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Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh shit, that's the dude with the child pedo charge?

Jesus...



From what I remember the dude literally did not give a fuck, he was flaunting to Nintendo how he was circumventing their security, completely in the open on his Discord server, and was given a C&D warning, which was pretty lenient all things considered from how blatant he was about it earlier.

Yeah just read about the child porn too, not much of a life left to ruin I guess.

Just makes you wonder how a person gets to that point.
 
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Atheerios

Atheerios

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wait all of this info came from a Nintendo of America employee? And damn child porno too what the hell.
I think this most recent leak from BroadOn comes from a separate hack, as the files are specific for that company.

But all the other things yeah, as that employee had full access to Nintendo internal network.
 
May 24, 2019
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The person was already arrested:

www.justice.gov

California man who hacked into Nintendo servers to steal video games and other proprietary information pleads guilty

Seattle – A 21-year-old Palmdale, California, man pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court in Seattle to federal crimes related to his computer hacking scheme and his possession of child pornography found on his digital devices, announced U.S. Attorney Brian T. Moran.

Basically, he used phishing to get the credentials of one NoA employee and dumped everything he could. He then shared the file with other people before being arrested. Now, those other persons are finally sharing the files online.

" A 21-year-old Palmdale, California, man pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court in Seattle to federal crimes related to his computer hacking scheme and his possession of child pornography found on his digital devices "
 

Rocky Road

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Jun 1, 2018
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If we get any Pokemon from beyond Generation 2 leaked, I will absolutely ascend. The Gen 7 debug has got me excited. Earthbound 64 is also greatly exciting. Also, I wonder if we'll see any cancelled and unannounced games arise from this?
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Emulation and homebrew are likely to improve dramatically, no? This is actually pretty big, as far as leaks go.

edit: will probably cause some legal issues though
 

JershJopstin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Right after someone said the server hack was probably bullshit in the Diddy Kong Racing thread since nothing substantial came if it lol
it'll probably help with higher accuracy in emulation
Probably people interested in emulation and building emulators.

Also Nintendo's lawyers will probably get a nice payday.
At most I hope the Dolphin devs have some fun with this.
Emulator writers (although if modified based on this leak they actually could get into murky legal territory since most emulation is legal by virtue of being based on clean-room reverse engineering.)
I can't speak to other emulators, but Dolphin has rejected offers of assistance from people who have access to the official SDK in the past, and has even gone as far as scrubbing contributions from outsiders if it became clear they used copyrighted information IIRC. I don't think they'll change their stance now.
 

TiC

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Jul 12, 2019
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The person was already arrested:

www.justice.gov

California man who hacked into Nintendo servers to steal video games and other proprietary information pleads guilty

Seattle – A 21-year-old Palmdale, California, man pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court in Seattle to federal crimes related to his computer hacking scheme and his possession of child pornography found on his digital devices, announced U.S. Attorney Brian T. Moran.

Basically, he used phishing to get the credentials of one NoA employee and dumped everything he could. He then shared the file with other people before being arrested. Now, those other persons are finally sharing the files online.
This dude had no sense of self-preservation, why would he become a Nintendo leaker while also owning child pornography, he must have known the massive risk that Nintendo would come after him and seize his electronic devices. Glad he's caught and hopefully will be safely put away from kids.
 

MrConbon210

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Oct 31, 2017
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What? It's old stuff that has to do with Nintendo's highest highs and lowest lows and the creative process that went into them. How is this not interesting? Especially since it was the era transitioning from old Nintendo to Iwata era Nintendo
It's interesting but I wouldn't call it the biggest leak in Nintendo history. The leak about the June Nintendo Direct id consider bigger as it actually is about upcoming, unknown information opposed to a system that is like 15 years old
 

Nanashrew

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Oct 25, 2017
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Right after someone said the server hack was probably bullshit in the Diddy Kong Racing thread since nothing substantial came if it lol




I can't speak to other emulators, but Dolphin has rejected offers of assistance from people who have access to the official SDK in the past, and has even gone as far as scrubbing contributions from outsiders if it became clear they used copyrighted information IIRC. I don't think they'll change their stance now.
Yep. Because it's illegal to use source code of hardware and would get Dolphin shutdown. It would be the same for any other emulator out there. Emulator makers are protected from companies by using reverse engineering and using their own code.
 

JershJopstin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dolphin is about to be 100% compatible with the Wii and Gamcube library.

They were already sitting at 99%.


Though I'm sure any knowledge gleaned from this in the production or enhancement of any emulator will not be spelled out in any source code. I'm sure they'll still reverse engineer, but now, they'll know the exact manner in which they have to reverse engineer to speed things along.
See my above post. They've actively rejected help from people who have access to copyrighted info in the past, even if it was obtained legally. There's no reason to suspect a change.

The only way this improves compatibility is if people outside the core dev team use it to make commits that the main team doesn't catch.
 

MattB

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's interesting but I wouldn't call it the biggest leak in Nintendo history. The leak about the June Nintendo Direct id consider bigger as it actually is about upcoming, unknown information opposed to a system that is like 15 years old
That leak will mean nothing in a year. This leak will still mean something in a year.
 

ExoExplorer

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Jan 3, 2019
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It's interesting but I wouldn't call it the biggest leak in Nintendo history. The leak about the June Nintendo Direct id consider bigger as it actually is about upcoming, unknown information opposed to a system that is like 15 years old
Ehhh compare what people learn off of a direct leak vs a internal development leak like this. Everyone eventually finds out what the upcoming releases are going to be. This stuff would likely never have seen the light of day.
 

tadaima

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Oct 30, 2017
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Here's another file for those of your curious to see the contents:

This is the NTR master file, lists every single produced game for the Nintendo DS, even unreleased ones:


This file seems to be complete up to October 2013.
Just scanned the Nintendo/任天堂 titles and couldn't find anything super interesting that stood out (aside from the data itself!). AFAIK Nintendo usually uses obscure project names for popular series titles, likely for this exact reason.
 

Neiteio

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Oct 25, 2017
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Holy cow that leaked internal company memo where Reggie informs everyone he has personally cancelled Mother 3 on Switch because he is evil and likes pineapple pizza
 

TheMadTitan

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Oct 27, 2017
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See my above post. They've actively rejected help from people who have access to copyrighted info in the past, even if it was obtained legally. There's no reason to suspect a change.

The only way this improves compatibility is if people outside the core dev team use it to make commits that the main team doesn't catch.
Then the Cemu team will take it!

But seriously though, if not the Dolphin team, I'm sure there's plenty of emulator teams that will. Maybe this gives rise to another Wii emulator in a few years.
 

Ocean

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Oct 25, 2017
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This doesn't really have much to do with preservation, since Nintendo is the one company that actually is consistently already good about preservation, but it's a cool find none-the-less.
Isn't Nintendo the company shutting down their stores and making it so you can't even re-download stuff you've bought before? Not sure where the preservation angle comes into play. No snark, it's not something I know a ton about so I'm curious what you mean
 

Nanashrew

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Oct 25, 2017
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Then the Cemu team will take it!

But seriously though, if not the Dolphin team, I'm sure there's plenty of emulator teams that will. Maybe this gives rise to another Wii emulator in a few years.
I have my doubts. This is all copyrighted material, and if any of that copyrighted material appears in your code, it will lead to legal action and shutdown. That's why some like Dolphin will actively reject such assistance.
 

BY2K

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Oct 25, 2017
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The person was already arrested:

www.justice.gov

California man who hacked into Nintendo servers to steal video games and other proprietary information pleads guilty

Seattle – A 21-year-old Palmdale, California, man pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court in Seattle to federal crimes related to his computer hacking scheme and his possession of child pornography found on his digital devices, announced U.S. Attorney Brian T. Moran.

Basically, he used phishing to get the credentials of one NoA employee and dumped everything he could. He then shared the file with other people before being arrested. Now, those other persons are finally sharing the files online.

Whaaaaaaaaat
 

JershJopstin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Then the Cemu team will take it!

But seriously though, if not the Dolphin team, I'm sure there's plenty of emulator teams that will. Maybe this gives rise to another Wii emulator in a few years.
If Dolphin was in the state it was even 5 years ago, I could see it. But I think it's mature to the point that there isn't really demand for another one. Barely any of the stuff Dolphin can't emulate is actually interesting.
 

Stopdoor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't Nintendo the company shutting down their stores and making it so you can't even re-download stuff you've bought before? Not sure where the preservation angle comes into play. No snark, it's not something I know a ton about so I'm curious what you mean

Preservation isn't the same as being publically accessible. Sure, it kind of sucks to not have legal access to something, but at least you know the source code hasn't been lost and that no one will definitely ever play it again.
 

JershJopstin

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have my doubts. This is all copyrighted material, and if any of that copyrighted material appears in your code, it will lead to legal action and shutdown. That's why some like Dolphin will actively reject such assistance.
It's harder to catch closed-source projects, admittedly - which is a large part of why people are skeptical of CEMU. But I agree.
 

JershJopstin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't Nintendo the company shutting down their stores and making it so you can't even re-download stuff you've bought before? Not sure where the preservation angle comes into play. No snark, it's not something I know a ton about so I'm curious what you mean
They're shutting down the Wii U/3DS eShop in regions that had extremely limited implementations of the shop; it was pretty much exclusively used for download codes. If you wanted to actually buy something, you used a different region - which is still open.
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
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I doubt more recent games have cut Pokemon in the data especially as it got harder to quickly do sprites/models but I hope Gen 3 has a beta out there.

I wanna see beta Shellos.
 

RoboitoAM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fascinating stuff.

I wonder how good the companies stack up in regards to preserving all of this stuff.
 

ERAsaur

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Oct 25, 2017
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Think these are multiple different leaks happening within the same time span. There were two hackers that managed to breach their servers at different times: the Californian pedophile and the former Malwarebytes employee from the UK who leaked the Spaceworld 97 Pokemon Demo to the internet in 2018. The older Pokemon stuff appears to be from the latter (and matches the converted Gen 1 assets we were given + screenshots given to Team Spaceworld), the former seemed focused on newer stuff and leaked a few pieces of info throughout the past few years through proxies.

I have no idea what's happening beyond that, that was way above anything we wanted to get involved in when the news broke back in March 2019.
 

Roliq

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Sep 23, 2018
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Seriously, my god, this is nuts, it sucks for Nintendo, but for preservationists, it is really good at least.
I don't know why people keep saying this, if anything Nintendo is the best for preservation as shown by the the whole deal of Collection of Mana being exclusive because Nintendo had a copy of the source code because Square literally lost it
 
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Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Right after someone said the server hack was probably bullshit in the Diddy Kong Racing thread since nothing substantial came if it lol




I can't speak to other emulators, but Dolphin has rejected offers of assistance from people who have access to the official SDK in the past, and has even gone as far as scrubbing contributions from outsiders if it became clear they used copyrighted information IIRC. I don't think they'll change their stance now.

I hope it at least help with better understanding of the Wii stuff so we can turn the Wii into an EVEN BETTER emulation machine
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't Nintendo the company shutting down their stores and making it so you can't even re-download stuff you've bought before? Not sure where the preservation angle comes into play. No snark, it's not something I know a ton about so I'm curious what you mean
The eShops they're shutting down only store game demos and a code redemption functions. Nothing else. Most of the people in those regions use US account anyways.
 

NSESN

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Isnt all of this illegal? Why are we giving this a spotlight?