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Final predictions?

  • 95-99 (Same as Uncharted 2, The Last of Us)

    Votes: 639 46.6%
  • 90-94 (Same as Uncharted 4, Uncharted 3)

    Votes: 599 43.7%
  • 85-89

    Votes: 90 6.6%
  • 80-84

    Votes: 14 1.0%
  • 75-79

    Votes: 4 0.3%
  • <75

    Votes: 24 1.8%

  • Total voters
    1,370
  • Poll closed .

Armadilo

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,877
there's certain people going to each review and down voting the video review because the people who have played it liked the game and gave it a good review
 

nib95

Contains No Misinformation on Philly Cheesesteaks
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
18,498
Just finished my Accolades work. I hope you like it!

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This looks fantastic, though I think the font is not particularly legible. Needs to be less vertically stretched. I also thing the Last of Us logo might look better on its own slightly higher up. Seems weird to give the two 95's more emphasis than any of the 10's.

Hope you don't mind the constructive criticism lol.
 

TheModestGun

Banned
Dec 5, 2017
3,781
Some gross post in this thread. It's ok not to enjoy misery porn and you shouldn't feel bad about it.
Oh stop this. It's not "misery porn". Saying shit like this is reductive. Being bleak does not make it "pornographic". Sometimes a story only works when it's bleak. Would you seriously call "No Country For Old Men" "misery porn"?

with all that said; it's totally understandable that someone may not be up for a bleak experience.
Maybe it's the one that resonated with how they feel the most. Sometimes you don't share the majority opinion, I sure didn't with the first game.
Well if that's the case then more power to you!
 

jaymzi

Member
Jul 22, 2019
6,546
Basically it always seems to come down to what score Edge gives a game that determines whether it stays the same, moves up or down point on Metacritic lol
 

Greywaren

Member
Jul 16, 2019
9,939
Spain
Well, that Polygon review completely turned me off from the game. I'm sure it's good, it's just not for me. I don't want a game that forces me to kill people, then makes me feel like shit for "choosing" to kill those people. I don't need a morality lesson, I already know killing people is wrong.

Hope you guys enjoy it, though. I'm just gonna skip this one.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,136
There's plenty of evidence to suggest humans are also precisely the opposite in many contexts. Not always

No evidence was bad framing from me, sorry. But studies suggest that humans increase in altruistic behaviour and community formation during disasters.
I do not disagree and you already clarified your statement but I was personally referring to events that happen everyday.
 

Winstano

Editor-in-chief at nextgenbase.com
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
1,834
That's cool to hear. Does that mean people who just want to experience the story can basically make it super easy?
Yep - I'm doing a 'mopping up trophies' run right now, set everything to the lightest options and it's essentially an interactive movie. The accessibility options are incredible as well
 

Katana_Strikes

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 29, 2017
10,752
Damn. I've kept away from spoilers, controversy's and what not and even a lot of the reveals. But it's great to see it get such high praise and it's only a week away now. Can't wait.
 

dreamfall

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,974
The criticism I'm really enjoying. I like that it'll be very divisive and for many, the violence and brutal Incessant grim dark felt ridiculously suffocating. More human enemies to kill, weighty unwieldy weapons, pacing problems and flaws of set piece/cut scenes carrying the heft of the story - this sounds wonderful to me. People vaguely remarking on the characters being completely unlikable making horrible decisions - I'm okay with that too. Heavy, burdensome, overwhelming - it's how I've been feeling of late. Maybe the violence won't reach a higher narrative explanation, but we'll all be miserable and violent together to discuss! Also, the gameplay criticisms of elevating stealth/weapon mechanics, I don't know - I loves it in the first game so if they've tightened it up and tweaked it slightly without a huge overhaul - I'm good for that.
 

JoeNut

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,482
UK
Congratulations ND. not sure this is a game that can be "enjoyed" in the traditional sense by the sounds of it, but I'm definitely looking forward to the ride
 

Estro

Member
Jul 17, 2019
339
Serious question: why hone in on a review that tone dead (I mean, "we're better than Naughty Dog thinks we are"? Seriously) when there are tons of reviews stating the opposite of your concerns?

Beacause it's not tone dead. It echoes a lot of my recent feelings regarding how this game was being presented (and I can assure you I'm not alone in this). Anyone who listened to this week's Triple Click knows Myers is not ignorant about all the horrible things in the world right now. She's not saying they don't exist (I recommend reading the review instead on centering on one line.)

It's enterily valid to feel such a bleak, pessimistic and relentless story is the last thing we need right now, and that if the past week's of protests and shows of solidarity around the world show anything, is that "humans are the real monsters" is a tired and rotten trope and that we're better than that.
 

Knight613

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,789
San Francisco
Alright fine we all suck and should never think otherwise. I should stop trying and just stay inside forever.
It's great to be optimistic. I'm just arguing that the world we live in today is not the world of The Last of Us. And if anything, an apocalypse tends to favor the ruthless and cutthroat people than the ones that just want to help anyone they can. To say that their depiction of how humans would wind up being in the face of a zombie apocalypse isn't at all realistic seems incredibly naive or incredibly optimistic.
 

Oreiller

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,850
Seems like an excellent video game but these reviews confirm it's not a game for me. Don"t think I would be able to stomach this kind of violence.
 

immsun

Banned
Jan 24, 2018
1,246
Well, that Polygon review completely turned me off from the game. I'm sure it's good, it's just not for me. I don't want a game that forces me to kill people, then makes me feel like shit for "choosing" to kill those people. I don't need a morality lesson, I already know killing people is wrong.

Hope you guys enjoy it, though. I'm just gonna skip this one.
Yes shoot some in mp is totally fine.

Chill dude its a game
 

Patitoloco

Member
Oct 27, 2017
23,712
Regarding the leaked spoilers:



So apparently the execution is more important than the spoiler itself, which is great.
 

TheModestGun

Banned
Dec 5, 2017
3,781
Yes, when the most negative one confirms a lot of the fears I recently had with the game (and describes a scene where the game forces you to beat a dog with a pipe while you hear him scream in agony, jesus). It's just not something I want to put myself through right now, and it has confirmed my hunch that I'd better wait and play it sometime down the line.

The rest of the reviews are no less valid, but I can't help but feel either those reviewers don't have the same sensibilities I do, or were afraid to speak honestly about that aspect of the game for fear of the reaction of stepping out of line of the general opinion (the exact kind of reaction Myer's review is being subjected to).
Gotcha, yeah I mean if there is something explicitly stated about the game that makes you deeply uncomfortable with experiencing it then yeah, that's totally valid.
 

Deleted member 2595

Account closed at user request
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,475
the more we see of the game though, the more it seems like an action-adventure set in the same universe as the board game more than the RPG it is based on. they haven't released anything new that has made me think they're gonna push the envelope in areas that aren't production values. they talk the talk a lot in these interviews but i'm waiting to see if they can walk the walk.
I'm pretty confident this is just because non-action gameplay doesn't look good in marketing material.

Plenty of games in the past have had this criticism levelled at their marketing ("It's meant to be an RPG but it just looks like action," "There's no depth here, just aggro gameplay"). Like, anything from Deus Ex Human Revolution to The Witcher 3.

The fact is that deep and intricate gameplay does not translate well to marketing videos where you're trying to convince millions of people (mostly average joes) that this game is cool and they want to buy it.

I firmly believe the level of depth/roleplay you worry about is in Cyberpunk, it just only becomes evident over multiple hours of gameplay, which none of us have seen/experienced yet.
 

Antiax

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,652
AI is as stupid as in the first game and it looks like reviewers think it shouldn't impact their scores. Can't agree with that if the game has the same issues.
 

Gold Arsene

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
30,757
It's great to be optimistic. I'm just arguing that the world we live in today is not the world of The Last of Us. And if anything, an apocalypse tends to favor the ruthless and cutthroat people than the ones that just want to help anyone they can. To say that their depiction of how humans would wind up being in the face of a zombie apocalypse isn't at all realistic seems incredibly naive or incredibly optimistic.
No you're right I get that view. I just have a bad habit of drowning myself in negativity and looking at hopeful things is one of the few things that keeps me sane. Review's showed this isn't a game I should be playing and I should have left it at that. Sorry for dragging this out.
 
Jan 10, 2018
6,927
That's valid criticism, but Naughty Dog games are not choice driven. They are heavily directed experiences, using gameplay and cinematic techniques to tell a story. That's a storytelling style that isn't inferiour to more choice driven ones imo, it's just a different creative choice.

Even though it is true the most important deaths are in cut scènes, I don't think this story would've worked as well if it was a tv-show or movie, but due to the NDA it is impossible to explain why.

Yeah, you have a totally valid point. This is the mindset that I try to have when I play Naughty Dog games these days. I'm fairly sure I will like TLoU2 more than the first one because this time around I'm more prepared for what Naughty Dog might have in store for me. I'm also looking forward to seeing impactful violence on-screen, no matter if it is player controlled or not. That some people are upset and very divisive about it is a plus for me.
 

TheLastYoshi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
878
Studio literally makes games of the year frequently and their gameplay is lauded the world over and you think they would make a better movie studio? Troll harder.

Not trolling, I clarified what I said but their stories are so much better than the gameplay that it's a chore to get through (for me), I rush through it to get to the next storybeat.

Let me put it this way, ND's overall storytelling chops is A+, nobody else even comes close, the actual gameplay is closer to a B for me, it's fun and polished but very repetitive (especially Uncharted).
 

Kerotan

Banned
Oct 31, 2018
3,951
God only looked at the score but 96 after 76 reviews is mighty. Another year another GOTY contender from playstation. Golden gen for the platform. Still have ghost of tsutshima to come too.
 
May 26, 2018
24,025
Yes, that doesn't sound good... just not for making feel you bad but for the lack of choice here.

Yeah, well... it's how linear games work, right? There's only one way to play that matches the story. You play that way and it fits, or you don't and the game feels inconsistent when it takes the controls away.

Some linear games are really good at how they match up so you can't careen too far off course. But if Naughty Dog is letting you play it with stealth, letting you get by challenges without using certain features of the game? It's a bit odd the game doesn't react to that.