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The Nevers | OT | Final episodes streaming on Tubi
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What Keywork said. It sets up split factions of a sudden amount of people who happen be powerless in some way or another to be granted a unique power that has to do with what deficiency and what they choose to do with that newly found power good or ill. And then you have the political intrigue with the ruling class who are intimidated and don't like being challenged, making plays into exploiting and controlling that power. It's honestly a good setup that should be able to propel some excellent narrative arcs. There's a whole bunch of underdogs here to root for so if they can leverage that, and not make the ruling class so comically villainous and find some unexpected turns, it might turn out to be a good a great little first season.
This was watchable but it felt like Buffy/Angel/Firefly/Dollhouse with a slightly bigger budget.
Joss really never grew as an artist--and he wasn't that good to begin with--so that's why it's okay that his career is basically over.
Joss really never grew as an artist--and he wasn't that good to begin with--so that's why it's okay that his career is basically over.
Variety - TV Ratings: 'The Nevers' Delivers Best-Ever Debut for Original Series on HBO Max
"The Nevers," Joss Whedon's steampunk brainchild and HBO's latest original series, drew over 1.4 million viewers across linear telecasts and digital during its premiere on Sunday night. The show scored the best debut for a new original series on HBO Max and surpassed viewership for other popular shows on the streamer, including Misha Green's horror drama "Lovecraft Country" and David E. Kelley's psychological thriller "The Undoing." This preliminary number will likely increase significantly as viewing across HBO's platforms and additional telecasts are factored in.
"The Nevers," Joss Whedon's steampunk brainchild and HBO's latest original series, drew over 1.4 million viewers across linear telecasts and digital during its premiere on Sunday night. The show scored the best debut for a new original series on HBO Max and surpassed viewership for other popular shows on the streamer, including Misha Green's horror drama "Lovecraft Country" and David E. Kelley's psychological thriller "The Undoing." This preliminary number will likely increase significantly as viewing across HBO's platforms and additional telecasts are factored in.
This looks great! I wonder if i could sell this to my spouse as a Jane Austen costume drama lol!
This is interesting. I wonder how HBO will go about season 2 if the entire season impresses in the ratings. Definitely an awkward situation.
I certainly second the steampunk X-Men descriptions. However, having seen the first episode, I want to stress just how steampunk X-Men it seemed to me. Tagged for spoilers for Episode 1:
So, not to overstate those last three but, man, it sure did feel like a lot of Claremont era X-Men concepts were being reworked here, especially given Whedon's own history of writing for the series. Which, I should stress, isn't necessarily a bad thing - I thought the first episode was well done and will give the rest of the season a shot - but it did seem rather specifically derivative.
So, everyone has spontaneous super powers. They're not mutants per se - the setup is more akin to George R.R. Martin's Wild Cards shared universe, where it is basically straight out of the setup for that world - but an event happens and suddenly a percentage of folks have powers and/or deformaties, rather than going through a specific process to receive their powers.
The folks with powers are all at a school for gifted youngsters. Excuse me, an orphanage for the Touched.
Those folks are the good guys with powers. Another group appears that, while not directly opposed (at first) are an organized group of bad guys with powers, almost a sort of evil brotherhood if you will.
One of the characters has the power to identify people nearby with powers and fascinate them. It's not exactly Cerebro...but the "coming in future episodes" preview reel at the end of the episode seemed to show a device performing the same function which would certainly be a lot like Cerebro.
There is also the Lord Swan, James Norton's character, and his sex cult. I forget the name of said sex cult but I am getting a Hellfire Club-ish vibe off of it. Not to over state it, mind you, but it felt that way to me in the context of everything else X-Men-ish.
Likewise, Nick Frost as the Begger King and his pals seemed rather Morlockish to me.
And Lord Massen representing the government looking to crack down on the Touched gives me William Stryker/God Loves Man Kills vibes.
The folks with powers are all at a school for gifted youngsters. Excuse me, an orphanage for the Touched.
Those folks are the good guys with powers. Another group appears that, while not directly opposed (at first) are an organized group of bad guys with powers, almost a sort of evil brotherhood if you will.
One of the characters has the power to identify people nearby with powers and fascinate them. It's not exactly Cerebro...but the "coming in future episodes" preview reel at the end of the episode seemed to show a device performing the same function which would certainly be a lot like Cerebro.
There is also the Lord Swan, James Norton's character, and his sex cult. I forget the name of said sex cult but I am getting a Hellfire Club-ish vibe off of it. Not to over state it, mind you, but it felt that way to me in the context of everything else X-Men-ish.
Likewise, Nick Frost as the Begger King and his pals seemed rather Morlockish to me.
And Lord Massen representing the government looking to crack down on the Touched gives me William Stryker/God Loves Man Kills vibes.
So, not to overstate those last three but, man, it sure did feel like a lot of Claremont era X-Men concepts were being reworked here, especially given Whedon's own history of writing for the series. Which, I should stress, isn't necessarily a bad thing - I thought the first episode was well done and will give the rest of the season a shot - but it did seem rather specifically derivative.
Nailed it. I thought the first episode was boring, but it's got two more episodes to get interesting before I cast it into the void.
That's an excellent point, thanks for adding it to the list.
I'm not going to say I loved the first episode but I liked it well enough to keep going. I'm hoping that after a lot of dense setup that The Nevers has a chance to settle in and kinda be its own thing rather than X-Men pastiche. Either way, steampunk SF/fantasy is 1000% in my wife's wheelhouse so I know I'm on board for the whole thing.
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i randomly watched this on Sunday night because i was having trouble getting the first ep of Made For Love to load.
the inciting incident, revealed right at the end, seems very cool to me. had a similar vibe to FFXIII, maybe?
steampunk superheroes are not too compelling to me, though.
might watch an ep or 2 more to see if anything interesting happens at the sex club.
the inciting incident, revealed right at the end, seems very cool to me. had a similar vibe to FFXIII, maybe?
steampunk superheroes are not too compelling to me, though.
might watch an ep or 2 more to see if anything interesting happens at the sex club.
Does anyone know who the composer is? Absolutely loved the score in episode 1.
(This article mentions Amie Doherty: https://www.hbothenevers.com/post/do-we-have-our-composer-for-the-nevers. But it only credits her for one track - likely the theme)
(This article mentions Amie Doherty: https://www.hbothenevers.com/post/do-we-have-our-composer-for-the-nevers. But it only credits her for one track - likely the theme)
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Pretty much the boat I'm in. Seemed like there's some interesting corners to peel back at least and I always give new series at least 3 episodes to start running.
I didn't hate the pilot
Yeah this was by far the strangest part lol. Nick Frost not doing comedy? Wat
episode 1 is a bowl of soup of tangled yarn and mash potatoes of at least 7 different properties
due to Whedon there's no way there won't be a Kitty Pride character
due to Whedon there's no way there won't be a Kitty Pride character
just have Jane and Petre prop it up like last time might even do something crazy and get Noxon on it
Loved it,I was hooked when the automobile popped out of the Coach and when I saw the 10/15 feet girl lol... ;)
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I really enjoyed the pilot. Sigh.
Felt a little guilty about it, since the writer/director/creator has been such a creep.
Now in six episodes someone else will pick up where Whedon left off and it will probably immediately suck, just after we'd have time to appreciate wherever the story is going.
Felt a little guilty about it, since the writer/director/creator has been such a creep.
Now in six episodes someone else will pick up where Whedon left off and it will probably immediately suck, just after we'd have time to appreciate wherever the story is going.
• Power to see the future when the plot decides it
• Power to procure a gadget when you are in the tricky position
• Power to heal negating any suspense when it comes to injuries/fights
From the writing and intrigue standpoint, they didn't even bother writing the first episode well. I saw some Opera flashbacks, therefore we are going to the opera...
Also have problems with the fantasy aspect, where you just have the regular world sprinkled with impossible-miracle inventions like AI driving a chariot and nobody even bats an eye. This soft-fantasy system where nothing is established, and the plot just introduces one miracle power/invention after another to solve problems is just not interesting for me.
Combat is also CW trash-tier, with sub-second cuts and poor impacts because none of the actors are good with martial arts or stuns.
• Power to procure a gadget when you are in the tricky position
• Power to heal negating any suspense when it comes to injuries/fights
From the writing and intrigue standpoint, they didn't even bother writing the first episode well. I saw some Opera flashbacks, therefore we are going to the opera...
Also have problems with the fantasy aspect, where you just have the regular world sprinkled with impossible-miracle inventions like AI driving a chariot and nobody even bats an eye. This soft-fantasy system where nothing is established, and the plot just introduces one miracle power/invention after another to solve problems is just not interesting for me.
Combat is also CW trash-tier, with sub-second cuts and poor impacts because none of the actors are good with martial arts or stuns.
that power to heal seems weak as fuck
the seeing the future isn't even 100% b/c didn't in the pilot she saw her jump into the balcony but she never did?
also we got the full on Joker instead of kinda like the Joker character
the seeing the future isn't even 100% b/c didn't in the pilot she saw her jump into the balcony but she never did?
also we got the full on Joker instead of kinda like the Joker character
it's 3 years since it happened and seems localized to that part of the city, everyone is probably use to it by now
It isn't a Joker, it is a poor cosplayer of Bellatrix.
The way everybody was admiring the car suggests that such inventions are rare, yet THERE WAS A ROBOT DRIVING A CHARIOT.
I don't think that the show earns anything, it just had a pilot episode to showcase the party tricks, and all the conflicts felt fake as fuck to only serve showcasing those tricks. Maybe in pre-Netflix era those razzle dazzle moments could carry the show, but I don't think that it is a good show compared to today's competition.
in post-Netflix era the actual first episode is the last episode of the 1st season
Yeah that water fight was super creative. I officially love this show. The two leads are really good, and the supporting cast is better than I thought they'd be.
I also like how they don't fall into the "fantasy show has to be true to history" nonsense, although I suppose Victorian England was probably not nearly as racist as America at that time.
I also like how they don't fall into the "fantasy show has to be true to history" nonsense, although I suppose Victorian England was probably not nearly as racist as America at that time.
also in a world where there's a Pan-sexual villain and the amount of casual male on male sexuality in this first 3 episodes there's no way Amelia and Peance shouldn't have kissed in the cold open of ep 3
Agreed.
Episodes are still too long though and I hate the whole brothel storyline--it screams "Look at us, we're on premium cable."
only 6 episodes
In February 2021, HBO and HBO Max chief content officer Casey Bloys confirmed that the first season would consist of 10 episodes that would be broken in two airing blocks–due to production shutdown caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Bloys stated, "And there was kind of a natural narrative break at six. So that was the thought then was to air six episodes.