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Commedieu

Banned
Nov 11, 2017
15,025
I feel bad for the vfx shops. They probably already under bid this to work on it. Now they're doing crazy ot through the holidays.

We need to strike. Sure juniors will cross the lines. But it will send a message. Not sure if it's too late or if anyone would even give a shit really. Almost everyone in the credits have a union minus the people responsible for the final images. It stings. Would America care if Hollywood said fuck vfx workers, we will get china and inda to do it. We don't deserve any conditions for vfx work? Dude that makes a wooden prop that's painted out and fixed in Maya has rules to use his damn hammer...

We work till the shop shutters, effective immediately.



Edit.

Oh yeah almost forgot the levity.

"I didn't know Bethesda made movies?"
 
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Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,024
It's not life-changing. Also, make sure you've seen the stage play. I hadn't and the film does not bother to introduce any of its concepts. I didn't know what the fuck a jellical cat was and was completely lost from the moment the first song started, which was about 40 seconds after the film started.


A legit 2. Not exaggerating.

You're gonna be like, "...the fuck?" Not just because the shit is silly at every turn, but because of the abject neglect shown towards very clear and visible elements of the CG. Mouse faces and bodies, roach faces and bodies, green screen, lighting effect and shadows on the railroad tracks that the character tap dance on. It was striking when compared to the clear care they generally took with the furn and ears and shit.

Though I never could square with how the main actress was always standing in an awkward as fuck pose. And I'm still mad Jennifer Hudson got to put in like 5 serious notes with her legendary voice.
We live in a society where good or even great cgi is so common that bad cgi really sticks out.

Don't worry about Hudson, she got RESPECT coming
 
Oct 27, 2017
15,010
I feel bad for the vfx shops. They probably already under bid this to work on it. Now they're doing crazy ot through the holidays.

We need to strike. Sure juniors will cross the lines. But it will send a message. Not sure if it's too late or if anyone would even give a shit really. Almost everyone in the credits have a union minus the people responsible for the final images. It stings. Would America care if Hollywood said fuck vfx workers, we will get china and inda to do it. We don't deserve any conditions for vfx work? Dude that makes a wooden prop that's painted out and fixed in Maya has rules to use his damn hammer...

We work till the shop shutters, effective immediately.



Edit.

Oh yeah almost forgot the levity.

"I didn't know Bethesda made movies?"

As someone else mentioned, this seems too fast for new CGI to have been developed and added in. It's probably more likely that they sent out the wrong master version of the film.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
We live in a society where good or even great cgi is so common that bad cgi really sticks out.

Don't worry about Hudson, she got RESPECT coming
I hope so. The good thing about Cats is that it has no chance to harm anyone's acting career because nobody will ever see it. It's like that secret sex tape that could be embarrassing but nobody will know it exists because it's sandwiched between some awkward fetishes in pornhub.

It wasn't just the CGI either. It was the way they were carrying themselves. Posing. Looking around start-eyed. Just nah. Never again. And it was like...don't even bother unless you've seen the stage play, the lyrics aren't clear and the themes are not explained. The first song starts about 40 seconds in and doesn't let up. If you don't know what a "jellical cat" is when you sit down in your chair, guess what? You're fucked. You have to figure out what the movie is about by nothing but context clues.

I remain shocked at how poorly this was made and the contrast between something like this and Chicago is striking.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,024
I hope so. The good thing about Cats is that it has no chance to harm anyone's acting career because nobody will ever see it. It's like that secret sex tape that could be embarrassing but nobody will know it exists because it's sandwiched between some awkward fetishes in pornhub.

It wasn't just the CGI either. It was the way they were carrying themselves. Posing. Looking around start-eyed. Just nah. Never again. And it was like...don't even bother unless you've seen the stage play, the lyrics aren't clear and the themes are not explained. The first song starts about 40 seconds in and doesn't let up. If you don't know what a "jellical cat" is when you sit down in your chair, guess what? You're fucked. You have to figure out what the movie is about by nothing but context clues.

I remain shocked at how poorly this was made and the contrast between something like this and Chicago is striking.
It helps that everybody was in Cats. Might slow down Taytay's acting journey.
 

Jadentheman

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,207
honestly, i think this is cool. i wouldn't mind them fixing stuff like broken CGI or audio issues. as long as it doesn't start changing scenes and plot. i swear if i start seeing adverts like "BOOK YOUR TICKETS NOW FOR LAUNCH DAY AND WATCH EXCLUSIVE SCENE!" i will probably just stop going to the cinema.

It all started with endgame and now cats. Expect video game like patches and "DLC" to come to movie theatres lol
 

Jeff Albertson

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,672
Here's the infamous scene - it's worse than I even imagined



kindly borrowed from the spoiler thread
 
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KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,064
Oh no I'm bumping a Cats Thread, what has my life become.

But I gotta say, what happened to that patch, because I just watched the film today, and I gotta say....

Cats 1.0.1: Fixed human hand visible in one scene.

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This is still in the film, we still have Judy Denches Golden Ring visibly recognisable in the last song.

Here's the infamous scene - it's worse than I even imagined



kindly borrowed from the spoiler thread


These Cockroaches are still as horrifying as they are in this shaky cam vid. And the Mice are arguably even worse.

So where's that patch, waiting for like a sing-along version to push it through?

I think the most shocking part of the film was how long the VFX digital lists was for the film.

And for those curious, it was MPC that did the VFX, which just closed their Vancouver Division (Although I believe it was the London Division that worked on this film).
 
Oct 27, 2017
17,436
Oh no I'm bumping a Cats Thread, what has my life become.

But I gotta say, what happened to that patch, because I just watched the film today, and I gotta say....



This is still in the film, we still have Judy Denches Golden Ring visibly recognisable in the last song.



These Cockroaches are still as horrifying as they are in this shaky cam vid. And the Mice are arguably even worse.

So where's that patch, waiting for like a sing-along version to push it through?

I think the most shocking part of the film was how long the VFX digital lists was for the film.

And for those curious, it was MPC that did the VFX, which just closed their Vancouver Division (Although I believe it was the London Division that worked on this film).
The "patch" almost feels like a PR thing to trick people into thinking the movie wouldn't be as bad as it looked in ads
 

Xevren

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,560
Oh no I'm bumping a Cats Thread, what has my life become.

But I gotta say, what happened to that patch, because I just watched the film today, and I gotta say....



This is still in the film, we still have Judy Denches Golden Ring visibly recognisable in the last song.



These Cockroaches are still as horrifying as they are in this shaky cam vid. And the Mice are arguably even worse.

So where's that patch, waiting for like a sing-along version to push it through?

I think the most shocking part of the film was how long the VFX digital lists was for the film.

And for those curious, it was MPC that did the VFX, which just closed their Vancouver Division (Although I believe it was the London Division that worked on this film).

Patch went through the Monday after release, every theater should have been playing the updated version for some time now.
 

Adam_Roman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,066
Oh no I'm bumping a Cats Thread, what has my life become.

But I gotta say, what happened to that patch, because I just watched the film today, and I gotta say....



This is still in the film, we still have Judy Denches Golden Ring visibly recognisable in the last song.



These Cockroaches are still as horrifying as they are in this shaky cam vid. And the Mice are arguably even worse.

So where's that patch, waiting for like a sing-along version to push it through?

I think the most shocking part of the film was how long the VFX digital lists was for the film.

And for those curious, it was MPC that did the VFX, which just closed their Vancouver Division (Although I believe it was the London Division that worked on this film).
I was wondering that too. I saw it on the 29th and the patch allegedly rolled out December 24th, but there was still a lot of glitchiness and stuff like feet not looking like they're connecting to the ground, collars not being tracked correctly, etc.
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,958
How did these bugs get missed in the first place...? Glitches in a videogame, whatever, but shit with the cats being human in one scene and then back to their CGI in the next...? That'd be like if an actor appeared naked in one scene randomly in the middle of a movie.

I really love that the Cats movie is a thing. When I was a kid we used to listen to the CATS album in the car on road trips... I don't even know why my mom was into it, but she was, and so it was either CATS or Carly Simon. And like a generation of young people grew up not knowing that torture or being confused about how bizarre CATS was. I thought CATS was so swierd when I as a kid, but it was something my mom liked so like... I didnt try to understand why she liked it, just thought, like, well, it's one of those weird things adults like. I'm glad this movie got made.
 
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Ottaro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,524
Saw this on new years eve and Judi Dench's hand still looked like that.
Either that was never actually part of the patch, or they were still screening the old release.
 

Linkura

Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,943
How did these bugs get missed in the first place...? Glitches in a videogame, whatever, but shit with the cats being human in one scene and then back to their CGI in the next...? That'd be like if an actor appeared naked in one scene randomly in the middle of a movie.

I really love that the Cats movie is a thing. When I was a kid we used to listen to the CATS album in the car on road trips... I don't even know why my mom was into it, but she was, and so it was either CATS or Carly Simon. And like a generation of young people grew up not knowing that torture or being confused about how bizarre CATS was. I thought CATS was so swierd when I as a kid, but it was something my mom liked so like... I didnt try to understand why she liked it, just thought, like, well, it's one of those weird things adults like. I'm glad this movie got made.
It was very, very rushed to reach the target release date.
 

Kurdel

Member
Nov 7, 2017
12,157
How did these bugs get missed in the first place...? Glitches in a videogame, whatever, but shit with the cats being human in one scene and then back to their CGI in the next...? That'd be like if an actor appeared naked in one scene randomly in the middle of a movie.

I really love that the Cats movie is a thing. When I was a kid we used to listen to the CATS album in the car on road trips... I don't even know why my mom was into it, but she was, and so it was either CATS or Carly Simon. And like a generation of young people grew up not knowing that torture or being confused about how bizarre CATS was. I thought CATS was so swierd when I as a kid, but it was something my mom liked so like... I didnt try to understand why she liked it, just thought, like, well, it's one of those weird things adults like. I'm glad this movie got made.

My only context for cats were the commercials from when I was young, but I am also glad they made this movie.

I was expecting 2 hours of that cockroach eating scene, but the whole movie was WAY tamer than that, and I actually enjoyed it! It's a shame the faces are so bad and this of all movies will now be infamous as THE TERRIBLE MOVIE for the next 5 years.
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,958
My only context for cats were the commercials from when I was young, but I am also glad they made this movie.

Aaah yes the CATS commercials... I think in the late 90s CATS did a secondary theatre tour after broadway an they advertised the fuck out of that during every break, "EXPERIENCE THE MAGIC AND MYSTERY OF ....... CATS..." (and then the Mister Mistopheles song would play). I didn't get it then, I don't get it now, but I'm happy it exists.
 

Kurdel

Member
Nov 7, 2017
12,157
Aaah yes the CATS commercials... I think in the late 90s CATS did a secondary theatre tour after broadway an they advertised the fuck out of that during every break, "EXPERIENCE THE MAGIC AND MYSTERY OF ....... CATS..." (and then the Mister Mistopheles song would play). I didn't get it then, I don't get it now, but I'm happy it exists.

Those ads definitely scared my childhood lol

The costumes looked like they were out of a horror movie to me, these horny CG versions are way less terrifying despite having their own brand of inhuman terror, that I got used to after like an hour of watching it.
 

Linkura

Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,943
Aaah yes the CATS commercials... I think in the late 90s CATS did a secondary theatre tour after broadway an they advertised the fuck out of that during every break, "EXPERIENCE THE MAGIC AND MYSTERY OF ....... CATS..." (and then the Mister Mistopheles song would play). I didn't get it then, I don't get it now, but I'm happy it exists.
I only know that song because of the commercials, lmao.
 
Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
My only context for cats were the commercials from when I was young, but I am also glad they made this movie.

I was expecting 2 hours of that cockroach eating scene, but the whole movie was WAY tamer than that, and I actually enjoyed it! It's a shame the faces are so bad and this of all movies will now be infamous as THE TERRIBLE MOVIE for the next 5 years.
bruh what
 

TrashHeap64

Member
Dec 7, 2017
1,675
Austin, TX
Shame that the only copy of the original, non edited version is going to be bootlegs. It'd be nice if they included it in the Blu-ray but that's very unlikely
 

Kurdel

Member
Nov 7, 2017
12,157

Just for some context, I really enjoy watching B movies and actively seek out bad movies, was dissapointed this wasn't as nuts and terrible as people were saying. Some great songs, an amazing dance number, everyone seems to be having fun, I don't have the energy to act all shocked by this after months of trailers and memes.

The cockroach scene is the absolute peak madness, nothing even comes close to it, unfortunately.

When your expectations are so low, that you actually see a mildly passing movie, in which you find yourself watching a cat lottery cult; you're like, well that wasn't that bad.

Exactly! I went there expecting the worlds biggest LEGENDARY turd, kinda dissapointed in that regard!