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The Office rant (SPOILERS)
- Thread starter out_of_touch
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Later seasons aren't bad but they sure miss the spark.
Fact is the finale is one of the most satisfying episodes in all TV, it's perfection.
Fact is the finale is one of the most satisfying episodes in all TV, it's perfection.
No it doesn't get any better. There are moments that sparkle through out the rest, some that downright made me angry and want to quit watching, but it never truly shines again without Michael Scott.
There is a big drop off in quality somewhere around season 6. I dislike most of 7-9 although there are still some funny episodes. But the best to worst in order in my opinion are seasons 3, 2, 4, 1, 5, 6, 9, 7, 8.
Robert California is brilliant.
Andy becoming progressively more and more of an ass is always a bummer though.
Season 2-4 are the best ones. S5 is decent. Then afterwards it's pretty mediocre, except for season 8 which at least has robert california.
Season 8 with Robert California is pretty damn fantastic. Seasons 1-4 are the best, and dwindles down from there leading to Michael's departure. Season 9 is pretty bleh. Only saving grace there was the finale.
Regardless of the ups and downs, it is an infinitely re-watchable show for us. I must have seen it 40+ times start-finish now.
Regardless of the ups and downs, it is an infinitely re-watchable show for us. I must have seen it 40+ times start-finish now.
seasons 5-7 are way less consistent, but there's still some gems scattered throughout
SCOTT'S TOTS
also, they ruined kevin's character in that show. i don't understand why they turned him into a fucking idiot
SCOTT'S TOTS
also, they ruined kevin's character in that show. i don't understand why they turned him into a fucking idiot
Seasons 2-4 are just as trope-y. Also it'd be way too drawn out if they kept Jim and Pam apart until the finale. (And 5 has the Michael Scott Paper Company arc, which rules)
2>3>4>5>1>7>6>>>9>8
2>3>4>5>1>7>6>>>9>8
S1 got a lot of flak for copypasta the UK version. Its fun comparing the lighting and tone when compared to S2+
If you don't care about any other characters beyond Michael, I would say just stop watching. The other characters new&old are what makes the show.
If you don't care about any other characters beyond Michael, I would say just stop watching. The other characters new&old are what makes the show.
Haven't even met one of the best characters yet.
Yeah, dispite the later seasons being trash, Robert California was incredible
Them struggling with Jims new job opportunity was one of the best things they wrote from them after they got together. Its the strongest part of those weaker later seasons revolving around Andy's dumb storylines.
I can't get into any of these comedy shows where the characters talk to the camera, documentary-style. I really hate it.
I also hate Jim. The whole time he's on my screen I want to punch him in the face.
Not a fan, obviously.
I also hate Jim. The whole time he's on my screen I want to punch him in the face.
Not a fan, obviously.
I've been rewatching it too and I'm up to the last few episodes before Michael leaves.
There are still some great, small character moments that are fun but some of the major stories can be a real chore. The whole thing with Andy, Erin, and Gabe was so terrible. I'm sure they weren't trying to relive the exact same story that they had with Jim and Pam but it really wasn't interesting and it was mostly terribly executed. I didn't care at all if Andy and Erin started dating eventually. And they kept leaning on Michael's jealousy issues and need to make his employees feel like family. Those two aspects of his character are fine in short bursts but I think there was a three or four episode span that centered in him being jealous of someone. After watching the entire series twice before, Michael stops being funny and just becomes too obnoxious to be tolerable to me.
I was halfway through the last Dundees episode but I'll probably switch to something else to fill the role of background noise. Those early seasons are still great and the middle seasons still have many good episodes but I guess marathoning the series has made me really dislike jerkass Michael over time.
There are still some great, small character moments that are fun but some of the major stories can be a real chore. The whole thing with Andy, Erin, and Gabe was so terrible. I'm sure they weren't trying to relive the exact same story that they had with Jim and Pam but it really wasn't interesting and it was mostly terribly executed. I didn't care at all if Andy and Erin started dating eventually. And they kept leaning on Michael's jealousy issues and need to make his employees feel like family. Those two aspects of his character are fine in short bursts but I think there was a three or four episode span that centered in him being jealous of someone. After watching the entire series twice before, Michael stops being funny and just becomes too obnoxious to be tolerable to me.
I was halfway through the last Dundees episode but I'll probably switch to something else to fill the role of background noise. Those early seasons are still great and the middle seasons still have many good episodes but I guess marathoning the series has made me really dislike jerkass Michael over time.
You are at a fine stopping point. I enjoyed a lot of it past that point, but it's never as good again and sometimes awful.
S1-- I didn't like it because I had seen the UK Office, which S1 was a weak retread of. More power to those who liked it, but the original was better for those particular bits. Once it found its own voice, it improved greatly and became a different-but-equal partner with its UK cousin.
I was working through my re-watch and I like Robert California but bailed when Nelly became manager. I can't stand Nelly.
Worth powering through for the finale. I honestly don't consider the post Jim/Pam couple seasons to be that bad since all the elements you complain about existed there from minute 1 of the show. I also really consider the Michael/Holly arc, the Michael Scott Paper Company arc and the Charles Minor arc some of the best plot lines in the series, and these are all post Jim/Pam. The series only really takes a nosedive when Michael Scott leaves, with season 8 being the worst in the series. Season 9 puts in the work to pull out of that tailspin (although not gracefully) for a magnificent finale that always leaves my eyes welled up in a good few moments.
Jim and Pam totally run out of steam, but it would've been a disaster to stretch it out that long.
I think once Michael leaves , The Office actually gets a bit better again. Mostly because the show seems to go more in depth with some of the other characters instead of being the Michael, Jim, and Pam show.
I'd even rank season 9 as one of the top 3.
I'd even rank season 9 as one of the top 3.
The only time his character made me laughHaven't even met one of the best characters yet.
User warned: Thread-whining.
you just made a thread to complain about a show that's been off the air for years
just stop watching it if you dont like it. pretty simple. I dont know why we need constant "I dont like thing" threads.
saying "people are wrong for liking thing" makes you seem better and smarter. good job.
Absolutely love the Office but Jim Halpert is a smug douche and generally an all around awful character. Almost as bad as Ted Mosby from HIMYM with the way he pursues relationships.
Andy is really just terrible and deserves every bit of misery after how he treats certain people.
To me, Dwight Schrute really is the heart and soul of the show if you're looking at a complete picture. Pam is probably up there with him as well.
Andy is really just terrible and deserves every bit of misery after how he treats certain people.
To me, Dwight Schrute really is the heart and soul of the show if you're looking at a complete picture. Pam is probably up there with him as well.
It should've ended on Jim and pam's wedding episode and it would've gone out as one of the best shows ever. It really fell off after that but I will say I really enjoyed the 2 part finale
As far as network shows go it's up there with some of the best.
Michael Scott is very quote worthy.
Michael Scott is very quote worthy.
I came in to say this. It would have been insulting for their relationship to not develop the way it did during those last two seasons.
I think the show is brilliant beginning to end
Every time that smug, unfunny asshole appeared on my screen I immediately and acutely missed Michael Scott.
Robert California was awful. His character was a bad person and he was a bad character.
Creed was only continuously funny one and you only use him for one or two lines an ep.
Rest of it was so warm and soft and cloying. Horrible stuff.
Rest of it was so warm and soft and cloying. Horrible stuff.
Add me to the list of people who hate the shit out of Jim. There's little redeeming about him despite how the show tries to portray him.
The show is golden until Season 8. If you are not hooked from the characters alone by now, you should probably just give it up.
Show took a nose dive when corporate kind of disappeared. They were the more realistic backbone. The rest of the office was alright but they slowly became more and more unrealistic. When Robert California finally leaves the show, it demonstrates just how far they've gone off the deep end in terms of wackiness.
Robert California is literally the only reason to keep watching. And he's a good one! The show as a whole doesn't get better though despite him. Mainly because the show focuses heavily on Andy later on which....Andy sucks. He started well enough but in the later seasons he's indigestible
Season 5 and 6 were good though and probably some of the better seasons of the whole series.
Season 1 is as bad as Season 9
Season 1 is as bad as Season 9
This "fuck Jim" thing is bizarre. Reeks of the kind of "he was designed to be the likable every man character, therefore I dislike him by default" shit.
It really goes downhill on Andy's first clone. That is, "Andy" ends up referring to like 3 or 4 different characters all played by Ed Helms and the breakneck speed with which the show subs the clones in and out makes him insufferable.
The first "Andy" you get is fine. But it gets so much worse on the next couple.
I get it. Jim is the relatable but still obsessed with work character (because ultimately he's still super into all the hijinks, just his own hijinks).
Legit, the real relatable character is Oscar. Because he always smells the corporate BS and doesn't want to be involved in the zany bits from anybody.
The first "Andy" you get is fine. But it gets so much worse on the next couple.
I get it. Jim is the relatable but still obsessed with work character (because ultimately he's still super into all the hijinks, just his own hijinks).
Legit, the real relatable character is Oscar. Because he always smells the corporate BS and doesn't want to be involved in the zany bits from anybody.
Robert California is Jame Spaders rehearsal for Blacklist. They are almost 1 in the same.
Now as far as the office is concerned. I enjoyed it over all. Really disliked how they evolved Andys character to somewhat likable but then he became total and complete trash.
Seasons 6-9 have some drop in quality but there are still quiet a few episodes in there that are FUCKING GOLD. (Dwight and Jim snowball fight OMG). Last 4-3 episodes really close things out very very well.
Now as far as the office is concerned. I enjoyed it over all. Really disliked how they evolved Andys character to somewhat likable but then he became total and complete trash.
Seasons 6-9 have some drop in quality but there are still quiet a few episodes in there that are FUCKING GOLD. (Dwight and Jim snowball fight OMG). Last 4-3 episodes really close things out very very well.