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The most expensive new Mac Pro configuration costs $52,599, half of which is RAM. ( it will play Crysis at 1080i)
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We had a few of the maxed out older trashcan models at the last motion studio I worked for rendering.
These things really do pay for themselves after a year or so if you are saving 2 - 4 billable hours per day per employee or, more importantly, freelancers who need to have their worked checked out every night or morning. I was actually kind of peeved when they got them since my downtime for goofing around was cut in half.
These aren't for consumers or prosumers. The alternative is using render farms which aren't as effective or cheap unless your work focuses on longer run videos.
These things really do pay for themselves after a year or so if you are saving 2 - 4 billable hours per day per employee or, more importantly, freelancers who need to have their worked checked out every night or morning. I was actually kind of peeved when they got them since my downtime for goofing around was cut in half.
These aren't for consumers or prosumers. The alternative is using render farms which aren't as effective or cheap unless your work focuses on longer run videos.
As someone who lives in AE every day...I can say this thing is almost exclusively for Video Editors in Final Cut or people doing some crazy stuff in Logic maybe. After Effects is garbage at utilizing cores unfortunately : /
Maybe compositing apps like Nuke and whatnot would run great on here though too! Definitely not affordable, I wish they would make a Prosumer tower that was modular like this...
Didn't look like anyone really answered you.
ECC RAM is typically used in servers. It has error correction for bit-swapping built into the stick itself. It's for protection against something like a solar flare. It's expensive due to the extra components, and that it's for enterprises that will pay for it.
Yes, that's the point. It's an enterprise level machine.
Here, configure a Dell 7920 with the same specs, you'll hit more than 60k.
As I said before, this is not out of the ordinary at all.
Well this is also true, someone who knows their software can get a machine that will simply perform better than the Mac Pro. After Effects likes faster CPUs, and as you said it, not great at utilizing many cores.
At the end of the day I have to agree with the argument that it is not for individuals, but for a company that just tries to covers all the bases for potential employees even thought the machine is not the best at any particular thing.
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Yeah, and the argument pretty much holds up! I remember using the old cheese grater at previous jobs that were pretty obscenely loaded, at least it came in handy for me sometimes doing simulation stuff too! I just miss being able to use OSX for work stuff though ;(
This seems like a rather off-putting comment considering this is an incredibly mild joke.
Why do you think the thread was created because of a problem lol
Weird take
I was just building one of these today but then I found out Steam is still not supported which seems crazy so I would have no way to play Half Life Alyx and now I'm so torn
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Steam works on Catalina. Is there some other reason specific to the new Mac Pro?
It does!? Oh man I thought Half Life Alyx wasn't listed as compatible. This changes everything
As a member of the apple computer universe can i make a shitpost thread about how black panther 2 is only going to have a cgi budget of 12 dollars, when that movie comes out?
not sure they have announced a Mac version of half life alyx, but you could always just load windows on it.
Steam is a separate thing as HL:A. Steam as the application itself works in Catalina. HL:A is not confirmed to anything but Windows (as it uses SteamVR), but it might be compatible later on as Linux should get SteamVR support soon(tm), which should also help for MacOS.
Absolute lunacy. The hold Apple have on their customers is both cynical and insidious.
Shrug. I work with 3D. The computer I am on at work (in other words right now) is a bit above half that, and I don't work for an internationally known animation studio.
This is for high end professional work. It'd be the same as consumers looking to buy higher end Dell Precision desktops.
People whose time saved is worth the cost of investment. If you are a professional who relies on computing power to make a living, and you can get an adequate return on investment for buying this machine, then it is for you.
People like MKBHD (who is obviously a business, but that's beside the point) who edit and transcode / render a lot of 8K footage and will get a return on investment in terms of time saved.
What Mac Pro benchmarks are you comparing to these?
Already beaten by TR3, and not even by a chip that's in the same price segment lol.
I would not expect the passively cooled Xeon W in the Mac Pro to be a fast as a W-3175X.
These are older benches from the 3970X launch, and you're right the mac pro will likely be much more thermally constrained.
This is an ultimate drive by shit post. It also makes no sense
The warning I got yesterday indicates to me that not all mods agree with all executions of humor.
FWIW I giggled at the Crisis joke.
It's impracticable for almost everyone and a very high price for even those who require this type of workstation. Apple is not intending this for gaming, which nonetheless means...
This is why Toyota will always win. Rot in hell, CAT.
This is why Toyota will always win. Rot in hell, CAT.
Already beaten by TR3, and not even by a chip that's in the same price segment lol.
Cool synthetic benchmarks of individual CPUs from a tech blog. Export a 90 minute feature film timeline to prores or DCP (Resolve Windows can't even do this), or render 5-6 VFX comps in a cramped, stuffy studio during an LA summer and get back to me. That's what this type of computer was made for
I'm really disappointed the Afterburner is only compatible with the mac pro. It would be such a valuable tool out in the field with laptops, inside a thunderbolt 3 chassis, to provide real time rendering/playback of prores footage and take a load off the CPU/GPU that's already throttled somewhat in macbooks
You literally have no idea what you're talking about
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RAM is a traded commodity, heavily protected by various national interests and the market has damn near open price fixing, along with small profit margins. Most of your high capacity ECC chips will just get thrown out/recycled into the new batch because the lithography didn't hold up, which is unavoidable. The logic of how RAM works in the market is basically different from all other computer hardware.
I can't wait until people find out how expensive high end server hardware is, which is basically what the Mac Pro is. As someone who works in IT and handles the configuration and purchasing of computer hardware, nothing about the Mac Pro pricing is ridiculous aside from maybe the monitor stand. This computer is a tool to assist with very specific tasks, not a computer that's being sold to everyone for email and light photo editing.
Can you even play crysis on a mac?
If I open Steam I think the newest game is like Team Fortress 2 and Borderlands 1
If I open Steam I think the newest game is like Team Fortress 2 and Borderlands 1
It's faster than the xeon chip in every way, please show me any kind of load that the xeon succeeds in because I'd love to hear about it. Even considering the tests these are very real programs
And considering that it's able reach that kind of performance while outputing 100W less than the intel chip, it would do just fine in your "stuffy studio during an LA summer"
I have no idea why you'd get so upset, it's merely an observation of how Apple stumbled into bad luck with CPU releases, although they probably would have stuck intel regardless, considering they have better ties in the workstation space. Is this an apple fan thing?
I'm not upset, just don't really understand why synthetic benchmarks would be indicative of real world performance. Do you? We're not even considering the fact that they might prefer Intel for business reasons or for Thunderbolt compatibility. Or AVX 512 which I don't really think is a big deal for most users but still.
PS- reported for the "apple fan" thing. I'm tired of platform warring going largely unchecked in tech topics.
I could report you for being weirdly aggressive for no reason, but that seems awfully unncessary. I don't really care who the puts out the hardware, and I'm not saying Apple is an awful company in any way.
Anyway, there are other benches with the 3970X succeeding in both handbrake and premiere.
