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The new destiny 2 raid is something else... (Spoilers)
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putting destiny in the same sentence as janky movement... lol good joke
Destiny's raids are usually a fun time, a shame that the game is structured in such a way where doing repeat content is a pain in the ass and has worse in-game options for partying than even a basic MMORPG. I don't really miss it when you consider the premium, full featured experiences of either WoW or FFXIV.
Just avoid the LFG posts that are asking for very strict requirements, seek out the ones explicitly asking for chill people or newbies, and be upfront with your experience. That filters out 99% of the assholes. It's still a toss up of getting people who are really memey but my experience with the PC LFG discord has been with lots of people who are willing to teach to people who are willing to learn.
Or better yet join the Era discord! There are tons of people who want to run the raid and will gladly take along newbies.
tbf it does look bad because the player is using a sword for third person view and Destiny in third person does not look as good in motion as a game that's natively third person
I spoiled my self on the final boss and is Taniks the same Taniks that we kill twice in Destiny 1 Strikes @.@
The animation looks janky because third person is not the default camera view (it does make platforming easier).
And after doing Whisper of The Worm/Zero Hour mission, any platforming puzzle in Destiny looks "easy" in video than in actual practice.
The animation looks janky because third person is not the default camera view (it does make platforming easier).
And after doing Whisper of The Worm/Zero Hour mission, any platforming puzzle in Destiny looks "easy" in video than in actual practice.
I absolutely loved my time with Destiny 2 raids, when I used to do them - and getting to run them when they're still new is something else - but I just... can't deal with the commitment anymore. Too many other games to play.
I'm glad that the raids are still great for those that do have the time to run them.
I'm glad that the raids are still great for those that do have the time to run them.
why do people continue with this fucking stupid narrative.
ANYONE can do the raid. LFG discords are everywhere. Clans are easy to get into. ANYONE can do the raid.
Played Destiny since day 1 and I never got to experience any raids. Would play until endgame. Life would get in the way and I'll fall off. Maybe one day I'll get into it. I can barely keep up with FFXIV though.
Yup. I wish Bungie put this much effort into everything else, especially for solo players. I used to raid back in D1 with a great clan and when I had tons of free time, but I got a job and starting grad school soon, hard to find the time to jive with a clan and raid (been burned on LFG sites)
They could just do an LFR version of the raid for people who just want to clear it for repeats/bounties or experience the raid story. Other MMOs have what is basically the community raid and the one for the endgame power players. Destiny will likely not do this because it has that weekend warrior dad crowd pretty much locked down and they would probably go apeshit if they opened it up to a broader audience.
WoW has a LFR that works because:
* WoW has multiple difficulty levels for the content.
* WoW encounters are often nowhere near as mechanic heavy as Destiny ones. There's nothing as crazy as the final boss in DSC to be seen in WoW, and that isn't even the most mechanically intense boss in Destiny. (that'd be legit Riven)
There has been a LFR in Destiny (Guided Games), and they're really bad.
Just doing something as mechanically simple as the Season of Arrivals dual ogres public event (where you had to bring them together) was near impossible with a bunch of randoms because mechanics goes over the heads of a lot of people.
And because of that, I'm not sure it's possible for them to edit any of these raids down to an LFR level. If most people can't easily figure out group two enemies together, they ain't figuring out 99.9% of Last Wish or Garden or DSC.
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And mind, I wouldn't mind if they did have a LFR, but I'm not sure how you could remotely feasibly make a LFR version of any of these 3 raids that even remotely resemble what the raid is actually like. (as part of the point of LFR is also to let people move up the difficulty once they've done the baseline)
So I guess I'll ask how you would turn any of these 3 raids into an LFR version that is both easily completable while representing the content accurately enough to be experienced?
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It's impossible to be underleveled for Last Wish right now, it's at 1050 and you start at 1050, so go for it on an LFG. :)
Not only that but if it's anything like it was back when I was raiding in WoW, all the players will mute that stuff within the first hour and never hear it again.
That's not remotely true. Other loot games have raids with mechanics, like the Division 2, but their setting and structure ground it in a more limiting way. You aren't platforming through derelict space stations and shooting crazy giant monsters in those which lessens the spectacle, but they exist.
For destiny, it's clearly where the majority of the effort goes too. As it should considering they can only manage to release one a year now
The Destiny players are acting territorial and weird about their space magic shooty game again.
I mean, quote who you're referring to if you're going to do that.
Non-OT Destiny threads attract trolls but they also attract those who have played Destiny and have negative things to say.
Bruv, I killed Taniks, the Abomination. Can you say the same. I think not.
I like Destiny raids a lot but seeing as they're always so mechanics heavy it's hard to get into them if you're not there day one. I've never had any luck with random groups.
It can absolutely be intimating and Bungie has done literally nothing to correct this issue. And that's a shame because more people should experience their amazing Raid design.
Sure you can. Just on the second fight alone you'd have to remove the triple role buffs, lock one of the levels out entirely, remove the boss debuff mechanic and remove the wipe mechanic for hitting things in the wrong order. Cut those out, you'll have a legit WoW LFR-tier raid experience.
/Every time WoW leaves in a single mechanic that requires communication it's always the most dire thing.
My team had a strict no talking during story/lore sections so people could hear. Replaying it the 10th time sure, but this was certainly a beautiful moment in the raid for us.
I dropped Atheon off the cliff with grenades both ways in the snow and we liked it that way.
don't fuck with us destiny fans, we namedrop pixels we kill for clout
I have over 1000 hours in Destiny and still play two nights a week with my clan. So I'm going to assume I can share my opinion.
The criticisms being voiced here are valid. While I don't think there should be full on matchmaking for raids, the game needs in-game tools to help people group up.
I played on launch on console and hit a wall because every clan i joined was dead and no one was grouping for anything.
I'm looking for another game to play where I can grind to make numbers go up, but I have no interest in raiding. Does this game have a progression system without raiding/ranked pvping? Can I just grind away doing stuff and make my character stronger? Or is that still walled off?
I'm looking for another game to play where I can grind to make numbers go up, but I have no interest in raiding. Does this game have a progression system without raiding/ranked pvping? Can I just grind away doing stuff and make my character stronger? Or is that still walled off?
Blizzard upset their playerbase that was there for the raiding when they introduced LFG Raiding with basically easy mode difficulty. That lasted for hot second and players got over that. Now raiding content in the game is far more widely available and inviting than it was "back in ol' good days".
All Bungie needs to do is just bite the bullet and make "Story Mode" raiding with LFG bolted on if they want open raiding to broader Destiny audience, but I doubt they are never going to do that. They are the ones stoking whole "Raiding is hardcore shit and competition for best of the best" fire with those championship belts, jackets, emblems etc., messaging about to whom raiding is for is very loud and clear.
it's because luke smith's life apparently peaked with getting his scarab lord title in WoW and has chosen to inflict that soul-searingly boring shit on his game
I will never not be convinced the Destiny games are not a global scale case of emperors new clothes. Or stockholm syndrome. Or sunk cost fallacy.
Or something, cause whenever I see (or play, finished D1 as starved early ps4 owner) anything Destiny, it's just so bland and boring and just subpar compared to it's contemporaries. I truly just -dont- -get- why people love these games.
Same goes for vid in OP. Doesn't look like ass but also doesn't look good or fun either, at all.
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Space age slide n slash with speed and numbers? Warframe is better.
Or something, cause whenever I see (or play, finished D1 as starved early ps4 owner) anything Destiny, it's just so bland and boring and just subpar compared to it's contemporaries. I truly just -dont- -get- why people love these games.
Same goes for vid in OP. Doesn't look like ass but also doesn't look good or fun either, at all.
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Space age slide n slash with speed and numbers? Warframe is better.
Oh my God. This brought so many flashbacks. I was a warlock main so it was me who managed it the first time after trying to so long.
I still feel bad for my friend who never got a single fatebringer in dozens and dozens of runs
It is, to be fair, a very short and easy raid. Especially if you join a group as the only noob, you can probably knock it out in half an hour. You've got quite a few months with it as the relevant raid too.
Maybe you should play it instead of judging it by how it looks. I have no idea if raids look cool to onlookers, but I can tell you that playing them is amazing. They're so fun. Many expansions live or die based on them.
Doing stupid shit in Vault of Glass was more fun than any legit raid experience in Destiny 2. I'm still not sure if the dude waving his e-penis around about his raid kill was serious or not, lol.
Completely depends on the raid. Some are so mechanics heavy even for a raid fan like myself I don't enjoy them. But others are much more that combat is integral to the mechanics and it's more lax. Vault of Glass or Eater of Worlds are good examples where the mechanics are honestly pretty light. Spire of Stars was an example of one where the mechanics were just so intense and strict I did not enjoy it at all.