Nope seemed to be footage from areas we've seen
Nope seemed to be footage from areas we've seen
Hoping it's just buggy due to the pre load going live and so many people downloading. Really want to pre load this thingYeah it's super annoying. Seems buggy all around and maybe we just need to wait a little longer? No idea.
Completely off-topic, but I never realized your website is the one behind WENB, I spent so much time in there checking out PES news back then lol
I don't know what you mean but I wasn't intending to upset anyone. Can you elaborate on why SkillUp was banned? I am new and so maybe I'm not aware of some things, but I thought his review seemed pretty genuine. Again I'm not really aware of context and everything.
In any case, the reviews overall make me want to play the game :)
Woah, like, non at all? What insensitives are there for playing on the harder difficulty? Unlockables ? There has to be something worth while in comparison to very easy?
Not really from a critical perspective. Literary analysis and story analysis requires you to engage with either the entirety of the text or with a microscopic lens to particular ideas within the text. This is an issue that has plagued Day One and Embargo based reviews for years, but is especially apparent with this game where it seems Sony has had an even more strict than usual NDA when it comes to discussing narrative. I appreciate the fact that outlets seem interested in revisiting this topic later on, but it certainly makes reviews and current critical analysis seem incomplete for the time being regardless of which conclusions they come to. Like if someone really loves the narrative of the game, but can't speak to specifically why because it happens at points they're not allowed to discuss and that's the main focus of the entire game is that central narrative, isn't that kind of a big deal that they can't speak to that in any amount of detail? And vice versa if people agree that the narrative doesn't achieve its goals?
There's a lot of games where narrative doesn't matter as much as in this one, but here this is THE defining element Naughty Dog claims to bring to the table. Again, I understand not wanting to spoil people, but there's also a seriously frustrating limit place on people analyzing that core element. Maybe this is just a lot of continued frustration with these types of reviews over the years coming to the surface, but I wish reviewers got more of an opportunity to actually discuss that central element and apply critical lenses to it.
I'm going to be frank, I question the value of a lot of these reviews when they can't talk about the narrative in any serious way since it seems like the NDA required an extremely strict unwillingness to address those topics. On one hand, I get that Sony doesn't want anyone spoiled on the story (at least more than they already are after the leaks)... but on the other, this is an incredibly narrative intensive game and that's the main thing it brings to the table. Not being able to more deeply analyze and critique the narrative, which is objectively meant to be the center piece of the entire game, makes the reviews I've read so far just so incredibly limited and unable to address what the game does on a fundamental narrative level or if it achieves its stated themes, etc. There's been loads of criticism for years regarding the Day One embargo reviews, and this is prime example of that trend hurting the criticism of the game. Some outlets seem to touch upon these elements a little, but it also feels like they're not allowed to devote enough attention to actually discussing the narrative on a critical level because of the embargo...
Would be interested in that as well. I want to go through the Generation with my launch PS4.Are there any new tidbits on the performance on a base PS4? I'm worried it'll explode or something because of this game lol
Never doubted it for a second. Surprised it's not higher, honestly.
Good to know you picked out the one highly negative review to reaffirm your confirmation bias
it will definitely be interesting to see what happens with this. Especially when the harshest critics of the game have mentioned its narrative as a sticking point.Not really from a critical perspective. Literary analysis and story analysis requires you to engage with either the entirety of the text or with a microscopic lens to particular ideas within the text. This is an issue that has plagued Day One and Embargo based reviews for years, but is especially apparent with this game where it seems Sony has had an even more strict than usual NDA when it comes to discussing narrative. I appreciate the fact that outlets seem interested in revisiting this topic later on, but it certainly makes reviews and current critical analysis seem incomplete for the time being regardless of which conclusions they come to. Like if someone really loves the narrative of the game, but can't speak to specifically why because it happens at points they're not allowed to discuss and that's the main focus of the entire game is that central narrative, isn't that kind of a big deal that they can't speak to that in any amount of detail? And vice versa if people agree that the narrative doesn't achieve its goals?
There's a lot of games where narrative doesn't matter as much as in this one, but here this is THE defining element Naughty Dog claims to bring to the table. Again, I understand not wanting to spoil people, but there's also a seriously frustrating limit place on people analyzing that core element. Maybe this is just a lot of continued frustration with these types of reviews over the years coming to the surface, but I wish reviewers got more of an opportunity to actually discuss that central element and apply critical lenses to it.
At the same time there is also a handful of reviews that are extremely positive that also do not have scores attached (GameXplain and Eurogamer)There is something really interesting about how the most negative reviews are mostly from outlets that have dropped review scores, essentially self-selecting negativity out of the whole metascore average.
In the PlayStation OT, some weeks back I said I didn't think the game was going to touch 95 meta because it has too much baggage in terms of expectations and controversy. Then the previews came, and they made me change that stance, so I said it was going to get a 96 meta in this thread. Game is currently at 96 meta but I'm sure with plenty more reviews to come it will probably drop one or two points.
All in all, seems like a stellar title and will likely be contender for GoTG. I loved the first game so much so I can't wait to get my hands on this one.
There is something really interesting about how the most negative reviews are mostly from outlets that have dropped review scores, essentially self-selecting negativity out of the whole metascore average.
BuT wHy CaN't PeOpEl SeE dE tRuZ, iT's JuSt A mOoViE!!
What are the odds of a day one PS5 update, that would increase things like framerate?
I'm honesty curious about those 24 people that voted less than 75. Like, what? Is it just trolling?
I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that choice.
I'm honesty curious about those 24 people that voted less than 75. Like, what? Is it just trolling?
I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that choice.
There is practically nothing here we haven't seen and done repeatedly throughout previous Naughty Dog games. It sets out to surpass its predecessor, but the only meaningful contrast between them is in its even more oppressive bleakness and violence. It digs two graves, fills them with blood, and then just fucking wallows in them.
I'm honesty curious about those 24 people that voted less than 75. Like, what? Is it just trolling?
I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that choice.
There is something really interesting about how the most negative reviews are mostly from outlets that have dropped review scores, essentially self-selecting negativity out of the whole metascore average.
Predicting that the aggregate score of a game like this would be under 75 is an incredibly poorly informed opinion
Same. I just talked with a co-worker and he said his just finished downloading. I'm so jealous right now!Hoping it's just buggy due to the pre load going live and so many people downloading. Really want to pre load this thing
Yeah it's super annoying. Seems buggy all around and maybe we just need to wait a little longer? No idea.
I just initiated the pre load from the online store, i just clicked on 'Download to your PS4' and it worked. You should also check your download list and see if you can initiate from there.Hoping it's just buggy due to the pre load going live and so many people downloading. Really want to pre load this thing
Guaranteed just hating/trolling.
The kind of people who feel like ND games should sit at 75 or less are also convinced that 99% of reviewers are paid off and therefore wouldn't make that prediction since, well, "paid off reviewers" would overrate it anyway.
An opinion nonetheless. I went with the more realistic 90-94 because naughty gods.Predicting that the aggregate score of a game like this would be under 75 is an incredibly poorly informed opinion
the final two sentences in the waypoint review is exactly the thing i was worried about with this game:
I don't know if they'd agree with that considering the Nobody's Perfect trophy in TLOU1 lolHi. We are Naughty Dog and we never made a bad game.
Has a good ring to it.
One more thing. I dont know if reviews touched that but everything from the E3 2018 demo is doable in game. Almost everything. That demo was staged, yeah, we know that. Actual scenes play a little bit differently in the game, but dodging attacks and even arrows or bullets is doable (incredible hard to time but satisfying as hell). Big grunts can really throw you over the counter and you can always take weapons from enemie's hands in final moves. Hovewer, you will have to beat them up a little before being able to do so. Well good luck with that if there are more enemies around. They will fuck you up. This aint assassins creed where 10 enemies just watch you killing everyone one by one.
So, the only thing I wasnt able to replicate was that smooth transitions in animations, where ellie hits the car and bounces off of it to dodge another attack. I dont think its possible to do and i think it was faked. But that was probably the only thing from every gameplay videos and stuff that might be fake. I may be wrong but I put 50 hours in that game and nothing like that ever came up. But dont worry, dodging in fist fights is glorious and Much/Shunhi will have a lot of work with these gifs.
i kid you not there are genuinely people who think the game is emasculating them, to the point where they tried to compare his shoulders across the 2 games, thus spawning the "they shrunk his shoulders" meme