The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki Kai (Switch) comes out in Asia on Feb 25th, eShop page is already up (6.7GB)

Hero of Legend · Feb 20, 2021

英雄傳說零之軌跡：改 (nintendo.com.hk)

This is specifically the Hong Kong page.

But yeah, this is the first of Clouded Leopard's five (so far) Falcom Switch ports:

Clouded Leopard Entertainment Inc.

The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki Kai
The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki Kai
The Legend of Heroes: Cold Steel Kai
The Legend of Heroes: Cold Steel 2 Kai
The Legend of Heroes: Hajime no Kiseki

And oddly all the others but Ao no Kiseki are due on Switch this Summer in Asia/Japan. How the fuck are they gonna pull that off? That's certainly going to get crowded!

Artdink have been in charge of all the PS4 ports of the above (bar Hajime which is a new game), as well as Ys: Memories of Celceta, so I wonder if they're behind the Switch ports too.

Hopefully NISA or XSEED announce these Switch ports for the west soon (maybe at the New Game+ Expo on March 4th?).

Deleted member 71 · Feb 20, 2021

Hero of Legend said:
Hopefully NISA or XSEED announce these Switch ports for the west soon (maybe at the New Game+ Expo on March 4th?).

Would preferably hope that they would hold off until The Geofront's fan translation of Ao/Azure is released, as it would be frustrating to watch all of their work go to waste if they ended up canceling it.

Weiss · Feb 20, 2021

Are these the games about Estelle Bright? Know a guy who talks them up a lot.

Deleted member 71 · Feb 20, 2021

Weiss said:
Are these the games about Estelle Bright? Know a guy who talks them up a lot.

the Trails in the Sky games are, which are available on Steam in the west for the entire trilogy, and PSP for the first two. They're fantastic games, I'd highly recommend playing them.

These on the otherhand are the later entries.

Arsene no Kiseki · Feb 20, 2021

Weiss said:
Are these the games about Estelle Bright? Know a guy who talks them up a lot.

Thats Sora no Kiseki (Trails in the Sky)

salromano · Feb 20, 2021

Interestingly (and oddly), the Switch versions of Zero and Ao aren't coming out in Japan, only in Asia in Traditional Chinese and Korean.

Aaronrules380 · Feb 20, 2021

Weiss said:
Are these the games about Estelle Bright? Know a guy who talks them up a lot.

Estelle is the main character of earlier games in the series (Trails in the Sky games). She does play a role in Zero as well, but she's not the lead in those ones. Trails is a rpg series that spans several "arcs" consisting of multiple games each that take place in a different country in the series world. Zero and Azure (or Ao in Japanese) are the Crossbell Duology that never got officially brought over which came after the Sky games but before the Cold Steel ones

Oregano · Feb 20, 2021

It's unlikely that NISA or XSEED will find it feasible to license Clouded Leopard's ports.

We're probably even going to end up with two Switch different ports for Hajimari.

Flame Lord · Feb 20, 2021

Cisce said:
Would preferably hope that they would hold off until The Geofront's fan translation of Ao/Azure is released, as it would be frustrating to watch all of their work go to waste if they ended up canceling it.

Don't worry, I doubt they'll ever be brought over in an official capacity.

Weiss · Feb 20, 2021

Cisce said:
the Trails in the Sky games are, which are available on Steam in the west for the entire trilogy, and PSP for the first two. They're fantastic games, I'd highly recommend playing them.

These on the otherhand are the later entries.

Arsene no Kiseki said:
Thats Sora no Kiseki (Trails in the Sky)

Aaronrules380 said:
Estelle is the main character of earlier games in the series (Trails in the Sky games). She does play a role in Zero as well, but she's not the lead in those ones. Trails is a rpg series that spans several "arcs" consisting of multiple games each that take place in a different country in the series world. Zero and Azure (or Ao in Japanese) are the Crossbell Duology that never got officially brought over which came after the Sky games but before the Cold Steel ones

Any word on the Sky games coming to Switch, or are they just on Steam?

Desma · Feb 20, 2021

Weiss said:
Are these the games about Estelle Bright? Know a guy who talks them up a lot.

not about her exactly (This game is after her arc), but she shows up in Zero.

Arsene no Kiseki · Feb 20, 2021

Oregano said:
It's unlikely that NISA or XSEED will find it feasible to license Clouded Leopard's ports.

We're probably even going to end up with two Switch different ports for Hajimari.

If they're anything like the PC port of CSI that Clouded Leopard just released a few weeks ago we'd be better off if NISA stuck to making their own ports because the Clouded Leopard CS1 port is AWFUL

Weiss said:
Any word on the Sky games coming to Switch, or are they just on Steam?

At the moment it doesn't seem like it. XSEED apparently has the rights to the Sky trilogy and Cold Steel 1/2 and they don't do a whole lot of their own ports outside of PC.

Deleted member 71 · Feb 20, 2021

Weiss said:
Any word on the Sky games coming to Switch, or are they just on Steam?

Just on Steam, Falcom has talked about potentially doing full 3D remakes of them, but they'd be years off, especially in English.

Hobbun · Feb 20, 2021

Flame Lord said:
Don't worry, I doubt they'll ever be brought over in an official capacity.

What else is new.

Hero of Legend · Feb 20, 2021

Arsene no Kiseki said:
If they're anything like the PC port of CSI that Clouded Leopard just released a few weeks ago we'd be better off if NISA stuck to making their own ports because the Clouded Leopard CS1 port is AWFUL

At the moment it doesn't seem like it. XSEED apparently has the rights to the Sky trilogy and Cold Steel 1/2 and they don't do a whole lot of their own ports outside of PC.

Who did Clouded Leopard's CS1 on PC?

Chaosblade · Feb 20, 2021

Hero of Legend said:
Who did Clouded Leopard's CS1 on PC?

Clouded Leopard is the company making the ports.

And XSEED isn't doing anything with Sky or CS1 and 2 unless Falcom basically contacts them and says "hey we've got these ports for you, will you publish them for us?" Falcom burned that bridge by changing English publishers for new releases, XSEED's not going to pump out ports for old games while not reaping the benefits of publishing the hot new entries.

Hero of Legend · Feb 20, 2021

Chaosblade said:
Clouded Leopard is the company making the ports.

And XSEED isn't doing anything with Sky or CS1 and 2 unless Falcom basically contacts them and says "hey we've got these ports for you, will you publish them for us?" Falcom burned that bridge by changing English publishers for new releases, XSEED's not going to pump out ports for old games while not reaping the benefits of publishing the hot new entries.

You mean Clouded Leopard have a dev team internally who are doing the ports themselves?

fiendcode · Feb 20, 2021

Oregano said:
It's unlikely that NISA or XSEED will find it feasible to license Clouded Leopard's ports.

We're probably even going to end up with two Switch different ports for Hajimari.

NISA doesn't have an issue with picking up sublicensed projects (Langrisser, Culdcept, Killer7, etc), that's just cheapo Xseed who said it's not worth it way back when asked about Kadokawa's Vita Sky Evo ports. Xseed also said dual audio wasn't feasible, until it magically was.

Now, I've no idea if NISA would work with Clouded Leopard as there's no previous relationship there. And Cold Steel 1-2 could add a further wrinkle as Xseed handled them and may hold some rights over the script/VA. I've heard before Falcom retains ownership for all localizations they do but I dunno how true that is. Dotemu apparently got the go ahead from Xseed for Ys Origin, maybe Clouded Leopard will try to do the same and publish CS1-2 Switch themselves in the west.

Weiss said:
Any word on the Sky games coming to Switch, or are they just on Steam?

Dotemu said they'd be interested in porting the Sky trilogy (as well as more Ys titles) to current consoles after the success of Ys Origin. Hope it happens.

Hero of Legend · Feb 25, 2021

Well it's out today. Anyone here looking to buy it?

Hero of Legend · Feb 25, 2021

Here's a video:

Framerate doesn't look too hot but I don't know for sure if it's the game or the recording.

Sonicfan1373 · Feb 25, 2021

I assume there are no English translations for Cold Steel 1 & 2.

If it gets localized with English, I would purchase them day 1.

Hero of Legend · Feb 27, 2021

Guess it was a bad recording, because this vid is MUCH better at 60fps.

Amin_Parker · Feb 27, 2021

So many great JRPG's coming to the Switch. I'm very happy.

Deleted member 24021 · Feb 27, 2021

Falcom please get this localized

Korigama · Feb 27, 2021

Sonicfan1373 said:
I assume there are no English translations for Cold Steel 1 & 2.

If it gets localized with English, I would purchase them day 1.

Cold Steel 1 and 2 have been in English for years now, across PS3, Vita, PS4, and Steam. Though the PS4 ports were the most recent, physical copies are rare at this point.

OmegaDL50 · Feb 27, 2021

Sonicfan1373 said:
I assume there are no English translations for Cold Steel 1 & 2.

If it gets localized with English, I would purchase them day 1.

Cold Steel 1 and 2 do have English localizations but only on PS3, Vita, PS4, and Steam.

The thing is XSEED has licensing rights for Cold Steel 1 and 2 localization, however a lot of the localization staff that handled the translation for Cold Steel 1 and 2, actually left XSEED and did work on both Cold Steel 3 and 4 so there is a level of consistency involved at least with terms and nomenclature being identical across all four games, unlike say for example work done for the Gagharv trilogy at least.

SpaceCrystal · Feb 27, 2021

Sonicfan1373 said:
I assume there are no English translations for Cold Steel 1 & 2.

If it gets localized with English, I would purchase them day 1.

Stregas said:
Falcom please get this localized

We've already received English localizations & translations of those games on PS3, PS4, Vita & Steam.

XSEED or NISA can easily use one of those versions of those games & port them all over to Switch.

Leeway · Feb 27, 2021

Man, I would kill for a collection of at least the Sky trilogy on Switch. Playing FC right now on PC and I enjoy it but because of platform it's a slog for me. Having a really hard time staying with it. I just know I would blast through it in portable mode.

Hopefully one day those Clouded leopard ports are localized and brought over to NA.

raketenrolf · Feb 27, 2021

I really really hope they come to the west sooner or later. Haven't played any of these and would on Switch asap.

Edit: Hope Nayuta comes too, it's the one actually want the most. They recently ported it to PS4 so I hope it gets translated.

Dlanor A. Knox · Feb 27, 2021

Stregas said:
Falcom please get this localized

You're better of getting the japanese version and play with the geofront translation if you have a PC.

It's better than official localizations and also adds a bunch of QoL features, fantastic work from The Geofront team.

But yeah, it would be great on the Switch.

ExtremelyBitter · Feb 27, 2021

While there's a non-zero chance I end up picking the PC ports up because I have irrational love for the Crossbell arc and doubt we'll get a US release and it'd be nice to not have to log in to the Chinese stores I picked up the existing PC version from, it sounds like Clouded Leopard's CS1 PC port is inferior to the version we already have from XSeed and afaik Geofront has maintained they won't be updating their translation patch to work with the Steam versions. So while getting these on Switch at all is great, it'll be interesting to see if Falcom eventually does their own Switch/PC versions and if it has any gains over Clouded Leopard.

Deleted member 24021 · Feb 27, 2021

Dlanor A. Knox said:
You're better of getting the japanese version and play with the geofront translation if you have a PC.

It's better than official localizations and also adds a bunch of QoL features, fantastic work from The Geofront team.

But yeah, it would be great on the Switch.

I imported a Japanese copy and played that translation. I want an official English release!

SpaceCrystal said:
We've already received English localizations & translations of those games on PS3, PS4, Vita & Steam.

XSEED or NISA can easily use one of those versions of those games & port them all over to Switch.

I meant Zero lol

Hero of Legend · Feb 27, 2021

ExtremelyBitter said:
While there's a non-zero chance I end up picking the PC ports up because I have irrational love for the Crossbell arc and doubt we'll get a US release and it'd be nice to not have to log in to the Chinese stores I picked up the existing PC version from, it sounds like Clouded Leopard's CS1 PC port is inferior to the version we already have from XSeed and afaik Geofront has maintained they won't be updating their translation patch to work with the Steam versions. So while getting these on Switch at all is great, it'll be interesting to see if Falcom eventually does their own Switch/PC versions and if it has any gains over Clouded Leopard.

Looking at that list, I don't see any major faults that would affect their Switch work (just going by the vid of Zero I posted yesterday) aside from buggy cutscenes (but doesn't specify how?) and being unable to run (which you see works fine in Zero on Switch).

Someone experience will have to take the plunge and grab Zero on Switch and give us the word, especially compared to the PS4 version it`s based on.

fiendcode · Feb 27, 2021

I get the feeling Crossbell will never be localized. I do think CS1-2 Switch will come over though, either from NISA or from CL directly. Or maybe both even (NISA packaged, CL eShop).

Tohsaka · Feb 27, 2021

fiendcode said:
I get the feeling Crossbell will never be localized. I do think CS1-2 Switch will come over though, either from NISA or from CL directly. Or maybe both even (NISA packaged, CL eShop).

I think there's still a chance NISA localizes Crossbell since there were the recent PS4 ports in Japan. I already played them with the translation patches but I'd be up for replaying them, and from what I hear Hajimari no Kiseki assumes you've played every game in the series even more than CS4 did.

fiendcode · Feb 27, 2021

Tohsaka said:
I think there's still a chance NISA localizes Crossbell since there were the recent PS4 ports in Japan. I already played them with the translation patches but I'd be up for replaying them, and from what I hear Hajimari no Kiseki assumes you've played every game in the series even more than CS4 did.

I agree there's a chance but it feels so slim. My gut feeling is NISA just pushes on ahead to Hajimari and Kuro.

Faiyaz · Feb 27, 2021

Please please please somehow bring over Zero/Ao to the West. I don't care which version at this point.

Chaosblade · Feb 27, 2021

fiendcode said:
I get the feeling Crossbell will never be localized. I do think CS1-2 Switch will come over though, either from NISA or from CL directly. Or maybe both even (NISA packaged, CL eShop).

Xseed had the rights for those games, so it would be them. If it's a low commitment release they would likely do it (like the PS4 versions).

Faiyaz said:
Please please please somehow bring over Zero/Ao to the West. I don't care which version at this point.

Geofront's patch on PC. It's probably better than any official release we might get.

Kingpin Rogers · Feb 27, 2021

Sure would be nice if we could get Trials in the Sky on Switch.

Faiyaz · Feb 27, 2021

Chaosblade said:
Xseed had the rights for those games, so it would be them. If it's a low commitment release they would likely do it (like the PS4 versions).

Geofront's patch on PC. It's probably better than any official release we might get.

I personally prefer to play official releases of games, regardless of fan-translation quality (which I'm sure is great). Same reason I haven't played Great Ace Attorney (yet).

fiendcode · Feb 27, 2021

Chaosblade said:
Xseed had the rights for those games, so it would be them. If it's a low commitment release they would likely do it (like the PS4 versions).

The issue is Xseed has a policy of not touching sublicensed Falcom ports. The only reason they did the PS4 versions of CS1-2 (and Celceta btw) is because Falcom produced them directly.

From what we've heard though Falcom actually retains full translation rights and Xseed isn't adverse to other publishers using their localizations either (like Dotemu's Ys Origin on consoles). I really think we're just going to see Clouded Leopard bring the Switch ports overseas themselves. The NISA thing would only be if they wanted to partner for a wider packaged release but they have a range other options there too really (Aksys, PQube, 505, Limited Run, East Asia Soft, etc)

Salmander · Feb 27, 2021

Oh wow I didn't know switch was getting an asian port! I napped that right up on ebay, this'll be my first time playing through zero! Just gotta wait for international shipping woot

The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki Kai (Switch) comes out in Asia on Feb 25th, eShop page is already up (6.7GB)

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