Ocarina of Time, which had a little of this logic (catch the blue flame with... a bottle).
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The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening |OT| Open Your Eyes
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Never feel bad about Eagle Tower. That dungeon has always been a mind melter for most. The way it's set up with multiple floors and navigating the steel ball throughout is a unique albeit confusing one at times.
Back in the original, I was completely stuck there for like a month, to the point that I figured out a way to bypass completing it and got through the final dungeon of the game before finally coming back to it. Figuring it out one fateful day was a highlight of my childhood.
That puzzle in dungeon 2 was kinda cryptic and badly worded.
Neither enemy description was what I thought it was.
Neither enemy description was what I thought it was.
I still remember getting stuck at a specific point in that dungeon. I kept thinking about the room / puzzle I was stuck on and one day I finally figured it out in my head. It was bed time so I wasn't able to try it out right away so I drew my solution on a piece of paper and laid it on the floor between my bed and my door so I wouldn't forget about it or lose it!
Tried it out after school the next day and beat the dungeon. I felt like Albert Einstein.
I had to brute-force it because I skipped the room with the beak in it so I didn't get the clue.
Thankfully the error beep after killing the last enemy reminded me that there was a puzzle like that.
I'm not sure how other Zelda games handle the map and compass mechanic but sometimes I wish the compass would show rooms with keys that do not come from chests.
I had to look for a last key twice now after I had already opened all the chests and forgot about a single room that I couldn't do the mechanic in because when I first went through the room I was still missing the dungeon item. The room would show up as explored on the map but there was still a key that can drop.
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I definitely think the foundations are there for a zelda maker now. Just need a chamber designer mode with its own set of criteria for when a chamber is 'complete'. I just don't know if it's be fun enough for a whole game.
Edit: mogster7777 id say 10 hours if you know broadly what you're doing or 15 hours if not. That assumes taking a decent amount of time for optional content.
Edit: mogster7777 id say 10 hours if you know broadly what you're doing or 15 hours if not. That assumes taking a decent amount of time for optional content.
Yeah. I think it could be done. Make rooms square. Let us choose from predefined textures (from various other 2D Zelda games).
Add some basic logic that checks if a dungeon can be beat and have the user beat the dungeon before uploading it (like in Mario Maker).
Let us place various enemies with predefined behaviors. Let us add multiple floors with basic steps or 2D subareas like in LA connecting them. Maybe even have holes in floors that drop you to the floor beneath. That could potentially lock you in a room without an exit but I think the Mirror to get back to the dungeon entrance should automatically be in your inventory.
There could be a standard selection of items that you could put in your dungeons and you could configure with which items the player starts off with.
There's a ton of potential here. I'm sure Nintendo could figure it out.
I can't tell if it was subconscious memory from when I last played it twenty years ago (Jesus) or that I just sussed out that doing stuff in a certain order is a Zelda trope, but I really was not hung up on it that long.
The real thing that got me stuck in that dungeon where the shy guy enemies. Playing Baba is You made me overcomplicate it to a wild degree.
The game's design has aged a little bit. And the game's strengths have been done again and again so it's not as powerful a first impression as it used to be. Still you can't find a more whimsical Zelda game as this one.
The power of the MIDI. Still there are advantages to orchestral score compared to this one.
Your first mistake was going into it as anything other than a "Game Boy game". Yes, it's got the modern sheen, but at its core it's still based on...pretty primitive tech and the limitations therein. And as a remake it's gonna honour its source material than try anything dramatic with, as you say, archaic and occasionally cryptic/dubious design choices.
Hope you still liked a few things in it! 🙃 👍
And hopefully they take on the Oracle Series one day; the difference between LA and OoA/OoS is about 10 years[!!] apart and surprisingly it's a much more polished experience despite being on the same hardware.
Maybe 15+ hours if you've not played any of the Game Boy versions before.
I'd love to give those games another shot. Back then I only managed to buy OoS and I'm not even sure I've finished that.
I'm not quite finished with LA, yet but I feel comfortable enough to revisit my comparison between LA and ALTTP.
I've played and finished both games back in the days. I've replayed ALTTP dozens of times since then. I've only revisited LA once or twice since then.
After refreshing my mind on it again I feel comfortable enough to say that I still prefer ALTTP over LA.
LA is an incredible achievement if you remind yourself that this is basically a Game Boy game and it's easily one of my top 3 Zelda games but it just can't beat ALTTP.
Sorry, Bosman!
Finished the game today. Never played the original.
Overall it's pretty good, but I had a lot of issues with it.
Dungeons 7 and 8 were overall just a slog. Not very fun.
The writing in general is super weird and stilted. I assume this is because they had limited screen space so could only write a couple of dumb lines?
Also yeah the performance sucked throughout. Really disappointing.
generally it's a good game but definitely not my favourite zelda by a long shot
Overall it's pretty good, but I had a lot of issues with it.
Dungeons 7 and 8 were overall just a slog. Not very fun.
The writing in general is super weird and stilted. I assume this is because they had limited screen space so could only write a couple of dumb lines?
Also yeah the performance sucked throughout. Really disappointing.
generally it's a good game but definitely not my favourite zelda by a long shot
I mean you can still have an orchestral score and still retain that punchiness, see ALBTW. The jingles especially all retain that wonderful lively feel. But man, it's so low energy and dull in this remake.
Edit : I stand corrected, I thought albtw was orchestrated, but I guess not.
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I don't find it dull but I understand what you're saying. It's kind of a small room-scale orchestra but I think it suits the concept of the remake perfect - it's not meant to be bombastic or epic, but a dream-like, miniature toy experience.
You could not have with the original ost - but each has its pros and cons.
Hrm kind of interesting. If folks are losing their shit to Eagle Tower and Turtle Rock, boy the oracle games would give them a run for their money.
I know it's nothing but my links awakening collectors edition came with a tear in the top corner of the box art on the spine : (
long chance but Nintendo won't replace that will they? In Australia so probably even worse chances.
It shits me as well because there is no age rating or anything on the box so I can't simply replace the case. Oh well a few days and my ocd will subside I guess
long chance but Nintendo won't replace that will they? In Australia so probably even worse chances.
It shits me as well because there is no age rating or anything on the box so I can't simply replace the case. Oh well a few days and my ocd will subside I guess
I'm four dungeons in (first three levels, plus Color Dungeon), and this is still the best-playing, most tightly-paced and beautifully designed 2D Zelda game around. And the setting of Koholint Island remains one of my all-time videogame worlds. I'm beyond delighted.
Honestly it's not that bad and I usually hate these stuff. They aren't that often anyway.
I wish the text would stop appearing completely after the first time.
One could make the same argument with the seashells but I get that they are a somewhat relevant currency and a little special compared to a temporary stat boost that drops once every minute.
What additional handholding does it have? The original had the instrument messages, the owl, the phone booths, etc.
It tells you what to do, like if you get the yoshi doll, it tells you who would like it.
I don't think the original did this.
I'm not there yet, but I remember the Eagle's Tower had puzzles spanning multiple floors (i.e. the ball drops from one floor to the next). How do these chamber tiles work in the Chamber Dungeons if they involve a ball from previous floors that you might not include in the Chamber Dungeon?
Funny, I don't think the game has enough handholding. I've been lost and frustrated on multiple occasions.
I paid £75 for the CE with lamp, and a further £15 for the Amiibo... Wouldn't have it any other way, it's one of my favourite games of all time from childhood. But I do see the point, it's not the biggest game
Can you complete all dungeons in your first run through without additional items? I'm stuck on the second dungeon.
Not sure if it's different from the original, but that might just be for the first one. I'm pretty sure it didn't tell me where to bring stuff for any of the other items.
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What the hell does the warp pad thing in the overworld directly east of the village even do??? Or is that a spoiler??
first run? Zelda isnt a rogue like, of course you can complete every dungeon.
Anyway, just finished, cool ending. Fantastic remake marred, of course, by the constant and distracting frame drops. Just a huge bummer on a otherwise amazing game. Not sure how long it was, "feels" like about 10ish hours but I cant say for sure because the Switch has the silly "wait 10 days" until it shows.
AH okay thanks :)))
Having finished, overall it's a well made remake. The framerate is really regrettable and the small additions they did make to the game (Dampe) weren't great. The controls and enemy hitboxes weren't as tight as they should be, ALBW was noticeably better in that regard. Some of the dungeon design doesn't hold up as well as a I remembered. The last two dungeons are tedious slogs full of backtracking. They aren't even necessarily hard or confusing, the design is just there to make you repeat your path and it feels really dated.
First of all that's not always helpful. Sometimes it is. Sometimes what it tells you is vague or what I already know. Like this time I knew I had to go to a specific person I found earlier for trading stuff. I couldn't for the life of me remember where this person was. I knew what I had to do, but the game had sent me various places all over the map and I'm sorry I couldn't keep track of where everyone was who wanted what! The game could have given me a hint to thier location and I just spent ages wandering wasting time when the game could have just reminded me where it was. Very frustrating.
Secondly there's no hint system whatsoever to use in dungeons. No, the owls aren't that. The owls are more like required information given to you to progress, not hints. The game really could have used a Navi/Midna type thing for you to go to when you're stuck.
Sorry if this makes me a modern causal or something.
Those two dungeons had some genuine great ideas, but:
1) They took forever to navigate from one room to another;
2) I got stuck and in both cases (especially Eagle Tower) the solution wasn't a clever puzzle, but a random bombable wall I missed
I liked the concept behind them, but it was executed poorly.
Eagle Tower's constant running back and forth and easy to fuck your self over is not great design lmao. Turtle rock was fun though. The Oracle games I recall being way tougher, indeed, would've never beat those bastards without a guide. And Seasons is always called the less puzzle heavy one but I recall it having some devious puzzles as well.
I echo most people in here. The game design feels dated. loads of backtracking and I feel if I didn't use a guide back when I was a kid, I wouldn't get very far in this game without wasting hours talking to every single NPC over and over and over again.