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The Mandalorian - Season 2 |OT| Wherever I go, he goes [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP]
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No....you're not stuck with the same thing at all. On anything but THE most surface level reading of the events.
-A possible empire vs. an undermanned group of freedom fighters.
Jakku is a planet where people come and go constantly. The reason Rey became a SW nerd was because of her conversing with many different people about the history and legends in the galaxy. A small detail, Rey understands Chewie, and multiple languages. She's not a shy or a loner. She just keeps to herself. Two entirely different concepts. It's not that everyone knew who Luke specifically was. But he did have a legend. Remember, in new canon Luke didn't go ham and create a new jedi order right off the bat while deeply involving himself with politics. He kept to himself to research jedi lore. The legend stuff was entirely out of his control.
Are you SURE about that?
100%
Skip season 1. You can start at season 2. That said, if you follow this, it truly skips nearly ALL of the bad episodes and would also work just fine:
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This is the sorta thing comics and books have actually done pretty regularly but nothing animated or live action has touched. Not sure why there's a discrepancy there. TV/Film don't get nearly as creative with the Force/sabers as anything else.
Obviously not intended in ESB, but I do wonder if there's enough meat to the bone of Yoda so believing in the Chosen One prophecy that he literally never considered someone like Ezra or Grogu as a potential saviour.
I think that sound is why I haven't seen anyone dislike the name yet online. It's like Pavlov's Dog. We can't hate it because it's immediately followed by a good thing.
I'm guessing the allegations but to that point:
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Her story continues in novel form: https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Disciple-Star-Christie-Golden/dp/1101884959
If you just want to know...
If you just want to know...
She dies.
He meant Cal Kestis.
Citation needed. And no, I don't care about some EU book or movie novelization or comic book, I only care about the films.
Again, FN-2187 knew who Luke Skywalker was, a brainwashed slave baby. Those little kids on Crait knew who he was and were Rebel Alliance fans. Luke's legend was galactic, that's the whole point of TLJ, that his legend grew beyond his reality. So, it's not possible for Ahsoka to not know who he is at this point, that would be pure foolishness from a former intelligence agent.
Mando not hearing of his legend is equally dumb, but can be somewhat explained away due to his cult. But think about this, Mando is so versed and traveled he speaks Tusken. This is noteworthy because Tusken Raiders NEVER leave Tatooine, so he could have only learnt their language and customs by spending plenty of time on Tatooine, you know the place where Luke SKYWALKER grew up. And, he never once heard the name in connection with the massive Galactic Civil War he helped end? Come on now. The villagers all the way is Mos Pelgo had holo-footage of the Death Star 2.0 getting blown up and they lived out in the middle of absolute nowhere on Tatooine, yet I bet even they heard of Luke fucking SKYWALKER.
It truly makes zero sense from an in-universe perspective that Dinn, a Mandalorian whose culture values great warriors, is not at all interested in the warrior that defeated the greatest foes in the Empire. Of course, the real reason is because the show works best with him completely ignorant of the Jedi and Luke so new viewers can have exposition dumped on them and Mando doesn't automatically know what the deal with Grogu is from the start. You can excuse such writing to setup the series, I could not excuse such writing for Ahsoka. But, we still don't know much at all what she knows, what she's been doing, if she's ever met Luke, if she even still considers herself a non-Jedi or if she's re-joined and just doing her own thing.
The weird thing is she says to go to Tython and place Grogu on the stone and if a Jedi senses him they'll reach out, but that implies she knows other Jedi are out there. The only Jedi she knew to escape the purge that she actually met were Kanan and Ezra and she knows they gone. So, is she just playing games because she doesn't want to bring up Luke or does she truly not know that Luke is out there and seeking to rebuild the Order (which would be dumb)?
If and only if Sabine shows up this season, I'm surprised that the actress hasn't been leaked yet.
I don't think we're seeing Ashoka again in this season, which would explain why Sabine didn't get leaked.
1. Maybe I missed something in your argument, but it's entirely likely that people know who Rebel hero Luke Skywalker is but do not know Rebel Hero Luke Skywalker is a Jedi unless they've worked with or around him. Blowing up the Death Star isn't an inherently Jedi thing, and while he uses a lightsaber he's not running into battle with it like they did in the Clone Wars.
2. Between Mando and TFA I believe is when Luke starts his training school and Leia's relation to Vader is discovered galaxy-wide, so not only is it more likely people 25 years out know more than Mando does, that's more time for the legend to expand.
3. As for the temple, someone else noted it's a win win for Ashoka. Either there are other Jedi out there and the Force will guide the right one, or it won't and Grogu won't grow up with training and will be far less dangerous.
I think Ahsoka will show up again. Possibly the final episode.
because of the really nasty allegations of transphobia. which:
Plaintiff withdraws 18 of the 20 accusations against Rosario Dawson in transphobic harrassment lawsuit News
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I had not seen this yesterday! this is encouraging, at least
I hope y'all are right but the ending felt very final, at least for this season.
If she is she can be wearing a helmet and be cast later on though, which might prevent a leak. VO could be done by her original actress if they don't anticipate having to use her in live action going forward.
That was the best ep of the show, so far.
A few thoughts.
Grogu, is a predictably adorable name. LOL.
I didn't realise it was Michael Biehn at first, and before he spoke, i thought it was Peter Weller. LOL.
Speaking of Michael Biehn. i wish he had a better part. Felt like he was wasted.
Which is a shame, as i think he's a good actor.
Even putting aside, that i think Ashley Eckstein should have been cast. I did not like Rosario Dawson's interpretation. At all.
Felt off, in a way i can't fully articulate, at the mo.
A few thoughts.
Grogu, is a predictably adorable name. LOL.
I didn't realise it was Michael Biehn at first, and before he spoke, i thought it was Peter Weller. LOL.
Speaking of Michael Biehn. i wish he had a better part. Felt like he was wasted.
Which is a shame, as i think he's a good actor.
Even putting aside, that i think Ashley Eckstein should have been cast. I did not like Rosario Dawson's interpretation. At all.
Felt off, in a way i can't fully articulate, at the mo.
Or. We can just cast this guy.My first choice for Thrawn is definitely Tobius Menzies (from The Crown, Outlander an GOT):
Mind blown.
Dude had such a powerful role in this ep, brief though it was.
If Sabine ever shows up I really hope they go with something different than her S4 Epilogue look.
Go with the unused concepts for that iteration
Go with the unused concepts for that iteration
Ehh. I'm not sure about that. You know what LF is like, when it comes to that stuffs.
Skytalkers is fun and I liked the Binge Mode Star Wars series
I was like you are going to name your kid Grogu.
Dog is a good name choice.
I know a shitload of people are going to name their kid Grogu
She never lived past the clone wars. She started to have an affair with a jedi knight who had turned to the dark side and on his final mission to test his loyalty
Trust and believe i'm not making fun of you for having OCD. I would never do that.
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It has nothing to do with OCD. But everything to do with a lack of art literacy.
How else would Rey know how to speak Wookie? TFA/TLJ----->show don't tell
The FO's entire MO was killing Luke Skywalker, ofc Finn would know who he is. And by that time 30 years have passed. We're only five years past the death of Palpatine in Mando.
I doubt most people knew where Luke was from. It's a massive stretch in TROS that Rey found his home as an example.
Genuinely imagine how clunky the exposition dump would be if she explained everything about herself and what she's been up to to a complete stranger. I think you seriously overestimate the amount of clout the jedi had in the galaxy while severely underestimating the effect that two decades worth of propaganda will have on the perception and/or erasure of an order.
It's been years since the events of Rebels. Which ended years before a new hope. And Luke is still around searching for jedi lore, he's not a public figure.
I bet we'll see ghost Yoda when Grogu is on Tython...
And we'll get "I'm your father" moment with Yoda, and Grogu first word will be Nooooo! Lol
And we'll get "I'm your father" moment with Yoda, and Grogu first word will be Nooooo! Lol
You are stuck with the same thing.
You mentioned it yourself.
Empire vs. freedom fighters
That's a funny way of not only downplaying someone's opinion but also perpetuating stigma against neurodiversity; I've seen this before.
Fine, I believe you.
Again, that's incredibly surface level. Look at the subtext.
Thanks both! Super helpful. Will skip past Season 1.
I understand your point there but tbf the show makes it a point that she's woefully under-qualified for that role and only really grows into it after several of being mentored which is why rex initially doesn't like her. Ultimately the reason she's even in that role is that the Jedi are a messed up organisation and the fact she was literally raised as child soldier is why she left the order after realizing she was expendable. Basically any Jedi Padawan automatically had that rank because the Jedi were seen by default as better warriors and show doesn't treat the fact 14 year old leading a army as good thing considering the whole thing was a slow burn tragedy.
22 for a war hero isn't strange considering Anakin was considered a genius (though that clearly wasn't obvious in the PT itself). Napoleon was a general at age 24.
The Luke thing yeah it's strange but the plot I mean the force was guiding him.
I meant in general that SW characters tend to skew younger because the target audience isn't people in their 30s, it's children-young adults. So measuring up accomplishments via age doesn't really work because no one in SW is aged in a grounded manner.
It's true and it's common in many teen/young age focused adventures. Only real difference is some stories try harder to justify it (whether they're successful is another question) and some less so but the reasons why are the same.
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The fact that the "subtext" relies on repeating story beats from the OT is telling, no offense.
Again, the ST is about SW itself and what it means to people.
It's actually more straightforward than that. Back in The Clone Wars, when Yoda went on that great spiritual journey to the heart of the galaxy, he was basically told by the Force that the war against the Sith was already lost but there would be another Skywalker, who would one day defeat them. So Yoda believed that only a Skywalker would ever be able to defeat Anakin, something that I assume made more sense to him when Luke and Leia were born, which is why he waited on Dagobah for them. I don't think he particularly cared which one of them got there first and he probably hoped to train them both, but essentially he spent the last decades of his life believing in what the Force had told him.