*looks at other ND scores*
Lightning surely has struck here more than twice.
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The Last of Us Part II - Review Thread
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*looks at other ND scores*
Lightning surely has struck here more than twice.
Thanks all :) I'm still going to try to get it done in 3 days. 10 hours a day seems crazy but I think I can do it, next weekend is going to be Last of Us focused then I can jump into the conversation here :)
Arthur ends up being one of the best characters to ever grace a video game. Just incredible progression, and far more nuanced than what you typically see in a game of that scale. He felt real. That carried much of my love for that game, other than the beautiful scenery and wonderful music.
Which is crazy because I was super disappointed when RDR2 was first shown and I thought he looked like some generic ass cowboy.
I mentioned this in the review - MK and Doom revel in how ridiculous they can get, but TLOU2 makes everything seem 'clumsy' in its efforts. Nothing feels clean when you land a blow or fire a shot, it's messy and it's brutal, but it works
It is clear that they aren't just talking about the dog but about the level of violence in the game in general. As games approach photorealism I don't see why they should be exempt from criticism regarding violence.
As for your view that if you are offended or affected by something you shouldn't comment on it, is just plain dumb.
surely humans can be both? communal and completely vicious murderous fuckheads. witness any nation in history that's committed self-slaughter. completely united, hand in hand, to try and wipe out the human race because of some trick of light and sound.
we're scary fucks sometimes, and sometimes our best traits turn against us.
To be fair, even Druckmann has said you aren't actually supposed to enjoy all the violence. So it seems like the game has succeeded with that, even in the Kotaku and Polygon reviews.
Alright I am done with these reviews. They are all kind of spoiling the game. It seems like Ellie is the villain in this game.
Whatever you say dude, you're right everybody everywhere is awful and no one in the last ten years had ever done anything good ever, I frankly don't know why I even bother getting out of bed in the morning with how unendingly awful everything and everyone is.
Normally I don't really care about the music, but the first game and Death Stranding changed my mind.
I haven't really played RDR 2, but I hear good things about its music too.
Serious question: why hone in on a review that tone dead (I mean, "we're better than Naughty Dog thinks we are"? Seriously) when there are tons of reviews stating the opposite of your concerns?
I was expecting 93-94 due to the violent and depressing nature of the world and story, hence a greater likelihood of lower rated outliers.
This gen it's seemingly been increasingly difficult for violent mature games to reach these sorts of critical heights outside of the open-world ambition of Rockstar titles, and I think some are underselling just how much of an incredible achievement it is for ND to have hit this sort of critical acclaim all over again.
Hell, TLOU2 is now the second highest mature (age rating wise) game this entire gen.
In order of ratings.
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 97
The Last of Us 2 - 96
God of War - 94
Half Life Alyx -93
Persona 5 - 93
Metal Gear Solid V - 93
Uncharted 4 - 93
Bloodborne - 92
The Witcher 3 - 92
This gen it's seemingly been increasingly difficult for violent mature games to reach these sorts of critical heights outside of the open-world ambition of Rockstar titles, and I think some are underselling just how much of an incredible achievement it is for ND to have hit this sort of critical acclaim all over again.
Hell, TLOU2 is now the second highest mature (age rating wise) game this entire gen.
In order of ratings.
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 97
The Last of Us 2 - 96
God of War - 94
Half Life Alyx -93
Persona 5 - 93
Metal Gear Solid V - 93
Uncharted 4 - 93
Bloodborne - 92
The Witcher 3 - 92
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Not surprised at the scores. Also, not surprised at some of the low scores, either.
I'm posting my review tomorrow, and if anyone has questions (that I can answer without breaking embargo rules), shoot!
The Last of Us 2 will most likely be loved by most, but there will be others who won't like some of its design choices -- and these complaints are valid, and not nitpicking in my opinion based on my experience playing it.
I'm posting my review tomorrow, and if anyone has questions (that I can answer without breaking embargo rules), shoot!
The Last of Us 2 will most likely be loved by most, but there will be others who won't like some of its design choices -- and these complaints are valid, and not nitpicking in my opinion based on my experience playing it.
A lot of people were really harsh on Arthur for some irrational reason when Rockstar revealed the game. He and Geralt are THE open world protagonists of this gen. The lines 'I'm afraid' and 'I gave you all I had' were amazing.
I really hope The Last of Us 2 has some quality lines like that. The first game had a few so.
I will hammer it tho.
This is the bleakest and the most uncomfortable game probably to ever release with such budget. First one feels like happy go lucky Uncharted in comparison.
You've seen this movie?
It's this in video game form.
Fuuuuuck lmao. Man this game.
Took me around 25 hours.
All I can say is this game will be highly controversial between players and reviewers alike. From my point it was incredibly memorable experience that I doubt I'll ever forget.
If the game sells millions like the first, it will absolutely be fascinating to see how the audience at-large reacts to it. Pretty unprecedented in the medium.
The Guardian review kinda suggest this with a comparison with Shadow of the Colossus
Lmao good point
Love your post but the leaps in framing humans as being selfish monsters is because we are already in every sense selfish monsters. Hurricane Katrina and others disasters have demonstrated that when left on our own with no help we will protect those closest to us and then if things get bad enough have the capacity to look after only ourselves as well. Neil isn't building his narrative around some wildly unproven theory. I'm sure you have read Night by Elie Wiesel but it's heartbreaking not just because the Holocaust was one of the most tragic events in history but when driven to such extremes he saw daughter against mother. Father against son and people abandoning all sense of morality for survival.
Gamer.no: A bittersweet affair 9/10.
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Totally fine with critical reviews but I totally want to live in that ideal world the Polygon reviewer is imagining.
Because shit has been BAD for us.
Also neat to read different reactions to the story. Cuz that is art ya know.
Because shit has been BAD for us.
Also neat to read different reactions to the story. Cuz that is art ya know.
The ending was such a cop out and completely at odds with what the game was trying to go for.
Nate should have ended up alone on a massive pile of treasure or something. Also his brother shpuld have definitely died. Instead 4 games of wanton destruction and genocide levels of murder end with "he is happy now lol"
Took me 27 hours. That's a number I've seen mentioned elsewhere too (for instance in the Kotaku review)
Studio literally makes games of the year frequently and their gameplay is lauded the world over and you think they would make a better movie studio? Troll harder.
i remember reading on grantland (RIP) this article about the first one, published in '13. https://grantland.com/features/tom-bissell-naughty-dog-latest-game-last-us/
and of course in the years subsequent we gained more insight into what happens at naughty dog.
i have no doubt it's true of this one, too. a brilliant game born of human misery. the critics seem to love it, certainly. and what of the human misery component?
can i in good conscience support something like that? tough question for me. maybe others are indifferent to this but it's not so easy to forget for me.
and of course in the years subsequent we gained more insight into what happens at naughty dog.
i have no doubt it's true of this one, too. a brilliant game born of human misery. the critics seem to love it, certainly. and what of the human misery component?
can i in good conscience support something like that? tough question for me. maybe others are indifferent to this but it's not so easy to forget for me.
Haha, fuck, amazing.I will hammer it tho.
This is the bleakest and the most uncomfortable game probably to ever release with such budget. First one feels like happy go lucky Uncharted in comparison.
You've seen this movie?
It's this in video game form.
Haneke redeemed (in gaming)
Not to sound bleak but there is enough evidence of humans being muderous, animalistic monsters in the world right now. I personally believe the only thing exaggerated is the sheer amount of people that turn out that way in the game.