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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel announced
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Yeah the BotW story had more weight to me since the world itself tells so much of it. Cut scenes added up doesn't tell the whole story.
To add to that, the diadem on his forehead is also present in his OoT design. So that certainly doesn't point to TP either.
It's both. The rust junk and tree branches you find at the start shatter in only a few hits whereas endgame items generally last an order of magnitude of uses or more.
The guardian sword ++ has twice the durability of the guardian sword, for a more direct example.
Hoping the story holds up its end of the bargain in this one. There were bits and pieces I liked from botw but a lot of it felt cheapened by bad voice acting and suspension of disbelief - as these games gain more visual fidelity it's harder to buy these cities/zones the size of a small village as the home of an entire race of people. Whereas on SNES with those graphics if was a lot easier to visually fill in the blanks of the world feeling expansive despite being abstracted into pixel art.
I get the world was supposed to feel dead but a lot of its emptiness felt like a limit of resources more than narratively justified
I get the world was supposed to feel dead but a lot of its emptiness felt like a limit of resources more than narratively justified
Lots wrong with this one.
First, while we've only had a game with Twilight in 1 timeline, the Twili were sealed there in an event before the timeline split, thus it exists in all timelines. Also, twilight is also used to describe the Sacred Realm in ALttP.
The Zora tablets mention Sage Ruto helping the Hero fight Ganon in OoT, which didn't happen in Child Timeline.
The video focuses on Ganondorf standing up as proof, however we see in this shot a flashback to when Ganondorf was sealed:
The hand attacks him while he's still living. He's frozen in a pose of fear and self defense.
There's no stab wound in his chest.
He's dressed like a BotW Gerudo and has long hair.
The mural of him with a trident leading an army doesn't really match TP.
Ganondorf died and resurrected as a new Gerudo Ganondorf in FSA.
Ganon's neck is not "snapping back into place." He turns to face the camera. He's mummified, so it snaps. His head is turned sideways after turning.
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This Ganondorf is likely a new incarnation of Ganondorf who led an army over 10,000 years ago. Tired of him reincarnating time after time, his body was sealed away in an undying death to halt the cycle of reincarnation, but his malice seeped through the seal and became Calamity Ganon.
Nice hypothesis, but the game was delayed to make the Switch port and the physics/chemistry/interaction stuff was planned since the beginning as shown by that faux Zelda 1 they made as a test for the chemistry engine.
Just Ganon. Also those events happening 10K years ago is to say all the events of the other games are so far before even that that they are considered myths and legends.
Is that when he was sealed. Maybe that was the killing blow.Lots wrong with this one.
First, while we've only had a game with Twilight in 1 timeline, the Twili were sealed there in an event before the timeline split, thus it exists in all timelines. Also, twilight is also used to describe the Sacred Realm in ALttP.
The Zora tablets mention Sage Ruto helping the Hero fight Ganon in OoT, which didn't happen in Child Timeline.
The video focuses on Ganondorf standing up as proof, however we see in this shot a flashback to when Ganondorf was sealed:
The hand attacks him while he's still living. He's frozen in a pose of fear and self defense.
There's no stab wound in his chest.
He's dressed like a BotW Gerudo and has long hair.
The mural of him with a trident leading an army doesn't really match TP.
Ganondorf died and resurrected as a new Gerudo Ganondorf in FSA.
Ganon's neck is not "snapping back into place." He turns to face the camera. He's mummified, so it snaps. His head is turned sideways after turning.
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This Ganondorf is likely a new incarnation of Ganondorf who led an army over 10,000 years ago. Tired of him reincarnating time after time, his body was sealed away in an undying death to halt the cycle of reincarnation, but his malice seeped through the seal and became Calamity Ganon.
It's showing the moment before the hand grabbed his chest.
I thought it was the hand letting go of his sealed form. I'm probably totally wrong then.
I didn't read all 50+ pages, but what do we make out of that glowing green hand? It seems so seal ganon, but it doesn't look really "good", does it? The long nails and the casted shadow in the one scene with Ganondorf make it look quite menacing.
I think the hand belongs to one of the Seven/Eight Heroines. The Gerudo text on their statues calls them The Seven Sages:
Over 10,000 years ago a new Ganondorf was born to the Gerudo and led an army to war. Tired of the endless cycle of reincarnation, the Seven Heroines sought to end it by sealing Ganondorf so that he could not die and reincarnate.
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Maybe the powers necessary to seal Ganondorf aren't the prettiest.
I'm so stoked for playing with adventure buddies Link and Zelda. This might be the first game where they adventure together with Zelda not being a ghost or anything like that.
I think the hand belongs to one of the Seven/Eight Heroines. The Gerudo text on their statues calls them The Seven Sages:
Over 10,000 a new Ganondorf was born to the Gerudo and led an army to war. Tired of the endless cycle of reincarnation, the Seven Heroines sought to end it by sealing Ganondorf so that he could not die and reincarnate.
Yeah, I assumed something like this, but the hand looks quite intimidating and the action to seal Ganon almost gruesome, unlike the magic Zelda uses in BotW for example.
Haha, probably! I'm just wondering. Would be cool if the force that seals Ganon isn't as pure as it seems!
Had probably used some majuc to kill him. It the silhouette looks like a non mummified body. So I doubt it is the hand sealing anything like we see the had doing so on the mummy.
I agree, but I think that's just to make you question if the hand is good or bad at first. It's definitely sealing Ganondorf and it seems to be trying to save Link and Zelda as they fall to their doom. The gimmick of this game seems to be Link gaining the powers of the hand.
The shadow is showing the past, before Ganon was a mummy. He was attacked by the hand grabbing his chest and it turned him into a mummy.
The guardians and Shiekah tech look pretty menacing as well, but they were made for a good purpose.
That's a fantastic catch! I'm already getting super excited for all the things that people are pulling out of this!I think the hand belongs to one of the Seven/Eight Heroines. The Gerudo text on their statues calls them The Seven Sages:
Over 10,000 a new Ganondorf was born to the Gerudo and led an army to war. Tired of the endless cycle of reincarnation, the Seven Heroines sought to end it by sealing Ganondorf so that he could not die and reincarnate.
I guess it's time for Zelda to officially appoint these guys as the new champions.
Yes, except get rid of that ridiculous Yunobo.
Good point! The guardians indeed look pretty freaky and they were created to be the army of the good guys.
I second this! He is the worst. Riju is the best.
That would be pretty cool, so long as the game Still kept itself fresh and interesting.I guess it's time for Zelda to officially appoint these guys as the new champions.
Huge disagree.
How does it have the most story? How does it have the most character development? The only way I could see character development would be if you only focused on Zelda who has the most information about her personality dropped in an optional read through her diary right before the final fight.
The antagonist is atrocious, even discounting the super shitty, "shoot the glowy spots with arrows" final boss, Ganon in this game is beyond a boring enemy. He's not given any more nuance or personality than Gohma from OoT when in previous games, especially games like WW, he's given a huge personality and commanding presence. He's just here to get beat down by the player.
Link is barely given any real semblance of personality either despite some of his dialogue options. His most expressive scenes are now more relegated to when he cooks food vs anything in the story. Great.
As far as narrative goes, it's definitely put on the back burner in favor for the gameplay freedom given to you. Some people like it a lot obviously, but the central narrative is definitely weaker imo compared to a lot of the other zeldas.
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Apologies if this has already been discussed to death but do y'all reckon the overworld will be a completely new one or more of a "dark remix" (or whatever) variant of Hyrule? Seeing Hyrule Castle at the end of the teaser has me leaning slightly in that direction.
I think it'll be a remix of some kind. Since I assume all the shrines will already be removed/moved, Nintendo will need to make changes regardless. My assumption is that Nintendo knows that discovery and exploration were big parts of the original, so I think they know they need to figure out how to surprise players.
That hand in the silhouette reminds me of Agahnim from A Link to the Past. Doesn't really make any sense that it would be him but I'd love to see that old bastard return.
I guess it's time for Zelda to officially appoint these guys as the new champions.
That would be a cool thing. Instead of BOTW where everything is past tense in the battles. You are now fighting alongside them against the new evil that emerges.
The best thing about this game is that it's no longer tied to the Wii U and it's gamepad. It's clear Botw was made with the Gamepad in mind. The shackles are free. Hallelujah
I gotta say after watching an analysis video I don't feel too good about the chances of Zelda being playable, at least in a meaningful way. In the brief shots we see of her she seems as passive as ever, riding the beast while Link is walking, looking scared, falling down, grabbing Link's hand... And then the green stuff taking over Link's arm, impliying that he's the one getting the new abilities/gimmicks of the game. I thought the short hair and the emphasis put on her made it a sure thing but I don't believe it anymore.
I do feel good about the return of dungeons though. That brief shot of the entrance of those ruins wasn't put there by accident.
I do feel good about the return of dungeons though. That brief shot of the entrance of those ruins wasn't put there by accident.
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Totally agree. Also MM exists, every NPC seems more detailed in that one.
The new champions if they were the Ninja Turtles. Riju=Leonardo. Teba=Raphael. Sidon=Mikey (this is the worst one). and Yunobo=Donatello.
Not sure why this popped into my head but they seem like a fun group to team up.
Not sure why this popped into my head but they seem like a fun group to team up.
Nintendo should make the XP systems in BoTW better, and visible this time around.
So that people don't assume that killing enemies is a waste of time...
...and never level up the world spawns as a result
...and thus never find improved weapons or weapon variety
...because shocker, just using your weapons knowing that you'll get more, better weapons as you go...
...is really an actual game mechanic built in BoTW
Make XP or World State a visible meter and you fix a lot of perception problems. People will actually look at weapons like ammo instead of like precious to be hoarded. They'll actually use their weapons to kill enemies. And they might actually notice that as enemies are killed, the world's loot generation changes and better loot starts spawning.
Weapon durability was never the problem.
Breath of the Wild not making it crystal clear to players that killing enemies with their weapons would directly lead to the availability of newer, better, stronger weapons with special effects throughout the game... That was always the problem.
You make that shit clear Nintendo and watch the durability complaints mostly dry up
So that people don't assume that killing enemies is a waste of time...
...and never level up the world spawns as a result
...and thus never find improved weapons or weapon variety
...because shocker, just using your weapons knowing that you'll get more, better weapons as you go...
...is really an actual game mechanic built in BoTW
Make XP or World State a visible meter and you fix a lot of perception problems. People will actually look at weapons like ammo instead of like precious to be hoarded. They'll actually use their weapons to kill enemies. And they might actually notice that as enemies are killed, the world's loot generation changes and better loot starts spawning.
Weapon durability was never the problem.
Breath of the Wild not making it crystal clear to players that killing enemies with their weapons would directly lead to the availability of newer, better, stronger weapons with special effects throughout the game... That was always the problem.
You make that shit clear Nintendo and watch the durability complaints mostly dry up
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I agree with this but only if they can do it in an in-game type of way. I loved how much of the game was told through playing and experiencing it and want them to go even further. I want them to do away with the numbers attributed to weapons and shields and instead have their description and how they look be all you get.
I guess I include the world story telling and lore which was a lot of the story. Pure cut scenes felt about on par after all the memories and DLC stories.
Theories are all over still. Could be remixed, dark world beneath, or expanded map and BotW Hyrule is just the corner of a bigger map.
That tomb looks like its been there for quite a while, and Ganondorf mummified. I can see 10.000 years having passed since TP
OK, how bout this, 10,000 years ago Ganondorf realizes he's just a pawn in Demise's curse and decides to end it. He becomes a champion of good and gets the master sword to kill the evil calamity Ganon side of himself. Before he can try, the sages realize who he is and figure they would have a better chance of defeating Ganon by sealing Ganondorf away in a ReDead-esque living death. He is attacked by his former allies and sealed by one of their hands. Of course this only slows down calamity Ganon but doesn't stop it. Now Ganondorf has been awakened and he is pissed.
Yeah sadly at this point I'm all but willing to bet actual money she won't be playable, but they don't want to start the hype build up on the game by telling people "no" and so are waiting till they are ready to show more stuff to take the sting off when they have to let us down.
So when do we think that this started development? I could see it releasing Nov 2020 if it started right after BOTW was released, that would be a solid 3+ years of dev time.
But seems more likely that, because of DLC, it probably started January 2018?
But seems more likely that, because of DLC, it probably started January 2018?
Depends, do we know how much of the stuff shifted to DLC and how much to a new entry in the series?
I'd guess preproduction started as soon as BotW's core game wrapped. Devs seem to usually put a smaller crew on DLC, and given the nature of the DLC in BotW I have no reason to believe it'd be different here.
That's probably why they haven't committed to a 2020 release date, besides it being a super early teaser anyway.
