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The Last of Us Part II - Review Thread
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Every preview I've seen of Cyberpunk hasn't impressed me at all. Maybe it will be CDPRs Daikatana
Thanks! Glad to hear it runs great.
Look at current events people rather get a haircut then worry about spreading a deadly disease and this is happening worldwide people are more selfish then they think. Or black people willing to brave the world to protest police brutality even though we have a higher risk of dying not only by the virus but the cops as well. Are we really better then this?
What do the difficulty levels do? I assume like the first one the harder it is, the less materials you'll find?
Maybe it's the one that resonated with how they feel the most. Sometimes you don't share the majority opinion, I sure didn't with the first game.
Yes, when the most negative one confirms a lot of the fears I recently had with the game (and describes a scene where the game forces you to beat a dog with a pipe while you hear him scream in agony, jesus). It's just not something I want to put myself through right now, and it has confirmed my hunch that I'd better wait and play it sometime down the line.
The rest of the reviews are no less valid, but I can't help but feel either those reviewers don't have the same sensibilities I do, or were afraid to speak honestly about that aspect of the game for fear of the reaction of stepping out of line of the general opinion (the exact kind of reaction Myer's review is being subjected to).
In regards to the IP, not ND output in general of course. I just feel that the sequel had to prove so much more than an average sequel has to exactly because the original is so special and self contained.
Quite possibly one of the greatest posts I've read on this site.
Completely disagree. Media is a product of its time and real world issues and context are a part of it, whether people like it or not.
I mean sure, but for the great evil in the world there's also examples of great good too.
I'm all for nihilism, which is why I think I'll enjoy this one more than recent ND outings, but I'm just going into what the polygon reviewer might have meant.
Reviews not included yet on Metacritic
https://www.gameover.gr/reviews/41071-the-last-of-us-part-ii-review
10/10
https://www.gamersky.com/review/202006/1296138.shtml
10/10
https://www.everyeye.it/articoli/recensione-the-last-of-us-2-grandi-giochi-generazione-49007.html
10/10
https://www.spaziogames.it/the-last-of-us-part-2-recensione/
10/10
https://www.gamepro.de/artikel/the-last-of-us-part-2-test-review-ps4,3358722,wertung.html
97/100
https://www.thegamesmachine.it/the-last-of-us-part-ii/the-last-of-us-part-ii-recensione/
95/100
https://www.gameover.gr/reviews/41071-the-last-of-us-part-ii-review
10/10
https://www.gamersky.com/review/202006/1296138.shtml
10/10
https://www.everyeye.it/articoli/recensione-the-last-of-us-2-grandi-giochi-generazione-49007.html
10/10
https://www.spaziogames.it/the-last-of-us-part-2-recensione/
10/10
https://www.gamepro.de/artikel/the-last-of-us-part-2-test-review-ps4,3358722,wertung.html
97/100
https://www.thegamesmachine.it/the-last-of-us-part-ii/the-last-of-us-part-ii-recensione/
95/100
I'm just saying our current crisis vastly differs from Last of Us.
Our real world stands in mild (as of now) danger as it deals with vast stupidity and a history of cruelty, as some of us try to do better.
Last of Us has the human race as a delirious dying man pondering the point of existence with his last breath.
Well damn. I'm almost scared to play this now lol Might just need to put it on easy for the first play throughI will hammer it tho.
This is the bleakest and the most uncomfortable game probably to ever release with such budget. First one feels like happy go lucky Uncharted in comparison.
You've seen this movie?
It's this in video game form.
So do all the people not being stupid or the people out their protesting trying to make things better not matter?
Exactly. If anything current and past events are definitely favoring Neils interpretation of us
Just finished my Accolades work. I hope you like it!
Oh man, I have you news about that MC score lol
Absolutely, we can be both. The issue is framing and whether or not such behaviour is exaggerated or believably contextual.
Sure, but all of these examples are also littered with resistance and community formation. Which The Last of Us also presents, which is good. It's a question of exaggeration. It's been long theorised, studied, and documented that human altruism and formation of supportive communities actually increases after disasters (both man made and natural). Fiction gives a lot of wiggle room (unlimited, really), but the scope is the question and whether or not it's exagerrated. Or more importantly, and maybe the root of the criticism; if the brutality of human activity is so exaggerated and vast that it borderlines on the surreal, and an attempt is made to use that as a source of commentary on believable human development and growth, it is possible that said brevity is lost on some audiences because of the aforementioned disbelief.
There's plenty of evidence to suggest humans are also precisely the opposite in many contexts. Not always
No evidence was bad framing from me, sorry. But studies suggest that humans increase in altruistic behaviour and community formation during disasters.
This is true, but also probably the perceived gaudiness of it. Violence is a tricky one because people respond differently, but also the brevity of violent acts can be lost if they're not handled well. Which isn't a case of "too much gore", so much as shlocky writing beating the audience over the head with a point that doesn't land. It's like you could have a scene where, I dunno, a baby is set on fire alive or something and fuck that's traumatic. And then you run into its mother later and she's traumatised. And then you're forced to also set a baby on fire and the protagonist is traumatised. And then you're just like "this is fucking dumb and violent for the sake of being violent and it's so over the top and dumb the impact of said violence has done a U-turn and lost me".
This is a broader criticism of fiction though in general, particularly video games. For some people it lands, for others it doesn't. Spec Ops is a great example of a game having a really significant "be sad" moment that everyone praises that was largely lost on me because I could see it coming from a mile away, the transparent cogs of the writers and designers in clear view. It's nothing to be proud of, sometimes it just comes of as a bit shlocky.
I think the complaint comes from a collected view of all manner of video games and not just the AAA line-up. And the question is a reasonable one if that's how the player feels when interacting with the game. There simply seems to be a disconnect between the violence that is used and/or avoided in-between different controlled scenarios. I don't think you necessarily have to point to past AAA games to make such a remark, but If you are forced to I'm sure there are plenty of games that make examples of these design concepts already. Maybe not as a whole necessarily but in bits and pieces. You mentioned RDR2 for example and while the mission design in that game is rather poorly presented as a player controlled experience there is a lot of thought put into the main character and how the player chooses to steer his personality in various directions. We do not control the initial nature of Arthur but we manage his actions along the way and ultimately decide much of his fate. I think what makes The Last of Us feel extraordinary is its acting and dialogue quality and not necessarily the events that take place. I believe you can set up a good story with lots of great character development without stressing the need for total developer control. I think Naughty Dog at least owe it to themselves to explore these concepts a bit more in the future as they seem to have both the financial resources and creative capacity to push things forward. The path they have set up for themselves have led to great success so far so of course they don't have to do this, but I for one would be happy to see something a bit more riveting and innovative in the future. Something tells me Naughty Dog has a lot more to give if they decide to put their minds to it.
Good lord! Change meta to 96 please and lets pray it stays thereJust finished my Accolades work. I hope you like it!
As someone who loved the first game, but played with the gore toggle off. Based on the conversation in this thread, it seems like this isn't the game for me.
That pretty much sells it to me, even more than it was already sold. I love both versions of that movie, and I also love the works of Iain (M.) Banks, which are usually extremely dark and disturbing. Not trying to play the edgy dude or anything, I just really enjoy fiction that deals with heavy themes.I will hammer it tho.
This is the bleakest and the most uncomfortable game probably to ever release with such budget. First one feels like happy go lucky Uncharted in comparison.
You've seen this movie?
It's this in video game form.
It's a new IP from the makers of Witcher 3. why wouldn't it? I mean assuming it's gonna be good.
We are already tribalistic and violent against "The other" without having to compete for resources. A world like TLOU takes this to new levels:
"Why isn't he seeing the bigger picture and making everything better ):"
I really want to live in this world polygon reviewer lives on.
"Things used to be simpler, monsters were bad, humans good. Now everything's is all confused"
"Used to be exactly the same, you've just forgotten"
Yes, the peaceful protests are great, it is equally amazing to see how other countries gave and continue to give their support during a pandemic, but humans are more than capable of the things being portrayed in this game. I also choose to see the brighter side of the situation we've all found ourselves in but that doesn't erase the fact that humans are capable of great compassion and also great cruelty.
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game is day one for sure but idk, i feel like before the 2018 re-reveal, the hype for the game was truly on another level. more than it is now. a fully-fledged open world cyberpunk RPG is not something you see in the AAA space.
the more we see of the game though, the more it seems like an action-adventure set in the same universe as the board game more than the RPG it is based on. they haven't released anything new that has made me think they're gonna push the envelope in areas that aren't production values. they talk the talk a lot in these interviews but i'm waiting to see if they can walk the walk.
people really gotta lower their expectations for this game, i've seen some wild shit ppl think up and i'm like "these people are going to be so disappointed when the game comes out."
I will hammer it tho.
This is the bleakest and the most uncomfortable game probably to ever release with such budget. First one feels like happy go lucky Uncharted in comparison.
You've seen this movie?
It's this in video game form.
Guessing this is an extreme exaggeration. Funny Games is an anti-consumer troll that jerks off in the audience's face for two hours. Doubt Naughty Dog made a 30 hour long troll.
Somewhat worried reading some reviews after having pre-purchased the game... don't like how some violence have been portrayed at all. There is a specific scene talked about that I highly disliked even just from reading it.
Most of those people would have probably died from a zombie apocalypse. There aren't still billions of people in the world of The Last of Us. Probably not even millions.
Nice, thank you very much for putting the spoilers here...
Sure but it still applies. Even at times of intense hardship during war, aftermath of attacks etc you still see acts of good.
I'm not overly bothered by revelling in nihilism, I think the world is fucked beyond repair, I'm just exploring what the polygon reviewer might have meant.
If Metacritic add those bellow for sure,close to 97 if I guess,too many perfect score no add yet
vgames 10/10
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Absolutely. The proof is in the pudding there. The pudding being "execution". We'll just have to see for ourselves next week. Although at the moment, the majority of reviewers (including Winstano in this very thread) say the level of violence feels earned. Of course, YMMV. Just gotta see how it pans out!
There's reasons for it. Doesn't outstay its welcome
There are so many granular options. You can tweak things like the scarcity of resources, enemy AI, everything. You can customise it to your own liking.
Yea the guy on twitter who was like "it is like 2 seasons of the most brutal and depressing TV show you've ever seen" definitely has me worried
Accidentally got spoiled on Twitter some months back. Wanted to see a reviewer who also got spoiled and see their impressions.
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No spoilers from the game, ofc (including none that were leaked). He basically said the spoilers made him not wanna play the game at all (like myself). However, The game has so much that it builds up to, and so much to say, he's incredibly happy that he did. Glad to hear. I'll probably pick this up then.
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No spoilers from the game, ofc (including none that were leaked). He basically said the spoilers made him not wanna play the game at all (like myself). However, The game has so much that it builds up to, and so much to say, he's incredibly happy that he did. Glad to hear. I'll probably pick this up then.