The question is, will the title be completely new, like "The Legend of Zelda: The New Title" or will it be titled so that you know it's a direct sequel to BOTW so it's like "Breath of the Wild: The New Title"?
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel Trailer - Coming 2022
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Of course it has to be the same Link, but he might be experiencing the past hero's memories to find out how to seal Ganon and gain knowledge and learn to use the arm to defeat him. The game might allow you to face Ganon straight from the start without any of the powers you might learn during the game.
Game begins -> Zelda disappears (probably corrupted and posessed by Ganon) -> Link "fuses" with arm --> two options:
- Option 1: Face Ganon inmediately, maybe unlocking a new ending where you don't seal Ganon but defeat him. Hard mode / speedrun mode
- Option 2: Learn to use powers and learn about how to defeat/seal Ganon by experiencing the hero of the past's memories
The Legend of Zelda: Memories of the Past
The Legend of Zelda: The Hero of the Past
It would be the former most likely, doing The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: As Above So Below would be to long.
Oh of course that is possible, I'm just pointing it out to the people who hoped it was somehow Zelda.
Oh, yeah, not happening. Zelda will be forever the damsel in distress. (Which has to change, not just because there is so much potential there, but because it's kinda fair to do so)
Them hiding Link's face in the sky could simply be because it has similar markings or "decay" as his arm after... whatever happens to him... and they want the reveal to be a big shocking moment in a story trailer.
I mean, I love the idea of it being Ganondorf/the Ancient Hero (even though I'd rather they not make Ganondorf white/blond) but it seems like a stretch.
The thing about Zelda that I keep coming back to is her redesign: why the short hair? And the only thing I can think of is because that allows her and Link to have similar armour/animations making it easier to have them both playable.
My favourite part about Zeltik's analysis is the theory that the Zonai never went extinct, they just moved to the sky islands. Really hope we get to meet them.
I mean, I love the idea of it being Ganondorf/the Ancient Hero (even though I'd rather they not make Ganondorf white/blond) but it seems like a stretch.
The thing about Zelda that I keep coming back to is her redesign: why the short hair? And the only thing I can think of is because that allows her and Link to have similar armour/animations making it easier to have them both playable.
My favourite part about Zeltik's analysis is the theory that the Zonai never went extinct, they just moved to the sky islands. Really hope we get to meet them.
Legend of Zelda: Title. It's a Zelda game, not a Breath of the Wild game. There's no game franchise owned by Nintendo called "Breath of the Wild"
I think so too, it's not gonna be a botw title, the same way Majoras Mask wasn't "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Majora's Mask"
I hope you're right!
Ah, so you did. Oops!
Yeah, I should clarify that billboarding alone wouldn't be so convincing. The reason they're able to pull it off is because the imposters can receive direct illumination and the cloud materials are properly shaded in a way that conveys depth from said illumination. Your mind is using the lighting information and interpreting it as a depth cue, and the illusion should work well enough for most people. However, the illusion breaks down for me because when I see the camera angle change, I notice that the rotational parallax of the clouds compared the the background of very consistent with that of camera facing quads; it's too uniform, and at no point does any part of any cloud geometrically obstruct other parts of itself.
A good way to think about this is to compare a head on view with a view that progressively moves overhead. The bottom of a truly three dimensional cloud should eventually become obstructed from view, but it's clear in the following examples that that doesn't happen:
This is a clear sign of billboarding to me, even though the shading is excellent at conveying depth.
Nevertheless, the clouds still look really good!
Hmmmm.... I definitely think all the flowing animations were throwing my ability to discern the foreshortening.
I wonder if it can hold up this well with horizontal camera movement.
Didn't Bill Trinin insinuate that the title is a little spoiler-y so they don't want to announce that information yet? We've already seen it has stuff to do with the sky, so I think there's something that hasn't been shown yet that the title alludes to.
Not that your ideas for titles are at all bad. I just think there's something we haven't seen yet that we'll see towards the finalised version of the game that will be a key item.
Like Ocarina of Time was about the key item in that game.
Is this gonna be some timeloop shenanigans where Link and Zelda from BOTW are actually the hero and princess from 10,000 years ago and BOTW Link leaves his arm sealed with Ganondorf so his future self can find it 10,000 years later?
Yeah, bear in mind we weren't even given any release timeline at E3 2016, and the last estimate provided was "2017" in Nintendo's March 2016 fiscal report that year. Then, 2 months out, they drop the final trailer and release date. It is quite possible (probable, even) that the game could still launch in early 2022.
Im leaning towards the latter.
They've called it 'sequel to the breath of the wild' twice now over the span of 2 years.
It will be strange if they left the BOTW branding off the game.
It's their biggest most successful Zelda game, I think they will milk that branding and also for the practical reason its a continuation of the BOTW narrative.
I'm betting that this is somehow a central mechanic of the game. Seems like Nintendo likes to borrow elements from remasters/remakes developed in parallel with new titles.
I don't see them keeping BOTW in the title. They are just saying "botw sequel" because that just sells so much. You would want to capitalize on the success of botw until you reveal the proper title.
I also don't want it to keep the title with a subtitle, hate when they do that. If you want to keep botw in the title, just put a 2 in there.
It wil be "The Legend of Zelda: _______ of the Wild"
Maybe Legacy of the Wild?
Some treehouse guy on an interview said the game has a title, but they havent revealed because it could let people know what happens in the story, its not gonna be called anything Breath of the wild...
The Legend of Zelda
The one game where Ganondorf revives, kills Zelda and Link has to go recruit an army of chickens against Ganon and in the end they win and revive Zelda back and they live happily ever after
That's gonna be the title.The one game where Ganondorf revives, kills Zelda and Link has to go recruit an army of chickens against Ganon and in the end they win and revive Zelda back and they live happily ever after
I like this theory :-) and time travel has been done before in Zelda games and BotW had a ruined Temple of Time in it. So the pieces are there for some sort of time travel shenanigans.
If we didn't already have Spirit Tracks I would be leaning towards the title being something including Spirits. Two Spirits, Spirits of the _____, or some such about like Heaven and Hell but Zelda-fied. There very well could be a very spiritual heavy aspect to this game. The skyworld evokes a lot of heavenly/afterlife like elements and then we have the potential underworld elements, which may or may not revolve around Zelda. Link's whole ascending and ghosting through rocks could just be some cool power, but could be some kind of spiritual manifestation.
The arm we see that possesses/saves/merges with Link came from someone. I wonder if their consciousness/spirit still resides in it and we may be seeing the return of a Navi/Midna/Fi/etc type partner that talks to us and guides us. Helping Link connect to his spiritual side on top of giving him new powers.
I also wonder if that Glowing Arm was always just a glowing arm, like was it severed from its original body after sealing Ganondorf, or was it originally an entire body holding Ganondorf back and over the millennia has slowly decayed to the point where just the arm is left? We see that green power rising from the arm, may be the spiritual power is slowly but surely dissipating and weakening, which was how Calamity Ganon was able to appear in the first place 10K years ago and 100 years ago.
The arm we see that possesses/saves/merges with Link came from someone. I wonder if their consciousness/spirit still resides in it and we may be seeing the return of a Navi/Midna/Fi/etc type partner that talks to us and guides us. Helping Link connect to his spiritual side on top of giving him new powers.
I also wonder if that Glowing Arm was always just a glowing arm, like was it severed from its original body after sealing Ganondorf, or was it originally an entire body holding Ganondorf back and over the millennia has slowly decayed to the point where just the arm is left? We see that green power rising from the arm, may be the spiritual power is slowly but surely dissipating and weakening, which was how Calamity Ganon was able to appear in the first place 10K years ago and 100 years ago.
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It has a 5 year development cycle and a team of over 1000 people working on it. I'm pretty certain it won't feel like DLC.
because it's not DLC- it would be like saying every Yakuza sequel set in Kamorucho is DLC considering they reuse that map nearly every game.
We don't know the full scope of their changes yet.
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My money is on "The Legend of Zelda: The Legend: Breath of the Wild: The Series."
In all seriousness, I could see them doing something like "The Legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild: New Title."
Not sure if this has been said already, but I think the trailers are teasing the changing world bit by bit.
The first trailer ends on a shot of Hyrule that looks mostly identical to BotW, just without the shrines and towers. It teases the first change with Hyrule Castle shaking and starting to lift.
This new trailer ends on a shot of Hyrule Field, with Hyrule Castle levitating. We know this won't be the final state of the world because there are no floating islands to be seen. If you look at the footage from the Sky, the islands seem to be floating roughly over the Hyrule Ridge area. This area is visible in that last shot, but without sky islands.
I'm guessing the next trailer/teaser will be more surface (or, fingers crossed, underground) focused, and end on a shot emphasizing the addition of the sky islands to the greater world.
The first trailer ends on a shot of Hyrule that looks mostly identical to BotW, just without the shrines and towers. It teases the first change with Hyrule Castle shaking and starting to lift.
This new trailer ends on a shot of Hyrule Field, with Hyrule Castle levitating. We know this won't be the final state of the world because there are no floating islands to be seen. If you look at the footage from the Sky, the islands seem to be floating roughly over the Hyrule Ridge area. This area is visible in that last shot, but without sky islands.
I'm guessing the next trailer/teaser will be more surface (or, fingers crossed, underground) focused, and end on a shot emphasizing the addition of the sky islands to the greater world.
They are definitely holding something back, especially by not revealing the title, which is supposed to reveal the main hook of the game.
By the look of yesterday's footage, there'll be time travel elements in the game, but I wonder if and what's more to it.
By the look of yesterday's footage, there'll be time travel elements in the game, but I wonder if and what's more to it.
I have a feeling the subtitle won't actually be more spoilery than any other Zelda subtitle and they just don't want to say it yet.
The picture above is obviously a nod to Skyward Sword.
It's just fun to theorise.
A few random thoughts:
- Zelda falling into the abyss is probably a fake out. It may seem silly to attach importance to a haircut, but I doubt her character would have a design change like that for her to be immediately removed. I'm not saying she's playable but I believe she'll have a larger role than BotW.
- I don't think we'll be playing as different Links. That's really incongruous with the Open Air adventure style of BotW. We'll be a single Link progressing through the game. His hair is just down in a lot of shots and confusing people.
- The sky sections are hard to place. Maybe they're invisible while on the ground. They don't seem to be made of chunks of Hyrulean landscape rising up. Seems like they've been there.
- Zelda falling into the abyss is probably a fake out. It may seem silly to attach importance to a haircut, but I doubt her character would have a design change like that for her to be immediately removed. I'm not saying she's playable but I believe she'll have a larger role than BotW.
- I don't think we'll be playing as different Links. That's really incongruous with the Open Air adventure style of BotW. We'll be a single Link progressing through the game. His hair is just down in a lot of shots and confusing people.
- The sky sections are hard to place. Maybe they're invisible while on the ground. They don't seem to be made of chunks of Hyrulean landscape rising up. Seems like they've been there.
I think there's a distinct possibility it might be some other worldly/heavenly plane/dream world. Good a guess as any right now. Green is the color of the day for BotW2, representing life, courage and the spiritual aspect of the Triforce. BotW was all about blue and Wisdom aspect with technology and stuff of the Sheikah. So something like a dream or spirit world doesn't seem that far out of the question. Not like Zelda series hasn't had alternate realms before.Maybe instead of actually going to visit floating areas in the sky, maybe the split will be more like real world and "dream world", which would maybe also explain the change in clothing and hair.
The picture above is obviously a nod to Skyward Sword, it's just fun to theorise.
Technically speaking the cloud barrier from SS may still be in effect. We still something really similar when the dragons in BotW ascend into the sky and go through these cloud portals. So all that stuff could still be up there but no visible from below because of that barrier. And then we either physically or spiritually ascend up there. Or maybe they descend from beyond the Cloud Barrier and are visible again within the world.
I'm far less inclined to believe that those sky islands come from the ground up now. They just don't match anything we see on the ground, have fully formed and full trees and stuff.
I am surprised to see the trailer mentioned even on the BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57484727
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57484727
BOTW sold over 23 million units, it's not surprising that BOTW2 has the traction and hype that it has.
Prob no focus on narative, not what Zelda games are about usually.
I'm confident this game will be distinct. They usually do enough to make sure Zelda games standout. It has a long dev time and this was just a teaser. Not meant to fully reveal its core gameplay and world. Next we prob will get the full trailer explaining a bit more.
hmm considering going blackout from now lol
It will be fun seeing the way speedrunners break this game. Never would have though of stasis hitting a boulder and climbing on it in the first game.
Seen some theories floating around that long haired "Link" is actually Ganon from forever ago when he was a hero. I think that's a great theory.
It's also terrible. I expect the absolute worst from Nintendo when it comes to diversity and cultural sensitivity. So it falls in line that they have you play as Ganon from before he was corrupted by malice or whatever, and of course, he is white. We'll get to see the fall of Ganon which will eventually lead to his skin darkening and him looking more like Ganon from past iterations. Of course, as everyone knows, the darker your skin gets the more evil and corrupted you are.
Oh and Zelda ain't gonna be playable. You play as Link in the current timeline and whitewashed Ganon in the sky area. Hurray!
It's also terrible. I expect the absolute worst from Nintendo when it comes to diversity and cultural sensitivity. So it falls in line that they have you play as Ganon from before he was corrupted by malice or whatever, and of course, he is white. We'll get to see the fall of Ganon which will eventually lead to his skin darkening and him looking more like Ganon from past iterations. Of course, as everyone knows, the darker your skin gets the more evil and corrupted you are.
Oh and Zelda ain't gonna be playable. You play as Link in the current timeline and whitewashed Ganon in the sky area. Hurray!
My gut says the shot of link falling is one of, if not the first time we take control of him since he has no gear in that shot. Would make sense for all the stuff before then to be cutscenes since it's clearly gonna be linear to get you to the point where the game really starts. Transitioning from cutscene to gameplay mid fall, and just having you drop on to whatever sky island you think looks cool would be a great way to start the game. That or it'll be like Metroid where the first segment is playable and you get to toy around with having a lot of gear, but then it gets taken away from you and you start from scratch.
There is definitely something suspicious about the sky Link having a lot of new features (new haircut, new clothes, visible weird arm and tattoos) and the ground Link looking copy pasted from BotW except for new item/runes.
I wonder if an MGS2 boss trailer situation is going on.
I wonder if an MGS2 boss trailer situation is going on.
It's a terrible theory. BotW Link has always had long hair. That's the only way he'd be able to wear it in a ponytail.
His hair isn't even longer in this game. You can see it's that length when he wears a few of the armor sets in BotW, and it's coincidentally about the same length as my own hair (I'm currently rocking the same ponytail, heh).
I really really doubt Nintendo is having people play as Ganon in this game. Especially not one who looks nearly identical to Link.
They both have the same arm thing and links hair depends on his clothes anyway.
But don't you get it??? The parallel between Link and Ganon! They both looked similar and heroic and white before Ganon was corrupted by evil darkness. This is how we get you to sympathize with the villain!
Ugh.