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Donald Draper

Banned
Feb 2, 2019
2,361
If I couldn't have my own office and take off my pants and close the door and browse resetera for hours on end, what's the point of working?
 

Powdered Egg

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
17,070
I would hate this. I had to share an office once and hated people walking in an out to the point I volunteered to work in the storage room for privacy. Got a desk in their and cranked out more work.
 
Jan 29, 2018
9,395
It's 100% about getting more people in the same amount of space. Everything else is a post-hoc justification.

It really drives me crazy when everyone around me is talking to a coworker or on the phone when I'm trying to focus. I tend to get the most done with two or more people in my "pod" (think a big cubicle with 8 desks in it, but the walls are low so you still see/hear the other pods) are out for the day.
 

joecanada

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,651
Canada
I thank the universe daily that I have a cubical after working for years in an noisy open office. What dysfunctional extrovert thought up that terrible idea?
Is a cubicle less noisy ? Our cubicle has no walls over 5 feet it's shit
I just saw studies showing engagement didn't increase as everyone ends up with headphones anyway
 

Lakeside

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,221
i think I'd rather just be homeless or dead than spend every day in an open office situation. Fortunately there are still some alternatives and studies are showing that the fad is a bad thing. It would just be a living hell most of every single day.

i honestly could not do it. Honestly I think I'd quickly fail in that environment anyways so I'd need to remove myself from the situation.
 

sweetmini

Member
Jun 12, 2019
3,921
You may want to talk with the health personnel at your work about how they can help you with your situation.
At my previous work it was possible to get a "folder" (don't know the term, i am not english, i mean the thing that you hide behind to change clothes) to surround yourself with.
 

ThatCrazyGuy

Member
Nov 27, 2017
9,867
I think they are counter productive, especially with alot of people.

It's noisy, constant movement, everybody has noise cancelling headphones on, people are hiding off in conference rooms and corners. I don't see how it more productive with mixed teams either. The other team doesn't want to hear our shit. We go to a conference room anyways. Whatevs. Bring back cubicles!

I wish these managers were honest about it. It's to fit more people in a space.
 

p_xavier

Member
Jan 8, 2018
94
I actually got a Dr.'s note to work from home unless I get a private workspace. Most of the studies show that open spaces are bad. So I'll work on my terms now.
 

Zaphod

Member
Aug 21, 2019
1,107
Is a cubicle less noisy ? Our cubicle has no walls over 5 feet it's shit
I just saw studies showing engagement didn't increase as everyone ends up with headphones anyway

It helps a little on sound with the 6' tall cubes we have. I'm easily bothered by visual distractions, so I contemplated getting horse blinders in the open office.
 

Reeks

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,326
I'm in what everyone calls the "fishbowl," basically behind glass like I'm quarantined while everyone else is on the main floor. I feel isolated but still visible, which fucking blows. I want to be where the people are.
 

mhayes86

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,249
Maryland
I'm in a pseudo open office with an awful layout.

The cube walls go up to about chest height, but the top 8 inches are clear glass. Some people tape pictures up to help block the view into their workspace. Other than a lack of privacy, my annoyance is that the shorter walls don't filter the noise. I have coworkers making some gross noises all day.

As for the layout, each set of cubes has a few that face the aisle, and others that face the back wall with your back facing the main travel aisle. I'm so glad I'm facing the aisle so I don't have people sneaking up behind me or constantly walking by and peering into my space without knowing, especially since I'm the first cube by the aisle.
 

Quick

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,664
For the first time ever, I'm working in an open concept office, and I actually like it a lot. I barely sit at my desk and I chill with co-workers all day in an area we've pretty much taken over. This is compared to having my own office at one of my old jobs.

I will say that I'm in a department of under 40 people and we have a fairly large space, so it probably works well because our numbers are small.
 

twentytwo22

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,529
Our company just designed a new floor for us and they made huge cubes with convertible standing/sitting desks that my team loves. I've been in an office for 4-5 years at this point but if I had to go back to an open office concept I think I would go absolutely insane. I get enough drive-bys in my office (even with the damn door closed!) as it is.
 

skies_

Member
Feb 28, 2018
251
Having worked in both, an open office is significantly better than a cubicle. Cubicles are misery
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,486
Well this is interesting, I'm in the UK and don't know any other way to be in an office, every single one I've worked in has been open plan. Seems pretty prevalent here, I've never come across the cubicle arrangement. I didn't realise there was such opposition to open plan.

I don't see the issue with open plan unless you have some sort of anxiety issue that means you can't interact with people. For me at least it means easy access to other teams and promotes inclusion as it's easy to become involved in what others are doing, learn from others, give input on issues others are having etc and I've yet to work in one that's so noisy it distracted me from my work. I don't need headphones, no one in the office of 60 people does. At its worst it's just a low murmur of people chatting or on the phone as well as the usual keyboard clatter and phones ringing etc.
 
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Cascadero

Member
Nov 8, 2017
1,526
Open offices are normal. I haven't seen cubicles since I started working fifteen years ago.
Hot desking is where it all goes to hell. Whoever thought that's a good idea... In most companies where it is introduced the employees settle in after a few days and just apply social control so everyone has the same desk every day...
In some cases also not enough desks for everyone so just a way go squeeze more people onto the same floor. Even worse.

And yes earphones are a life saver.
 

16bits

Member
Apr 26, 2019
2,862
Staff hate it, and it reduces productivity

papers in journals also conclude that communication actually goes down, as people get more annoyed with their co workers
 

AGoodODST

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,480
I really enjoy it. But then I am the person always talking to everyone haha. Helps my team is full of pretty lively people too so it's usually a good laugh.

We got a permanent desk which does make it much better though. I hate that shit where it's a different desk everyday.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Deleted member 41502

User requested account closure
Banned
Mar 28, 2018
1,177
I've never worked in a non-open office. But open ones have never bothered me too much. I hate talking to people so... I don't. I'm awful at small talk. When they do come by I just answer questions abruptly. "Yes I can do that. Do you need something else?... OK. Talk to you later".

Near my old desk the IT guys would have a bi-weekly party of some sort. Thats the only time I can remember it being especially bad. Some guys at my current office do have private offices. I assume its to help make sure everyone knows who is important and who isn't.
 

Donos

Member
Nov 15, 2017
6,531
I like both systems but others talking / being on the phone all day didn't bother me. Since we had a great young team at the office, it was nice to just go some steps and talk to somebody or ask them for help /give help. There were a few colleagues who didn't like the noise too and yelled at us when we talked to loud...

Now I have my own room which is nice to but I miss the crowdy/noisy times off the open office.
 

Grug

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,645
If you aren't bothered by the open office, you are probably the one annoying everyone else.
 

elenarie

Game Developer
Verified
Jun 10, 2018
9,817
I love it! I like being available, approachable and reachable by anyone.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,326
Think of it has an opportunity to bond holistically with your fellow worker and seize the chance to embrace the synergy that working in a shared space can create. You are all a team, not a set of individuals, come together become a sum. Breathe the same air, feel the same chills and heat flashes, embrace togetherness. You are now part of a noble tribe united by a common goal. Embody that beauty and admire being so in visual touch with others who are with you.
 

Dougald

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,937
My office is open plan, at about 2x capacity so its crowded as all hell, and unairconditioned. Plus my boss sits next to me so I get every single person who comes looking for him standing behind me nattering all day.

I own a pair of decent noise cancelling headphones and find that's generally sufficient enough, but god damn do they at least need to spread people out a bit more.
 

thetrin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,652
Atlanta, GA
Pretty much every Japanese office is an open floorplan, so I've had to get used to it. I usually just throw on my headphones and work until someone taps my shoulder to ask me something.

That said I work in a very small office so it's less distracting.
 

Tobor

Member
Oct 25, 2017
28,502
Richmond, VA
Open offices are just a way for them to save money by making it seem like a trend.

Exactly. save money by cramming more people into the same space.

we went from full spacious cubicles to a series of open plans, each one with less space than the one before it until finally we're almost touching elbows.

It's not about collaboration and communication. That's all bullshit.

They finally caved and let us telecommute some which has helped.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
The only advantage of an open office is to stop managers camping out in their office and making them accessible at all times and more aware of what's actually going on.
 

Acidote

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,974
I'm thankful every day for having my own office. I don't think I've ever closed the door and everyone know I'm available anytime, but just the reduced noise and not seeing anyone pass by unless they're specifically looking for me helps a lot with concentration.
 

BassForever

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
29,939
CT
I like it, we have mini cubicles in our office so we still have that walled off "this is your space" but it's easy to look up and talk to whoever you need when working on a project or a question needs to be asked.

Of course it does lead to bigger moments of distraction, but I know that can happen in any workplace.
 
Oct 25, 2017
20,229
Open office with 10 to 20 people, fine

Open office with 300 plus and a mix of sales, marketing, and engineering is a fucking miserable time. Bonus points if your higher ups acknowledge the problem but continue to work inside their own office.

A lot of it just comes down to poor human etiquette too. I know a lot of people said headphones but there is something unsettling about not knowing if people are right next to you or trying to talk to you.