of that - it reminds me of Intel paying companies to not carry AMD hardware, for example.
And Steam really needs to add some kind of clause to prevent companies from advertising their game on the service for months, only to sell exclusivity to someone else.
What would really be brave when you have a verified tag is put what game studio you work at. I wonder if the antagonistic commentary would be different
Wrong on all counts. You are paying more money, Steam codes are free to put on 3rd party sites by the publisher, so you have properly licensed codes selling on 3rd party sites with 8-25% discounts at launch depending on the publisher /store. With EGS, the keys aren't free for 3rd party sites and only Humble is allowed to sell so far.
Other barriers for EGS include no freaking cloud saves for your games, no controller APIs so good luck using PS4/Switch controllers without 3rd party hacks, and many many other features it lacks like no achievements, no built in mod support, no message boards, no proper VR support, etc.
What a lovely sentiment.
Is this cool to do on Era now? Pro-theft and pirating if the game is on the wrong launcher?
Also we can agree that the time to react from Valve is getting tighter by the moment?
They need to do something, and no the lowered cut they did months ago is not nearly enough and effective.
They need to do something, and no the lowered cut they did months ago is not nearly enough and effective.
Oh no! It's the end of the world! Paying full price for a game!
Won't make a difference when Epic also throws a lump sum pile of fortnite cash on top as well to seal exclusitivity rights. They'd have to lower their cut and then some....probably by a stupid amount.
Afterparty: Oxenfree devs, I gotta have it 99x
Control: Remedy, I gotta have it
Dauntless: f2p Monster Hunter, was great when I tested it
Spellbreak: Gotta have it
Outer Worlds: Gotta have it
I'm toast
Control: Remedy, I gotta have it
Dauntless: f2p Monster Hunter, was great when I tested it
Spellbreak: Gotta have it
Outer Worlds: Gotta have it
I'm toast
Did you make this image? Lol.Very disappointed to hear that these games have all been delayed a year, however I'm liking Epic's new spyware-free web client and pricing model for early access:
This is obviously a joke, not an endorsement or promotion. Don't pirate games.
I wonder if the games going to the Microsoft Store will be on Game Pass, and if there will be new hardware to run RTX games at high frame rates by the time Control is released on Steam.
It's also one thing to be paying for exclusivity, but another to be paying companies specifically to not do business with one another store. I wonder about the legality of that - it reminds me of Intel paying companies to not carry AMD hardware, for example.
And Steam really needs to add some kind of clause to prevent companies from advertising their game on the service for months, only to sell exclusivity to someone else.
Thankfully I'm not interested in any of these games. Outer Worlds wouldn't have been a buy until it's like $15 anyways so not within the first calendar year in theory.
They can get an up to 18% better part of their own cake without taking the one year exclusivity bribe.
Or are they afraid customers would opt for the better service that results in 70% per unit?
It's much easier to stifle competition rather than offer a better product/service.
you realize this was take two's decision and not obsidian's, right?
Obsidian is owned by the most valuable tech company on Earth. Remedy is publicly traded.
But ok.
CDPR would never sell out like that. They pride themselves on consumer friendliness and generating goodwill.
That's a solid take... if you completely skipped all discussions of this so far.
If so, here, to bring you up to speed:
These definitely don't help.Only error here is that EGS also have an offline mode and it supports region pricing (not all regions though) now:
I'm not a valve loyalist.
I have over 50 PC games, in boxes. Yes for real.
Devs don't owe us shit. Not ports, not our preferred storefronts, not our preferred platforms, nothing. We owe them NOTHING in return.
Once money changes hands, we don't owe each other shit.
Chines gamers cant use EGS.
Linux gamers cant play games on EGS if there isnt a linux version.
I cant share games from EGS with my wife.
I cant use a steam Pro controller if I want.
I cant easily play the game on my TV if I want.
I cant check out guides on the overlay.
etc.
Between Detroit and Journey they are racking up Sony games.
Is it possible for Epic Game Store to get Bloodborne? This forum would explode.
This is stupid, nothing is an excuse to condone piracy, if you don't agree the games being exclusive is completely understandable, saying piracy is okay and warranted is out of line.
This has nothing to do with cut. Developers and publishers are going for the money Epic pays upfront. Proof for that is 1 year exclusivity and from today deal with Humble where cut between developers and humble will probably stay the same as it was for Steam games.
For different people it's different reasons. For me personally, I use some Steam features like Steam Controller, Big Picture, In-Home Streaming and such, so I like to keep my games on one client. Some games are easy to add to Steam as Non-Steam Games, especially DRM-free ones, but games on other clients like Origin and EGS add DRM to the game which makes launching them through Steam more difficult, meaning I lose all those Steam platform features.
The community have made workarounds for a lot of clients through apps like GloSC. Battle.net, Origin, and even EGS games can be added to Steam without too much difficulty nowadays, but it's still a nuisance and you do lose functionality. Plus, if Epic changes anything on their end, it could break in an instant. It's far from ideal.
The other issue is more of a philosophical one. I have less of an issue with buying games from other clients assuming I can use my preferred Steam features with them, but I disagree with Epic carving up the PC gaming landscape with console-style exclusives that stifle competition on the platform.
Hope that helps!
I have more games on GoG than on Steam. But i value developers not only for their talent but also for their principles. Announcing your game on Steam and GoG and then making it a timed exclusive means that the devs that pull this do not care about the same values as me. And it is ok.
Their games will either happen to my backlog free, used or after a deep sale from a store front that does not spy or moneyhat.