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Microsoft is on the record that the baseline for the Zen2 CPU in the Series X is running at 3.8 Ghz with SMT Off (No HT, 3.6 Ghz if devs want to enable SMT). The fact that the requirements chart shows the 9700k (has no HT) , I'd wager The Medium is running 6/7c on the XSX
360 had some GPU features that were yet to be included in PC GPUs (unified shaders) and was almost as performant as top GPUs, but by the time PS3 came out in late 2006, GF8800GTX was running circles around both consoles.
Agreed. I am expecting bad performance across PC and console, the gameplay video from a week ago was super rough.
I mean yea. If you can't guarantee SSD, you preload and cache with larger RAM, and the I/O problem is mostly solved.
As you replace your broken monocle and clean your mouth from the justified vomit rage, youll realize those are specs reccomendations. There has been no confirmation of a limit of 30fps on pc.
On a GTX 1060 6GB. Can only run this at minimum settings. I'll probably skip this one unfortunately.
Exactly, but we already have the 3080 and 3090 beating consoles. I don't think we'll ever see another generation like it used to be with everything coalescing under x86. Not until we see some ARM power house at least, that could be something.
The console I/O could be comparable, but I'm not convinced they're as transformative to the experience.
I'm hoping my 3080 lasts 4 years at 1440p, it should, but RTX is so damn expensive that I feel like any game without DLSS is gonna have to have RTX off to play at 60 fps
I don't think you'll see many games with heavy ray tracing without support for DLSS. The two go hand in hand and I think there's general acceptance that DLSS is necessary when enabling RT.
It's what makes AMD's abysmal RT performance all the more of an issue. Slow RT and no DLSS just means that very few are ever going to enable RT (outside of maybe shadows or mirror reflections) on AMD cards as the performance hit is just too much. It feels more like a token feature than something actually useful to anyone. A spec sheet tick box more than a genuine attempt to deliver real time ray tracing at acceptable performance.
With how terrible AMD's RT performance seems to be, I fully expect to see cut down ray tracing in most titles.
DLSS is typically present where RT has been so far so hopefully that trend continues as well, it'll certainly help a lot.
This is less a performance question but going off that Nvidia video posted earlier in the thread does The Medium allow you to focus on one world at a time and swap your view between the two or is it constantly showing dual view? The latter is an interesting concept in theory but I can see it end up annoying me if we're stuck with it for general exploration, not a fan of sacrificing screen real estate like that for the entirety of a playthrough.
Devs confirmed that you can turn 30fps limit off, but based on those specs, there isn't hardware that can run at above 30fps.
I certainly hope to get more than 30FPS out of my 3080. These are some Cyberpunk 2077 ass requirements.
Seriously doubt that. Especially if there are resolution options. Well see at release.
Can't wait to murder my laptop and run from danger at 10 fps. I've got a weird affection for bloober's games, jank and all. Part of it is probably how endearing it is to me that they named their studio "BLOOBER" for fuck's sakes. Come fight me, trapezoid head!
Given it can scale down to a GTX 1060 - I'd be surprised if it was impossible to run at above 30fps on significantly faster cards. You can turn down settings and resolution...
I suspect the game may struggle in general at higher framerates though given the developers suggestion that '30fps is more cinematic'.
It can run without SMT but with a bit higher clocks, it's a choice for developer. A game which needs more ST performance than threads will likely use this mode.
Same GPU here, so looks like I will have to skip it too for now.
I will be honest and say I somewhat forgot about the 360 and it having unified shaders before GPUs. As someone pointed out, the PS3's release had PC in a better position so I think that's what my memory was recalling.
I will standby though my claim that this generation has a far better tech spec punch on launc, especially with how"future proof" it could be thanks to the SSD inclusion. Obviously there will be developers offering up complex scenes, or worse yet ones with horrible optimisation in hopes of cramming their game into the system to just work. However, I'm hopeful we see some truly stunning games like this one, with two completely intact worlds being rendered at once.
Personally I argue that RT is still in its infancy when it comes to video game usage. Yes it looks prettt, but the sheer toll on FPS you take just turning it on is tremendous. Of course DLSS is there to help rectify that to a degree, but it's still not worth that trade off to me yet.
Not to mention that, again in my opinion, by turning on RT you are losing out on performance and in some way reducing the capability of cards that cost an arm and a leg. It's pretty sure, but I think I am in the position of just not caring for pretty light reflections to increase atmosphere. For me that can be achieved for art style or higher quality models/textures.
I did buy a 6800XT, however this isn't me defending the performance RT gets on those cards. AMD now has the support there, and much like Nvidia's 2000 series, it'll build on that and grow. Yes it's disappointing but least we got some cards that actually pack a punch on their own without RT.
Why would they show 30fps requirements?
No PC gamer is ever going to want to play at 30 unless they really, really, really have to.
No PC gamer is ever going to want to play at 30 unless they really, really, really have to.
I think it's only going to be indie games on PC for me until I upgrade it in a couple of years lol.
Did you try Miles Morales with performance RT? The world felt flat in perfomance mode vs quality mode, performance RT mode is straight up witchcraft. The lighting off diffuse surfaces really make the streets more lifelike.
It's a game that renders two scenes simultaneously (with different textures, lighting, and shadows). It was always going to be very demanding.
Sorry to say, but that GPU isn't going to run many new games from here on out.(my 1050 ti laptop is in the same boat, even war zone at this point requires a lot of tinkering to get 60 fps locked).
With consoles having a baseline of 2070 superish specs, expect requirements to jump drastically in the next year or so.
Yeah that does seem to be the case. RT also at this point isn't worth it performance cost wise. If I can get 60 fps in Single Player games with DLSS Quality I'll leave it as is, but games like CoD I will prioritize pushing 144 fps over RT every time.
I know RT is the future, but it's still not at a good performance cost to visuals ratio yet and the only reason it is viable at all is DLSS.
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None of that does much for CPU load though. If these requirements were accurate it would be impossible to hit 60fps as no CPU can deliver 2x game performance as the ones mentioned in the requirements. Thankfully these requirements are almost never very accurate.
Mostly yes, but if we go into not very well optimized games like this one or Cyberpunk, it's getting hard to maintain 60FPS WQHD for certain games. And those will only become more.
But like I said, I'm mostly fine. These are by far the exception and not the rule.
I just started watching the 14 minute video, and man, they really went for those Silent Hill 2 vibes. I don't have much faith in the story or the splitscreen gameplay though. Nevertheless I'll gladly give it a try through gamepass.
Double these and you'll get to 60.
But I really doubt that this will actually be the case.
That would only be the case if the requirements aren't accurate. If you're GPU bound then that just means a slower CPU would suffice to get the same results. In other words you wouldn't actually need a CPU as powerful as the ones listed in the OP.
1060 as minimum?! What? I guess this one is for PS5 on sale. Got PC game pass but i doubt a 1660ti laptop can run this well.
It's dangerous to promise 60fps in the system requirements anyway.
Might as well under-promise with 30fps targets and let people figure out how to scale up from there.
The 1660 Ti's lack of tensor cores is really going to hurt its longevity versus the 2060.
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