Yep. The series has done dark/alternate worlds and timetravel-like stuff how many times now? All of which would give us a newish map to explore as well.
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel Development Thread- News, Updates, and Speculation
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3D World is a 3D game and despite what people try to argue is a mainline game.
Joy to my heart.
Change of stale perspective. Dynamic to storytelling. Strength to a (mostly) fixed character.
More joy.
I agree. This year is all about celebrating the past games on modern systems and botw2 will be the end of that next year (due to covid)
I still think we'll see a trailer at E3... but the deep dive won't be until a direct late this year.
I've thought that and it could be true. Zelda has turned into one of those evergreen games for Nintendo. It will sell regardless of time of year of release.
I don't think we'll see it at E3 this year. Or at least, it's unlikely. I think that BOTW 2, or whatever it's called, will be left out and shown sometime later this year in a separate Direct or perhaps a Direct meant specifically for it.
I just feel like Nintendo doesn't want to divert too much attention from what's coming this year.
And it's clear that they want to focus a lot on what's coming this year at the Direct.
Yeah, 2022 seems likely, trying to explain why i want Zelda to be playable is one of those things where you either get it or you don't for me,
I like link well enough or else it wouldn't be my favourite franchise, but as I've gotten older, story based characters have become more interesting, to that note, in botw I thought Zelda was much more interesting than Link, we see her less, but her journey and arc is much more interesting, in a sense I felt she was a bit robbed, making link be the one who had to finish the fight was a bit unfortunate, she even hands him the bow,I agree that fits the character who doesn't really fight, but I'd argue they chose to make her that way.
As for how it would work from a gameplay perspective, I would say either a companion you can switch between, or two characters approaching the problem from different angles, she can use light magic and the slate for a start, if you wanted to I'm sure archery could be justified, with practice it's certainly not impossible, she won't be taking out lynel's one on one per say but perhaps the slate is the key here, more upgrades that allow her to decipher a way to take out ganondorf just off the top of my head could work.
it really is in my opinion not hard to find a way to make her playable that both is compelling and entertaining to play, if anything I'm growing bored of links play style, as fun as botw combat is and I suspect the arm will come into play here, Zelda would leave a much more lasting impression.
I like link well enough or else it wouldn't be my favourite franchise, but as I've gotten older, story based characters have become more interesting, to that note, in botw I thought Zelda was much more interesting than Link, we see her less, but her journey and arc is much more interesting, in a sense I felt she was a bit robbed, making link be the one who had to finish the fight was a bit unfortunate, she even hands him the bow,I agree that fits the character who doesn't really fight, but I'd argue they chose to make her that way.
As for how it would work from a gameplay perspective, I would say either a companion you can switch between, or two characters approaching the problem from different angles, she can use light magic and the slate for a start, if you wanted to I'm sure archery could be justified, with practice it's certainly not impossible, she won't be taking out lynel's one on one per say but perhaps the slate is the key here, more upgrades that allow her to decipher a way to take out ganondorf just off the top of my head could work.
it really is in my opinion not hard to find a way to make her playable that both is compelling and entertaining to play, if anything I'm growing bored of links play style, as fun as botw combat is and I suspect the arm will come into play here, Zelda would leave a much more lasting impression.
They probably won't even talk about the next Zelda till much later.
I can see the e3 direct showing ss briefly, then showing ww/tp with release dates. A zelda 35 game and merch. Then ending with a botw2 trailer that's brief but offers enough story hints to keep youtubers busy for a while lol. But yeah botw2 direct in late fall makes sense after as well.
all signs I see point to it being shown at this E3, the game broke the internet last time, Nintendo loses nothing from showing it if they've plan to release it as soon as next year, and considering how far along it looked two years ago I can't see any problem, plus there's that insider who pointed to one of those 2022 games to be shown being botw's sequel.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
I get that Nintendo could go either way, but I'm leaning toward them doing it all in a separate Direct. I just don't think that they're in any hurry. They aren't Sony where they hype things up for several years. Or, hell, we can look at Microsoft.
Yes, they may prematurely announce things, but that's that; otherwise, they mostly keep to themselves and even tell you if it's going to take longer than expected.
Yeah...No.
Aonuma already apologised twice for not showing it, you think Nintendo's going to go to E3 and have Aonuma once again say "Hey, I know this is the third time I'm saying this but...Yeah sucks for you"
If Breath of the Wild 2 wasn't going to be at E3 then Nintendo would have confirmed it already, just like they did for BOTW for E3 2015, Nintendo knows how anticipated BOTW2 is and they won't go over 2 years without showing new footage.
Anyone that says "Oh but they have Skyward Sword HD and they don't want to overshadow that" is forgetting that Skyward Sword is not a new game, in fact, it's releasing next month, anyone who is interested in SSHD is very much likely also interested in BOTW2, they can be in the same show and it won't kill SS momentum, in fact not showing BOTW2 but showing only SSHD would probably bring the game more hate because people will say "It's because of Skyward Sword we didn't get a new trailer!" just like when Triforce Heroes was announced at E3 2015, the one E3 where Nintendo confirmed BOTW wouldn't be at people bashed Triforce Heroes because it was at a E3 where "BOTW should have been shown at".
Breath of the Wild 2 will be at E3.
It wouldn't surprise me to see fewer 35th-anniversary announcements at this Direct than some anticipate, if only so that they appear during a more dedicated Zelda Direct a couple of months down the line.
That's what I'm thinking.
Eh, I just don't see it, but maybe you're right.
I just can't see them not showing it, chances are it will be releasing next year, and it does specify games releasing this year and some next year, whether it's as much as people are hoping however, that's where I see it as iffy. Regardless, a Zelda themed direct later in the year is also fairly likely, at that point they can show more gameplay, the aoc dlc, any poets they might want to rerelease, etc, regardless it's fairly certain people are going to want to see it this E3, they know we do, and they would be smart to capitalise on that if they are in a position to show u:
Prepared to not be disappointed then?
The thing as well is they can show BOTW2 at E3 and still have a "Zelda themed" direct later in the year, it's not like it's a small game or anything.
I guess.
The thing about Nintendo is that they kinda do things that... honestly don't make much sense to me, even business sense.
They reveal stuff or they don't and there's no way to predict them, at times.
So it's been for me in the past, so I stopped predicting and kinda just started going for the ride, so to speak.
you say that, but I'm fairly certain they ask their devs if they have something to show on whatever game they're working on, and based on that and the timeframe for release dictates what they show, botw2 is one of those special cases where they knew it would take a while to release (maybe it got delayed due to last year who can say) but know it's hype and will get people talking Nintendo, if they don't show it here I will official say Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing, and I'm confident that isn't true because here we are talking about a as yet unreleased game of unknown quality beyond the first one's offerings, hoping it shows up.
I could see it happening, but I still find it unlikely.
This is really how it should be done. Way more interesting than a character swap or anything like that.
Yeah, they are definitely unpredictable. It's like how they became known for announcing new games really close to release, and then they go and reveal Splatoon 3 over a year out for no reason that I can figure.
Everyone was SURE BotW2 would be at the February direct, and then it just wasn't. I personally think it'll be at E3, but who knows. Maybe they switched direction midway through development or something. There's no way to know for sure.
The bolded isn't even remotely true. I think most people were hoping it would be there in that Direct but a good chunk of people knew there was a high chance it wouldn't be there and it wasn't. Also Nintendo announced Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, and Animal Crossing a year + in advances of their releases. So Splatoon 3 getting announced a year out isn't that surprising. Yes many games have had short announcement and release cycles. But their are others that have been announced a year or more from release.
If Anouma isn't in the show then there's no need for him to apologize again if BOTW2 isn't there
Zelda did finish the fight. Link merely weakened Ganon, Zelda dealt the awesome final blow as was the plan. And she was hardly passive before that, pulling back the malice to give Link targets. They were working together to finally overcome their burden. Zelda was absolutely essential to that fight.
that's extremely not their style, especially given everything that's happened with around Zelda and what their general calendar looks like. even if it's not coming this year, they will show new footage and reveal a title. they might save a deep dive for later but there's no chance they're not talking about that game during the Direct.
I also think bounty hunting might also be a fun addition. Gangs of Yiga, Bokoblins and maybe other bandits might be fun to add to BOTW as well as what I mentioned.
It'll be fun to see what elements they were inspired by.
I like the idea of a frontier times mixed with medieval and super futuristic 'ancient' technology. Would be a great atmosphere. Especially if we're picking up from a point in time where civilisation is coming back from the calamity and Hyrule is starting to rebuild in the wild areas.
Could be cool having a medieval-punk western vibe.
Perhaps. I'm tempering my expectations so there's that, but even then, I still feel somewhat unsure of where I stand on this. I guess I could go either way.
You're getting dunked on for this question (as you should) but let me just add: It would bring about an interesting change to the series. A different protagonist is usually a significant event that can make room for a lot of innovation in gameplay.
I think the "what would Link do" question is legit. His character only works as the playable one, any other fonction doesn't make sense with the way the Zelda team does things. I know I certainly don't want to see him becoming a talking npc. If you have Zelda playable, Link might as well not be there at all, but Link in iconic, so you can't have that... I think this is what they meant with that infamous interview.
I think playable female Link would be much easier to do. Zelda... she's either co-protagonist shared with Link or not at all. If I had to guess the best thing to hope is for her to have a bigger part in the game in general, which I think is all but guaranteed.
I think playable female Link would be much easier to do. Zelda... she's either co-protagonist shared with Link or not at all. If I had to guess the best thing to hope is for her to have a bigger part in the game in general, which I think is all but guaranteed.
They should just go all in and make non-gender specific Link. Refer to Link as "they" or simply "the hero" and you're set. BotW Link was already androgynous as hell which already lead us down this sort of road once after the initial BotW trailer. So why not just do it. This would fully realize the player-insert idea, too. You then decide whether you read this Link as male, or female or non-binary and all would work. No need to hang a lantern on this even, just subtly have the story and other characters never refer to Link as anything specific.
I don't think it's all that hard to come up with a scenario in which Link is incapacitated, or Zelda is sent off to an alternative world/time and has to find her way back. Or both. Especially given the teaser for BOTW2 we were shown.
Yea I mean they literally designed an entire console around asymmetric gameplay before. Two or more people doing different things wouldn't be new ground for any of them. And the idea of two characters with unique capabilities isn't really all that out there or new in general. The be building blocks would already be there, as you also suggest, in the BotW story and the sequel trailer.
They just need to want to go there, is all.
Well AC and FE were delayed so there's that, but the weird thing about the Splatoon 3 reveal was that they revealed it while leaving multiple other H2 2021 games unannounced.
I agree with you on the idea, but recently replaying BOTW in Japanese, I noticed just how much the writing depends on Link being a male. Just constant references to "what a manly thing to do" or "I knew you were that type of man", plus a ton of male hero worship stuff like that woman near a stable that wants to meet the legendary hero of her dreams.
Basically, I don't know if the Zelda team writers can manage a gender neutral Link...
Exactly, heck, you could approach it with two playable characters that you swap between give her mechanics that make sense and you'd have some unique potentially enjoyable gameplay and link wouldn't have to get removed (which tbh wouldn't bother me if he got sealed away or something for a game and needed rescued it wouldn't be the worst thing.)
Tbh at this point I just want them to show the gameplay so we can put it to bed, I would be disappointed if they didn't give her a playable part but if that ends up being the case I'd rather have it confirmed and move on.
Retrofitting it is probably difficult but when you do it from the get-go with that in mind, I'm sure they could just make it work. You could even rewrite those two examples to just be different things conveying the same idea ("be in awe of player character").
I mean, I'm a fan of Spirit Tracks and all but I wouldn't really call Zelda's spirit inside a Darknut armor to be "playable Zelda"...
i like spirit tracks as much as anyone but I think we can do better by Zelda.
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It'll definitely be a game that gets multiple events for it, so a Zelda direct that comes later in the year doesn't necessarily rule out it appearing at E3 too.
That being said, I do agree people seem to think it's 100% happening at E3, and I do think they should settle down a bit. This is Nintendo, you never know.
These two posts are kind of at odds with eachother because if it's launching in March 2022, it SHOULD be shown at this E3. That was exactly the full blown reveal to release cycle of its predecessor.
It'll definitely be a game that gets multiple events for it, so a Zelda direct that comes later in the year doesn't necessarily rule out it appearing at E3 too.
That being said, I do agree people seem to think it's 100% happening at E3, and I do think they should settle down a bit. This is Nintendo, you never know.
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