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The next game from the writer of Zero Escape is coming out in ~2 weeks and there's barely any buzz
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I've barely heard about it personally, or maybe I haven't cared enough to pay attention.
The straight up down hill jam that was 999 to vlr to ztd going from amazing to mediocre to trash probably doesn't help.
The straight up down hill jam that was 999 to vlr to ztd going from amazing to mediocre to trash probably doesn't help.
I'm pretty excited about this. Seems like Uchi is pretty excited for it as well.
Yea, ZTD kinda tanked hype for future Uchi projects. Surprised by the dislike of VLR in here though? Is it just because ZTD retroactively makes it worse? Ignoring ZTD I feel like it's at least as good as 999 personally.
If this game is received well and continues to be well regarded over time, since I remember ZTD initially having a very positive reception, then I'll probably check it out down the road, but I'm definitely not there day one.
If this game is received well and continues to be well regarded over time, since I remember ZTD initially having a very positive reception, then I'll probably check it out down the road, but I'm definitely not there day one.
ZTD still continues to have a positive reception , e.g. on steams reviews where it has consistently been positive forever. It's the same small handful of people who've been making angry noise for years, while everyone else just moved from wasting time arguing with them a long time ago.
AI the somnium files isn't a direct sequel in an established franchise, which makes it harder to have established hype. It's the same for all the franchises coming out of the company, for instance zanki zero hardly set the hype meters alight either, and that had nothing to do with the zero escape team.
The ARG finished a while ago, but there's definitely some good stuff to see on the leminscate YouTube channel, start from the beginning.
I disliked VLR long before ZTD, though it was indeed the case that ZTD made both of the previous games worse retroactively.
Being critical of something other people happen to like doesn't automatically amount to it coming from a place of frothing, mindless rage.
I think it has more to do with being a new IP, rather than ZTD turning people. Unless you're a big name in the game industry, whoever is making the new IP doesn't hold that much weight. If it was called Zero Escape 4 it would without a doubt have more buzz around it.
Hype can't last 4+ years :P
The retail release seems limited in Europe, I only found it on UK websites. It's expensive too (and English only).
In another timeline this game wouldn't be coming out against a ton of massive juggernauts.
I don't want to get into Zero Escape rankings, but I hope he doesn't fall back on the tricks in his older games too much. Replaying Virtue's Last Reward after playing Ever 17 is hilarious.
I don't want to get into Zero Escape rankings, but I hope he doesn't fall back on the tricks in his older games too much. Replaying Virtue's Last Reward after playing Ever 17 is hilarious.
Here's a playlist.
I personally plan to binge them right before I start playing. Did the same with the VLR OVA.
IMO, the only reason ZTD was a disappointment was becvause it was a follow up that ruined pre established characters and plot points, but in a vacuum, ZTD was still an extremely fun and exciting ride.
After Virtue's Last Reward aka the best anime game ever, AI is a day one goddamn purchase
After Virtue's Last Reward aka the best anime game ever, AI is a day one goddamn purchase
Thanks! Do you know if the ARG stuff is intended to add to the main game's story in any way? Or is it just thematically similar with no direct connections?
VLR was amazing even though it re-uses twists from Ever 17. ZTD though I understand he was constrained cause of budget. Which is a shame.
It is Uchikoshi we're dealing with here, so maybe... It might have elements in it that will carry over to the main story, but if it's anything like the last OVA, it's a means of introducing the world/characters and some of the concepts the game'll be dealing with. I've yet to watch any of them, so I'm not positive.
EDIT: Apparently, both the video series and the Twitter account have info in them related to the story. Interesting...
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VLR had its own fair share of mixed reception from 999 fans iirc. Some complaints were kinda dumb but VLR certainly had some issues they never came around to enjoy. But I think VLR is pretty well accepted overall by most people who played it.
I couldn't be more excited! I've been spreading the good word around here for months. I don't think people yet understand just how amazing this is gonna be.
I loved 999 and VLR and didn't even know it was the same guy doing AI.
I'll check it out for sure if reception is positive. ZTD was straight up bad imo, like not just mediocre.
Doesn't help though that the game doesn't appear to be available from any Australian outlets, dunno if it's digital only here or what.
I'll check it out for sure if reception is positive. ZTD was straight up bad imo, like not just mediocre.
Doesn't help though that the game doesn't appear to be available from any Australian outlets, dunno if it's digital only here or what.
I would say Marketing issue, as a huge fan of Zero Escape and someone who doesnt think ZTD was *that* bad, I dont know anything about the game other than who is making it
Huh, never knew that.
Do we know if this game has multiple writers too or is it all Uchikoshi?
I marvel at this myself. (Even more wild is the fact that Uchikoshi teamed up with fucking Kodaka (of Danganronpa fame) to write a death game and nobody even cares.)
For me, my lack of interest is probably a combination of ZTD being shit in my esteem and the fact that whatever AI is about just doesn't seem as intriguing from the outset.
It not being a death game means it's not as interesting to me either.
That said it has one of the most intricate marketing campaigns of all fucking time
For me, my lack of interest is probably a combination of ZTD being shit in my esteem and the fact that whatever AI is about just doesn't seem as intriguing from the outset.
It not being a death game means it's not as interesting to me either.
That said it has one of the most intricate marketing campaigns of all fucking time
Objectively VLR has more flaws but this still rings true. Its highs were just... Man.
Oh VLR was contentious waaay before ZTD was even teased (4infinity anyone?).
There's many reasons worth discussing for that.
With ZTD though the idea that it was way below the first two became the new point of comparison in the franchise, especially because the folks who didn't like VLR probably didn't stick around for very long to play ZTD so most of who remain liked VLR, too.
I'm extremely hype... I think the two month delay did harm it, though. It would have got more traction on the original release date.
There's been an elaborate marketing campaign / ARG running since January... This has potential to be my goty.
There's been an elaborate marketing campaign / ARG running since January... This has potential to be my goty.
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I'm excited, most if not all of my issues with ZTD have to do with it being a sequel. Since this doesn't have any baggage with it I don't have to worry about those things.
