Don't forget cooking a dozen or two recipes by hand to stock up on healing items and elixirs.
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is magnificent
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Don't forget cooking a dozen or two recipes by hand to stock up on healing items and elixirs.
Also, cooking dozens and dozens of extra food dishes on top of that to sell for money.
Cooking is busted as hell. I also dislike how healing works in the game. Pausing the game while you're in midair from getting knocked on your ass and shoving food in your face to instantly heal back to full, and even using your 200 apples if you run out, just somehow makes managing my HP seem really dumb and arbitrary in a way it doesn't in other games. Might as well be invincible, the only danger is one-hit kills.
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let me ask you guys this ultimate question
is BOTW as revolutionary to the open world genre what Grand Theft Auto 3 was back in 2001?
is BOTW as revolutionary to the open world genre what Grand Theft Auto 3 was back in 2001?
I mean you don't have to abuse cooking and eating stuff mid fights. I actively avoided killing creatures and collecting every little shiny thing just annoys me so I only had one or two healing items when I went into the Gerudo divine beast and that was both the hardest and most enjoyable part of the game.
Cooking is absolutely busted, but its also very easy to just not do, or just use it to make some money instead.
BoTW is a much, much, much better game.
GTA3 was definitely a bigger moment, though as great as it was people on the PC did play open world games long before. I think I was playing Daggerfall in 96 or 97. So I would probably say GTA3 was more revolutionary but that's always debatable.
Eh, unpopular opinion...I didn't like it. I played. It for about 3 hours the first time and then 30 hours the second when I beat it...and I can't say I enjoyed it.
The scenery is beautiful but a bit lonely and the OST is good, but I didn't like any of the new systems. I avoided fighting because there was no reward for it and it wasn't fun...I hated breaking weapons, the puzzles were meh, the cooking took too long and wasn't fun, there was no direction (but not in a Skyrim or Witcher way where I found 20 quests in my time when lost). I also didn't like the progression, it just didn't feel like I did anything other than travelled to a lot of places, did a 5 min "dungeon" then travelled back to get a heart or stamina.
I was so hyped for it but just left with a bad taste in my mouth. Unless they revamp the combat at a minimum I won't buy the sequel.
I can see where people would enjoy it but for me it was a burden and the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I'm still an OoT fanboy and hold that game as the pinnacle of Zelda.
The scenery is beautiful but a bit lonely and the OST is good, but I didn't like any of the new systems. I avoided fighting because there was no reward for it and it wasn't fun...I hated breaking weapons, the puzzles were meh, the cooking took too long and wasn't fun, there was no direction (but not in a Skyrim or Witcher way where I found 20 quests in my time when lost). I also didn't like the progression, it just didn't feel like I did anything other than travelled to a lot of places, did a 5 min "dungeon" then travelled back to get a heart or stamina.
I was so hyped for it but just left with a bad taste in my mouth. Unless they revamp the combat at a minimum I won't buy the sequel.
I can see where people would enjoy it but for me it was a burden and the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I'm still an OoT fanboy and hold that game as the pinnacle of Zelda.
That's exactly what I did at some point, just stopped cooking anything but elixirs and only ate raw meat or used Mipha's Grace to replenish HP.
I understand when people say you don't have to use [tedious/dumb but broken mechanic] but it's better not to reward players so much for doing tedious things and instead reward them for doing things that will enhance their experience playing the game. This whole cooking thing is only a minor complaint though.
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No, of course not. GTA3 basically created the genre. I'd say BOTW's influence is more in line with something like Skyrim or TW3.
I kind of hated that the only way to get the master sword was to have a buttload of hearts. Zelda always had a problem where its rewards were usually something that just makes the game easier but the most classic videogame sword was locked behind that this time around and I hate it.
One of the best games ever and a true masterpiece of game design. I write down the name of everyone who doesn't like this game in a notebook. A notebook titled, "List of People Who Are Wrong."
I am very curious to see what they do with BotW 2. The original game is a rich experience, yet it also feels like they really just scratched the surface.
I am very curious to see what they do with BotW 2. The original game is a rich experience, yet it also feels like they really just scratched the surface.
Since release I've played about 70 hrs on and off. Should I just restart the whole thing or jump back in?
A little bit dissapointed about how basic the plot is,not that there is anything wrong about a simple story but the premise of Link waking up hundred of years after failing to save Hyrule was really interesting at first.I kinda expected a big plot twist or something.
But yeah,amazing open world game.
But yeah,amazing open world game.
Obviously not. BotW doesn't really revolutionize anything. It is just a notable refinement. It is basically Nintendo's take on Skyrim (with a lot of Ubisoft staples thrown in). It is, however, a new standard in open world traversal. As much as Horizon did many things better than BotW, it was frustrating traversing the landscape in a post-BotW world. Moving forward, more games are going to have to look to BotW and deliver a similar level of feel.
The story was really awkwardly implemented. Which is too bad, as the environmental story telling was pretty superb. I think they could have actually cut the story (specifically the flashback scenes) and made the game better.
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No. Not even close. But I would argue that it is as important to the open world genre as Grand Theft Auto IV was. But not as underappreciated.
I need to replay this game.
This might not be the right place to ask this but how does the DLC work? I played though the base game on Wii U, and have been considering rebuying it on switch. Is the DLC all post game content, or designed to be played during the main game? If I bought it on Switch with the DLC could I start from scratch on master mode?
This might not be the right place to ask this but how does the DLC work? I played though the base game on Wii U, and have been considering rebuying it on switch. Is the DLC all post game content, or designed to be played during the main game? If I bought it on Switch with the DLC could I start from scratch on master mode?
There are the mazes (which are pretty cool, but very short) and Eventide Island. I think Eventide Island is, personally, the best the game ever gets. Unfortunately, after that it becomes a whole lot of put the apple in the front of the statue that doesn't have an apple in front of it, or complete the ring of rocks...
No, but it's a return to the kind of open world games i like the most. The ones that let the player figure out where to go themselves and don't just guide them to every worthwhile point of interest. I had to rely on smaller games to give me that experience and seeing how well it sold and still sells, i hope i get more open world games that follow it's design philosophy.
We are agree, that is not "a lots".
Really loved Eventside too.
If BoTW 2 is the same map, I have no problem with that if they find a way to put puzzle in it. Shrines has no story reasons to be in the game anymore (they can be here, we have done them) so I have hope about that.
Perfection together with Super Smash Bros Ultimate and Metroid Prime
Well they can invent any new story reason they want for them if they still want to do them. Nintendo creates story to fit the
Gameplay they want not vice versa.
It is amazing. It is one of the best playgrounds ever created. I just hope it had a bit more substance in terms of story and questing,since it went that way
Yeah, I know, and that's why most Nintendo's stories are often meh.
It's a valid criticism that the actual things to do in the world like caps and things were sort of cookie cutter... and I think that's one area they and and will improve upon. But really that's not what I'm speaking about... it's that the map leads to an incredible sense of discovery and it's all by visual cues. I think it does that better than any open world game I've played so far. I think that's where all the effort went and it was extremely successful. Hopefully in the sequel they can now put effort into giving us more varied and interesting experiences in the world. (and some dungeons)... now that they don't have to spend 5 years designing a map.
It really is something special.
I've been playing since Odyssey2 and 2600 in the late 70s, and this is the best experience I've ever had with a game. I wasn't sure what to expect with this one, but the sense of joy in just exploring the world was incredible. I would just fire it up to see what I could find that I hadn't already seen or go to an area I hadn't investigated yet.
I put more hours into BOTW than any game over four decades, it was just magical. The sequel can't come soon enough.
2017 was crazy. Any other year, Mario Odyssey would have been the game of the year for me, probably of the generation. But a few months earlier, something even more amazing came out and completely captured my imagination. I still can't believe two games of that caliber were released the same year from the same company.
An old ass gamer dude like myself!
I have been playing games since 1980, starting on the Atari but playing pretty much every console a ton with the exception of a few like the Neo Geo and Virtua Boy.
The way they designed the game and the way it rewards exploration is kind of magical. At times it doesn't feel like a game but your own personal adventure, which is something I have never felt in a game before. You don't find the bullshit path leading to the standard cutscene box leading to a fight or some kind of handmade sequence. If you have played games as long as you have those things are not offensive but they are impossible not to notice. Instead because of the complete freedom and the occasional reward it just felt so different than anything else I have ever played before. It is certainly still a game and it is an illusion they are creating but got damn was it an effective illusion.
I am to the point I want to see what it is like if someone can replicate that feeling. I am not sure anyone else can and I feel like even Nintendo is going to struggle to capture those moments again (though I am probably wrong and shouldn't doubt their wizards).
I'm sorry, but I never said your view was monstrous, just that you've come across as bitter and defensive when people say that they like this the most, even at the expense of others or when you're questioned on that. I can say that I'm definitely not trying to gatekeep, but clearly you see it another way. Could you help me understand why? I'm also sorry if I've offended you. I just don't really understand your defensive nature towards those who compare this game to others. I've not tried to be accusatory, so I'm sorry if it's come across that way.
It would be impossible to include shrine-style puzzles in this naturalistic world. The puzzles that ARE there (the puzzles to open shrines) fit into the environment seamlessly.
The armour designs are incredible. Especially love the rubber armour. :D
I personally had no problem with travelling to stores/upgrade points repeatedly, because I'm used to it from The Elder Scrolls (which BotW borrows quite a few elements from). And in both cases, the heavy atmosphere glosses over how mechanical the activity is.
The one repetitive activity I did have a problem with was
Star Fragments. There's no quick/surefire way to collect them (even the "farming" methods I've seen are a slog), and some armour sets need a LOT of them to do the upgrades.
That's one of the things that drove me mad in the Elder Scrolls.
Subnautica did this as well or better IMO, try that game out if you haven't already (preferably on PC, last I heard the console versions still had performance issues)
It's easily my least favorite part of TES. But I still don't hate it. These worlds feel so good to be in, an activity would have to be a severe drag to get me to hate it.
In Skyrim,
I spent a ridiculous amount of time on the barren northern coast poking into crannies and diving underwater. There was just about nothing there, but I was okay with that.
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Quests from Kass are basically all puzzles and riddles you have to figure out. In fact, most of the shrine quests involve figuring out a riddle, some non-Shrine quests as well. There are multiple shrines hidden behind a puzzle in the overworld beyond that as well. There are also the aforementioned mazes and Eventide.
I'd mention Koroks as well, but you often end up encountering the same types and it's more of a busywork than a puzzle after 1 or 2 times. There are so many of them that I'm sure there are some interesting types I haven't encountered in my 155 hours of play, but it's unfortunately very probable to keep running into the same shit over and over again.
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It's magnificent and wondrous and then also frustrating and exhausting at points. It's a good video game. But there were a lot of annoyances about it that built over time and my overall experience suffered. There's some really amazing stuff here. But also some pretty bad stuff. So frustrating to talk about this game because its merits are very real and I understand why so many other people have it as one of their favorites.
No. GTA 3 was pretty much the first step. BotW is a step forward.
Let's not forget that BOTW has the best dungeons and puzzles a 3D Zelda has ever had.
I'm baffled when people praise the slow and restrictive puzzle and dungeon design of the older 3D games.
I'm baffled when people praise the slow and restrictive puzzle and dungeon design of the older 3D games.
Yawn, at least put some effort in it.
It was supposed to be low tier bait XD
The game is actually fucking great, mind you.
Yes the inventory expansion was one of my least favourite things to do. I get that they wanted to add more reason to explore the game world but I feel like the reward just wasn't good enough. I think it would have been better if the koroks gave you rupees instead. That's more of an instant reward and fits having so many of them across the world.
Upgrading health and stamina I would like to stay but let you players pick a heart container or stamina vessel upon getting the 4 orbs immediately instead. I'd like to see shrines return but less of them and have heart containers and stamina vessels hidden in the wild too.
I really like cooking so I don't want it to go. I agree it makes healing way too easy, there's an easy fix for this though which is just have Link unpause time to eat and maybe have a small cooldown afterwards too. I'd like it if they could give you food/elixir shortcuts in-game so you don't have to pause. On top of that make it so you have to be standing on ground to eat.
I had no idea the 2015 Game Awards BOTW trailer was just Daruk's Theme.
I really liked that song this whole time but didn't know what it was called. Or even where to find it.
That 2015 trailer is kinda the forgotten one now, despite being the first time we see Zelda. I really liked its tonal shifts.
now that I know, Daruk's theme might beat out Sidon, Kass, and Revali for best theme lol
I really liked that song this whole time but didn't know what it was called. Or even where to find it.
That 2015 trailer is kinda the forgotten one now, despite being the first time we see Zelda. I really liked its tonal shifts.
now that I know, Daruk's theme might beat out Sidon, Kass, and Revali for best theme lol
BotW was a moment. It only gets better once you play a bunch of other games and you're begging them to be over after 15 hours. Nothing else compares.