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The Original DOOM, DOOM II, And DOOM 3 Have All Surprise Launched On Nintendo Switch, PS4, and Xbox One [see threadmarks for FAQ]

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Dinjoralo

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Considering how excellent source ports of Doom 1 and 2 are, I find it baffling that Bethesda's own software teams can't provide a decent official port. Hopefully they don't find the need to screw with the PC versions so the original WADs and all that are always accessible.
 
naitosan

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Richter1887 said:
Good to hear. Is it 4K?

I wonder how it is on PS4 Pro.
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Buff Beefbroth said:
Any guess on the resolution?
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Hard to tell, my TV isn't 4k. The edges' seem to look smooth so either downscaled from 4k or AA applied. But for sure it's 1080p. Here's two screenshots, hope you're able to view them.

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Jimnymebob

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OK, the music sounds kinda off, like it's a PAL version or something, but gameplay feels fantastic.

Surely it'd be a simple fix though.
 
pukadon

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Just so you know, the xbla version of doom are gone. licence revoked. you cannot download them even ifyou bought the games. wtf bethesda?!
 
Opa-Pa

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B. Spaceman said:
Doesn't the music sound a bit slow (in the Switch version at least)?
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Yes, it's slowed down and some instruments sound very off. It's very similar (if not the same?) to the PS3 version, it sucks... Tho I played so much of these on PS3 that by now I'm used to these borked soundtracks lol. Still, I really hope they fix this, but I'm not holding my breath.

Other than that, these ports run and control excellently and the HD rumble is pretty neat.
 
Foltzie

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Outstanding! Lets get Doom!

/me Plays Doom

Well, I'm still not great at it, and I keep trying to figure out why I can't look up.
 
Son of Liberty

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I played about 30 minutes of Doom 3 on Switch in handheld mode.
Overall it looks really solid and plays well, however the game does chug a bit when there's a lot of action on the screen.
Edit: Tried docked mode and performance was about the same, hopefully further patches can optimize the performance.
Still, not a bad port and it's nice to have Doom 3 on the go, which I assume would be the main appeal of the Switch version.
 
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Opa-Pa said:
Yes, it's slowed down and some instruments sound very off. It's very similar (if not the same?) to the PS3 version, it sucks... Tho I played so much of these on PS3 that by now I'm used to these borked soundtracks lol. Still, I really hope they fix this, but I'm not holding my breath.

Other than that, these ports run and control excellently and the HD rumble is pretty neat.
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Cranster said:
Fuck, the xbla versions had the same problem. Hopefully they fix that.
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Damn, the music is such an integral part of the game for me... What are the chances of them fixing it? :(
 

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MattWhite924 said:
Looks like it's not correctly darkening textures are they go into the distance too.
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Honestly this is the biggest problem with the port. I could live with it being a tiny bit stretched but this is unacceptable. By the way it was Nerve Software that handled the port which is strange as I thought they handled the XBLA ports too.
 
Carnby

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Jeezus, the PS4 version moves slower than all other versions. How the hell they mess this up. I'll pass.
 
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no Y-axis camera movement, gameview not fully stretched to 16:9 and tacked-on DRM for the Switch version

wow id, wow
 
The Thnikkaman

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Just picked it up for switch and get greeted by "Log into BNet".

First off, don't call it BNet, that's taken already.
Second of all, why in the world do they need me to log in to this?

Something about this really irks me even though I know it's not a huge deal. I don't even have a Bethesda account so I guess I gotta make one now.

BoosterDuck said:
no Y-axis camera movement, gameview not fully stretched to 16:9 and tacked-on DRM for the Switch version

wow id, wow
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No vertical look is just DOOM baby. Allowing vertical look really fucks with the illusion (DOOM isn't a true 3d Game). Having to log in is a load of garbage though. I don't think id had anything to do with this port.
 
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maximumzero said:
No, haven't played Doom since it's original PC release back in...Christ, 2004?
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Assuming you mean Doom 3, yup 15 years - same year as Half Life 2!

As for the flashlight, I think they rebalanced the game as BFG is still great, even if it feels more action-ey. I loved Doom 3 when it originally released, but the flashlight mechanic even at the time felt pretty silly (particularly with the pistol!). Like this space marine can't figure out a better solution than this?
 
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HueyFreeman said:
Assuming you mean Doom 3, yup 15 years - same year as Half Life 2!

As for the flashlight, I think they rebalanced the game as BFG is still great, even if it feels more action-ey. I loved Doom 3 when it originally released, but the flashlight mechanic even at the time felt pretty silly. Like this space marine can't figure out a better solution than this??
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I understand the logic of it was flawed, but having to choose between being able to see your environment with no defense and access to weapons while being cut off from seeing your environment made things really tense.
 
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You need to sign in with a Bethesda account to play these games? Why?! I wouldn't want to create it before, but after the 76 shit storm, like hell I'm supporting that...
 
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I already had a Bethesda account somehow but some cynical part of me thinks all these new users are gonna show up in some graph somewhere patting themselves on the back for all these new Bethesda.net users...
 

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The Thnikkaman said:
Just picked it up for switch and get greeted by "Log into BNet".

First off, don't call it BNet, that's taken already.
Second of all, why in the world do they need me to log in to this?

Something about this really irks me even though I know it's not a huge deal. I don't even have a Bethesda account so I guess I gotta make one now.



No vertical look is just DOOM baby. Allowing vertical look really fucks with the illusion (DOOM isn't a true 3d Game). Having to log in is a load of garbage though. I don't think id had anything to do with this port.
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Agreed. Having to log in is a load of fucking trash even if it really isn't much of a pain. online DRM on fucking doom is indefensible.
 
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Dancrane212 said:
Utterly baffling that an XBLA port from 2006 gets this right but a multiplatform re-release in 2019 can't.

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I'd argue that this isn't necessarily the best, either. There's been dozens source ports for billions of years now where you can keep the graphics vanilla but properly scaled for widescreen. No reason for this to have been 4:3 in 2006 or these new ports to have stretched widescreen.
 
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TheMoon said:
They key is in your post: Multiplatform vs decidedly single platform-focused version created to highlight all the strengths.
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The strength of no forced wallpaper?

Buff Beefbroth said:
I'd argue that this isn't necessarily the best, either. There's been dozens source ports for billions of years now where you can keep the graphics vanilla but properly scaled for widescreen. No reason for this to have been 4:3 in 2006 or these new ports to have stretched widescreen.
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Oh, for sure a native widescreen is prefered 99% of the time. Just if the screen isn't going to be filled I'd rather not force my TV to display a static image.
 
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Richter1887 said:
So not only did they take away the Xbox version (thus not allowing people to play it even though they own it) and delisted the PS3 collection that had everything. But they gave us a worse version?

God damn.
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Who's "They" here?
The XBLA version was published by Activision and was taken down due to them no longer having the license iirc.

I just played a few stages on the Switch. Plays well, but I really hope they fix the music tempo, it's weird. SE fixed the music in the FF7 port, so anything's possible I guess.
 
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Fucking hell, I got so excited for these but hearing all the crap actually killed this for me. How do you screw up Doom :/
 

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The Thnikkaman said:
Who's "They" here?
The XBLA version was published by Activision and was taken down due to them no longer having the license iirc.

I just played a few stages on the Switch. Plays well, but I really hope they fix the music tempo, it's weird. SE fixed the music in the FF7 port, so anything's possible I guess.
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Bethesda.

And no, they had it on the Xbox Store. After they bought Doom and Id the rights transfered to them. They even made them backwards compatible.

Also if it is as you say (which I doubt), what about the PS3 version, why did they remove it?
 
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Buff Beefbroth said:
I'd argue that this isn't necessarily the best, either. There's been dozens source ports for billions of years now where you can keep the graphics vanilla but properly scaled for widescreen. No reason for this to have been 4:3 in 2006 or these new ports to have stretched widescreen.
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I think proper 16:9 with the correct scalling for the sprites is best, but 4:3 is second best. The option to switch between those would be nice.
 
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maximumzero said:
I understand the logic of it was flawed, but having to choose between being able to see your environment with no defense and access to weapons while being cut off from seeing your environment made things really tense.
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Agreed. I always felt like I was one of the few people that actually liked the dumb trade off between having to have the flashlight up or weapons. It didn't always work great but it was a fascinating mechanic that I think helped elevate the game past just a dark corridor monster closet romp.
 
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Step 0. Get a pc
1. Buy Doom 2 for 2€ on steam, in offer right now
2. Download GZDoom
3. Configure the way you prefer. modern aiming or classic? software look or filtered textures and 3d lightning? wasd or classic strafing controls?
4. Download ZDL launcher.
5. Download from misc mods like better music and better textures, to utility mods like custom super granular difficulty, or autosave feature (edit: or maybe new weapon packs! or maybe an AI director mods! or a randomizer of enemies with dozens of new monsters!)
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6. Download any wad of the highly polished and mature mod scene, see https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/
7. ???
8. Profit!
 

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The Thnikkaman said:
Who's "They" here?
The XBLA version was published by Activision and was taken down due to them no longer having the license iirc.

I just played a few stages on the Switch. Plays well, but I really hope they fix the music tempo, it's weird. SE fixed the music in the FF7 port, so anything's possible I guess.
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They is Bethesda. They originally released under Activision but got re-released under Bethesda. This has zero to do with Activision.
 
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