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The Last of Us Part II - Review Thread
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Half half. Tried to see as much as possible, but went a bit faster maybe towards the end
I don't think we have an IRL frame of reference of how would people response to a Zombie pandemic yet? Our pandemic doesn't turn people into cannibals or make them violent, and the whole deal with the spread of violence during war situations is that violence breeds violence.
WOW this is fucking scathing.Following in the grand tradition of Kotaku and Polygon, Rob Zacny at Waypoint was not a fan.
I'm not sure what it is with this particular crew of reviewers, but kotaku, polygon, and waypoint, it seems like they are often very contrarian in their takes. Not that it isn't valid, but it makes me curious why it feels like I can almost always predict what these couple outlets are going to say.
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I love the GameSpot review. They weren't afraid to critique the game knowing they'll get backslash. The first Last of Us is the most overrated game of all time in my opinion. It looks like this one is following its footsteps.
The thing that unites these 3 outlets is that they think that the grand message of TLOU2 is kind of...obvious and doesn't really examine anything new. Sure it's the cycle of violence, but these reviews don't seem to think Naughty Dog added anything new to that conversation.
I wasn't expecting 96 wow... I do not like MC as a judgement on games but that score puts it in perspective with the original. Reviewers think it is even better than that....congratulations to ND and Druckmann, they've more than delivered it seems like.
Not so sure it'll settle there, likely will at 95.
Buy it just might.
I wouldn't say they're contrarian (hard to be that when you haven't seen other folks' reviews), though I think they generally recruit from writers with a history in literary thesis and the like compared to other outlets. Reading their reviews, most of their problems are with the narrative - their gameplay takes are actually in-line with what I've seen elsewhere, as in mostly positive.
I honestly don't blame em for not going with scores because even judging by this thread they'd be dragged for it by people who didn't read the body of the text.
Of course and understandable.
That actually makes things all the more interesting and intriguing for your review for this second part.
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Another ND game and the press falling over themselves. *pretends to be shocked*
If it rises to 97 it will become the highest rated game in the history of Sony's 1st Party studios.
Not really what I was trying to do. It just still(pleasantly) surprises me to see it that high. TLOU2 is cleaning house but I think very few expected it not to.
They literally lost me with the "clip her wings" teaser trailer. I'm sure it's a fantastic game and a technological masterpiece, but stuff like that isn't something I want in my games.
I mean I'm not particularly wowed by ND lately either but I don't think posts like this are necessary.
I appreciate your thoughts, as usual, but aren't you disregarding that the starting point of this sequel is precisely a human community where every individual tries its best? I've neither played the game, obviously, but I don't see how Ellie's trip, wherever it takes her, puts an end to this noble, civilized attempt of living in peace, depicted in the very first hours. What we're meant to experience, what this team wants to show us, from their perspective, is the good and bad in humanity. One doesn't erase the other, whatever its main characters do.
Sadly, no. Just encounter replays.
No, plat is really easy if you dont count hundreds of collectibles. There is less than 30 trophies I guess.
Oh BTW, you cant fucking destroy the vita :D I tried...
I think the outcome of many of the blockbuster games is as predictable.
It comes down to spectacle and "MOAR!" which isn't necessarily bad for the fans of these games but if you compare them to really great games of this generation they are the equalient of decent hollywood action movies.
Review scores are kind of weird since it could be about "this game deliver what it's supposed to" or "how does this game compare to all other games."
A blockbuster movie is not bad because it's not as well acted as the movie shoplifters.
Well deserved Naughty Dog.. you worked REALLY HARD and now it's paying off as expected :-)
Congratulation to them and to us for having another masterpiece right around the corner.
Congratulation to them and to us for having another masterpiece right around the corner.
Yep, at this point the output has turned them into legendary status, if they weren't there already.
I mean TLOU, Uncharted 4, and TLOU2 and the scores those games got is some resume, and that's just their three most recent. The impressive thing with them is their games reached a peak and continue to improve (it seems as again, I need to play TLOU2 to judge if it is indeed better than the first).
People obsessing over the score are braindead. This game is, for better or for worse, an auteur undertaking. Titles like Mario are much easier to gauge, for example: Are the mechanics solid and rewarding? Is the game challenging and fun? How about the technical and artistic aspects?...You know, the usual standards. But when your product deals with such dark themes as the ones highlighted in The Last of Us, you are bound to find more engaged takes, more personal objections and complaints; The criteria get expanded a lot. They might even boil down, as impressions here have sown, to what you felt going through the adventure of Ellie. That TLOU II scores this high despite its very nature is a testament to the colossal efforts of Naughty Dog.
Having said that, I am a squeamish person myself, so I do not know how I will fare with a controller between my hands. I dread to imagine what the impact of a third opus would be on account of the scary realism that could be achieved.
Having said that, I am a squeamish person myself, so I do not know how I will fare with a controller between my hands. I dread to imagine what the impact of a third opus would be on account of the scary realism that could be achieved.
Where is the diverse opinions ? Great movies tend to have a wider breadth of critique.
Thank you re: the trophy clarification, I was really curious what it would entail.
(The poor Vita, lol. It's suffered enough already.)
It ultimately serves the story. I didnt have a single problem with it. It was unpleasant sometimes, but I knew it had to be done that way. I get that some people just couldnt get over it.
I take it you have a Neil Druckman picture next to your one of Klopp? ;)
Not really, there's just hundreds more reviewers.
Parasite: average score was 93 and overall 99% were positive on it.
The 'I need there to be reviews that align with my preconceived notions' thing that always happens in review threads is such a weird phenomenon
Then why let you stealth and bypass murder? Should not the game turn you back and say "can't progress until you've murdered enough living beings"? If not, well... if i am not naturally motivated to do what she does, when something contrary happens in a cutscene I am not feeling what she is. I'm just watching her. Right? Isn't that how interactivity goes? The game should motivate you to play like she does. If it lets you play differently, isn't that saying something? If it's dedicated to telling an important story in an interactive medium, and it gives you that freedom to define her actions, when should a game matter? When you play it? Or when you don't?
Well, I think you'll find it in some of the 8/9ish reviews if you read closely. The violence, the lack of care for certain characters, messy plot, game mechanics being more of a refinement of the first game, the grim dark tone...
I don't know - it seems like if you loved the first, and you're ready to engage with some bleak murderous survival, it can only get better. The story probably will be contentious as many are not too pleased (vaguely) with the tone the game sets. I'm ready and excited for it all, and most excited to play it and have those conversations about what the game excels and maybe struggles with!