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The Muppet Show coming to Disney+ February 19th
- Thread starter KoolAid
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I think the Simpsons issue was before Disney+ or even the acquisition, like those were versions being shown on TV by Fox already. I don't think Muppet Show has had that issue.
Isn't The Simpsons the only show to be released this way? What reason do we have to suspect The Muppet Show will be affected? 🤔
I assumed the zoom for the trailer is just for the trailer's purposes.
I wonder if they fixed all the music rights issues that caused the season 4 and 5 DVDs never to be released.
Also please let this be the beginning of all the semi-lost Muppets content to finally be released. Muppets Sex & Violence, Muppet Tonight, etc. PLEASE.
I'm assuming Disney has plenty of resources to clear the licensing. Awesome news!
Ever since they recreated that opening for the The Muppets movie that came out a few years ago, I have wanted to watch this show again.
Licensing must of been an absolute bitch to clear.
Licensing must of been an absolute bitch to clear.
This is fucking amazing! My mother had these taped on vhs before i came out the womb ready to go for me.
My bet is that it's just for the marketing. If it's not I will finally throw this accursed monkey's paw away. It's never worth the wish.
Edit: This is reassuring,
So many classics, Stallone, Steve Martin, Elton John, Donna Summers, Mark Hamil, Dom Delouise
i can't even picture today's stars doing a better job than these people did on that show.
i can't even picture today's stars doing a better job than these people did on that show.
Finally getting to see Season 4 and 5 again is amazing!
Please, please let them have all the original music.
Please, please let them have all the original music.
I really really really hope this makes disney do something with The Muppet franchise.
Like I dunno, maybe have them do another variety show like this?
Like I dunno, maybe have them do another variety show like this?
I hope they're the British versions of the show, which are two minutes longer per episode. This feels like such a big moment. How right are they going to get it? Hopefully all the way right.
I can understand being gun shy on that since the last 3 or so times they tried it didn't go great (even if the content itself wasn't bad)
Yeah, I can understand that. To be fair, the Muppets Now stuff they did recently is actually pretty good.
And honestly, I dunno if the variety show format would work nowadays. I just want them to do something new with those characters.
Muppets Now wasn't awful, but I don't think the "unscripted" gimmick worked. There were lots of times where you could feel the strain of improvisation. It just was not natural. The timing was poor, the spontaneity was hit or miss, some jokes went on way too long. I think the format was fine, but The Muppets need solid scripts.
Although something The Muppet Show and Muppets Tonight had that I really liked was a sense of location. I would like any future Muppet show to retain this.
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Excite! What excellent news.
Excite! What excellent news.
I think because today's actors just don't have the charm they had back then.
It just never seems to work well with actors in the last 20 years.
Then again not everyone can be Michael Caine
Using this as a springboard to discuss Muppets themselves rather than their human guest stars: there is something to be said about how the original crew were The Muppets who created the characters and performances out of their own minds, which created very consistent and naturalistic performances. This was how you could have so many interviews with Kermit and Miss Piggy where they felt just like real people. Jim and Frank were these characters. When their understudies took over it was a change, but they'd also been doing the characters for years under the guidance of the originals. I never disliked Whitmire's Kermit and have always appreciated the way he portrayed Kermit as an aging figure. I don't think Muppets Tonight is any less magical than The Muppet Show despite all the years that had passed. The naturalistic dialog and performances by the cast gels very well with the human guest stars they had at the time who never felt like they were there for a quick bit. I will never forget Garth Brooks singing Fiddler on the Roof.
But what I'm getting at is that "The Muppets" used to be highly specialized actors and writers doing something that came very natural to them. It created very holistic and organic experiences. It was something where human stars could be inserted and not at all feel out of place among the puppets. But as we get further and further away from their peak, they feel more and more like objects being picked back up and less like living characters who have always been there. There is a difference between "The Muppets are back" and "they are doing more Muppets" to me, you know what I mean? A lot of the time modern guest stars have the same exact quality as if they're walking on a green screen. They're not present with the Muppets because the naturalism as a whole has suffered.
I think the more recent Muppet content, starting with Muppets Most Wanted and continuing into The Muppets and Muppets Now, feels like Muppets being "done" instead of Muppets just "being." This can be a very difficult thing to describe. And I am hesitant to call it Nostalgia because the first Muppet content I ever watched was the 2010 film, which spurred me to consume a lot of nonconsecutive Muppets content. There is a certain magic that is missing right now.
I believe they can get that back but it takes something they don't have right now. I wish I knew what it was.
Edit: Buncha typos.
