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mreddie

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This week, a new law went into effect in Mississippi. The state now bans plant-based meat providers from using labels like "veggie burger" or "vegan hot dog" on their products. Such labels are potentially punishable with jail time. Words like "burger" and "hot dog" would be permitted only for products from slaughtered livestock. Proponents claim the law is necessary to avoid confusing consumers — but given that the phrase "veggie burger" hasn't been especially confusing for consumers this whole time, it certainly seems more like an effort to keep alternatives to meat away from shoppers.
"The plant-based meat alternative category is on fire right now, with consumers demanding healthier and more sustainable options," Michele Simon, the executive director of the Plant-Based Foods Association, said in a statement. "This law, along with similar laws in several other states, is the meat lobby's response."

"This bill will protect our cattle farmers from having to compete with products not harvested from an animal," said Mississippi Farm Bureau Federation president Mike McCormick in Januarywhen the bill passed in the Mississippi state House.
Mississippi isn't the first state to consider this. Missouri passed the first such labeling law last year, and it was challenged in court by groups including the Good Food Institute and the American Civil Liberties Union, which argued that such a "content-based, overbroad, and vague" restriction on the language companies could use to describe their products was unconstitutional. The lawsuit is now in settlement talks.

Label this an impossible thread or a beyond thread and ban it if old.
 

Tobor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Impossible and Beyond are already well branded enough that this won't cause them an issue.

Impossible patty or Impossible sandwich. Problem solved.
 

SoH

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Oct 25, 2017
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Imagine a world where the sanctity of mashing meat into a patty was tainted by... vegetables.
 

DrArchon

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Oct 25, 2017
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From the same kind of genius minds that brought you "You can't call it Almond Milk because it doesn't come from a mammal."
 

Grym

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not surprised after the mayo and milk stuff.

Enjoy your veggie patties
 

zashga

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Oct 28, 2017
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Maybe they'll go after peanut butter next. Did you know it doesn't actually contain any butter?
 

VHS

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Lol, Mississippi always leading the way in dumb crap like this
 

Damaniel

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Oct 27, 2017
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The usual states are to blame here, I see. Maybe they should spend less time trying to criminalize the use of the term burger for plant based products, and more time trying not to be a backwards, third world state.
 

THEVOID

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'd like to know if anyone has ever been confused by the product.
 

Aztechnology

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol, this usually is necessary to provide evidence that consumers are confused or mislead by vegetarian/vegan options. And consumers by and large don't seem to be confused by what and isn't real meat.
 

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When culture wars got you so shook you have to make a law to protect the sanctity of the word burger.

Onward Christian soldiers and all that Jazz, big yay to the meat industry for getting scared enough to lobby for laws like this. Really don't understand how it leaves corporate law to criminal charges, is there anything the R's can't twist and beat until it's unrecognizable?
 

Parthenios

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Oct 28, 2017
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The intent obviously isn't the same, but it's the same reasoning that keeps Velveeta from calling itself "cheese" right?

Though if you can have pork hot dogs and beef hot dogs and turkey hot dogs, it's kinda hard to say you can't have vegetable hot dogs too.

Doesn't Mississippi also have veggie farmers to lobby against this?
 

PoppaBK

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Oct 27, 2017
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"Mississippi is proud to take a stand against these confusing naming practices. Mississippians can eat their hamburgers knowing that they are 100% pork....
Wait what?....
Well that doesn't make any sense."
 

Wetwork

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Oct 27, 2017
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But, but muh free market!!! This sounds an awful like regulation.

I work in a grocery store and Beyond Burgers are flying off the shelves. Like, when we first started carrying them we'd receive a couple cases every week or two. Now it's like, 5 cases every 2 days for the burgers and 2 for each flavor of the sausages. I actually prefer them now myself.

Get fucked beef industry.
 

shadowkat

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's confusion about veggie burgers not being meat?

Really? That's what they are going with?
 

Planx

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Oct 27, 2017
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food labeling regs are good

they help way more often than hurt

it's not that hard to think of alternative names for your veggie product
They've got an alternative name. It's Veggie Burger/Meat-free burger. Nobody is buying burgers, going home, throwing them on the grill and biting in only to be shocked that they were lied to and that this is actually vegetable patty

They're always called veggie burgers or similar. The boxes for these heavily tout that they're meat-free
 

GoldenEye 007

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I wonder if this is a free speech case. Should look into that. Shithole of a state government along with their supporters.
 

Kilbane65

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Oct 27, 2017
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Veggie products manufacturers are probably loving this.
They're putting the scare on traditional food makers.
 

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Seems like a pretty clear first amendment violation. "Burger" isn't a type of meat. Nothing is being misrepresented. I expect this dumb law will be struck down.
 

itwasTuesday

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Oct 30, 2017
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Mississippi man was duped into grilling a package of vegie-burgers yesterday. He was so confused. You wouldn't believe the embarrassment he brought to his family line.

I have been told he is no longer welcome at the independence day cookout.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Republicans. They demand* industry self regulation and letting the marketplace of ideas guide us. Get government out of businesses**!

*selectively
**that give us money
 

TheBaldEmperor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can they get away with throwing in an extra letter or something? Like call it a veggie burrger. Burgger. Burgerr... lol
 

NihonTiger

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thank goodness their priorities are in the right place.

*eats a burger and drives across a bridge, which immediately collapses*
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not only is it lobbying but it is framed as people are too stupid to read.
 

Akela

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Oct 28, 2017
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"Well yes, sausages have to contain me-"

Glamorgan sausage (Welsh: Selsig Morgannwg) is a traditional Welsh vegetarian sausage for which the main ingredients are cheese (usually Caerphilly), leeks and breadcrumbs. It is named after the historic county of Glamorgan in Wales.
The earliest published mention of the dish is from the 1850s in the book Wild Wales by George Borrow, although earlier records in the Glamorgan Archives show a version which contains pork. The modern vegetarian version became popular during the Second World War when meat was harder to come by, and is now mass-produced by at least two companies. Variations include swapping the leeks for onions, as well as different herbs and spices, and various types of cheese.

Like, calling veggie foods "sausages" or "burgers" isn't even a recent thing. Strange how politicians and lobbyists are suddenly up in arms about it now as soon as people started making veggie alternatives that actually appeal to a wider audience.