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Oct 27, 2017
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But I thought people on here said that Sony does not allow nudity anymore on PlayStation cause a bunch of anime games with really suspicious looking young characters got censored?!?!?
 

GonXtreme

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Dec 13, 2017
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Memento

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
8,129
Not feeling the whole mature thing on this game...

First, they claim the extreme violence has a context. Now nudity and sexual themes.

I do trust Naughty Dog, but this is starting to feel like... too much I guess....

In the meantime... let's wait and see what Druckman is about to do.

What exactly is your problem?

I dont get it
 

Mechaplum

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Oct 26, 2017
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JP
Not feeling the whole mature thing on this game...

First, they claim the extreme violence has a context. Now nudity and sexual themes.

I do trust Naughty Dog, but this is starting to feel like... too much I guess....

In the meantime... let's wait and see what Druckman is about to do.

Were you expecting ponies and rainbows in a post apocalyptic game?
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
23,655
Not feeling the whole mature thing on this game...

First, they claim the extreme violence has a context. Now nudity and sexual themes.

I do trust Naughty Dog, but this is starting to feel like... too much I guess....

In the meantime... let's wait and see what Druckman is about to do.
The horror, nudity and sexual themes in the medium's equivalent of an R-rated movie

I'd bet money that nothing here is going to come close to stuff like Verhoeven's Flesh+Blood

Odd to phrase it as "they claim", as if you think they're lying or something
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
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Rape is out of question without the Sexual Violence description. A few years ago only two games ever got that. One was some visual novel and the other was Ground Zeroes.

Is that true? I can think of a ton of games even back then that featured pretty clear sexual violence (Metro Last light for example).
 

Brotherhood93

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Oct 28, 2017
2,828
This is basically the extent of the "Nudity" that will be in the game. The character is "naked" but lighting/camera angles will obscure any anatomical details. People thinking (hoping?) for explicit dicks-out stuff are weird.
Nah, it's going to be more than that because what you're describing would get a partial nudity description. "Nudity" under the ESRB is used for what they describe as "Graphic or prolonged depictions of nudity".
My assumption was that shot was edited or carefully selected for the trailer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see genitalia in that scene in the actual game, don't have much context for what is happening there but if they're going to have a guy stripped naked in full shot I don't see them being afraid to show nudity. I think that would be enough without anything else to get these tags if that is the case too. Don't really see the need for wild speculation from some people.
 

OmegaDL50

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Oct 25, 2017
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While I'm more inclined to give ND the benefit of the doubt, I'd hope they do this in a tasteful manner and not just throw in nudity and sexual content just for the sake of being provocative.
 

Jakartalado

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Oct 27, 2017
2,291
São Paulo, Brazil
What exactly is your problem?

I dont get it

I guess we both live in Brazil so... we do have a lot of problems. (Nice avatar by the way)

My fear is to tackle on so many themes vaguely. The first game manage to approach sexual harassment and sexuality in a very interesting way with Ellie and Bill.

To mix more themes demands more caution. But again... I do trust Naughty Dog handle this.
 

scrambledeggs

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Apr 25, 2018
486
Sexual Content is def Dina and Ellie making out a lot. Have y'all seen how ND did their first kiss? The realism probably got ESRB shook. Also I feel female sexuality is rated harsher anyway.

First game got Sexual Themes for Ellie being a little shit about Bill's magazines lol.

There's also separate Strong Sexual Content and Sexual Violence descriptors, so we know it ain't gonna be anything explicit and there's no rape/sexual assault.

Nudity is definitely attributed to the torture/interrogation scene.
 

Cipherr

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Oct 26, 2017
13,489
This thread is a really good example of the whole "Americans are more afraid of sex than violence," thing.

Naughty Dog can base pretty much their entire early marketing campaign around brutal uncut violence and nobody cares but when there's even a hint that there might be some sexy times (there won't be) there's cause for a thread and a news story on the matter.

Im sure us yanks are just "scared of the sex" and it has absolutely nothing to do with people worrying that it will be handled poorly, distastefully or otherwise be shoehorned in for no reason. ND pedigree alleviates these concerns to some degree..... SOME degree, but the concern is still there, and warranted IMO considering the industries past.

C'mon man... jesus.

Were you expecting ponies and rainbows in a post apocalyptic game?


I wasn't expecting sex. I'll be completely freaking 100 with you on that one.
 

Memento

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
8,129
I guess we both live in Brazil so... we do have a lot of problems. (Nice avatar by the way)

My fear is to tackle on so many themes vaguely. The first game manage to approach sexual harassment and sexuality in a very interesting way with Ellie and Bill.

To mix more themes demands more caution. But again... I do trust Naughty Dog handle this.

Yes I am from Brazil! There are a lot of brazilians here hum??? That is awesome haha

Now I got your point btw. I feel like the story will be much more complex this time though, so I am confident they are ready to pull it off with the necessary care the themes demands
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This thread is a really good example of the whole "Americans are more afraid of sex than violence," thing.

Naughty Dog can base pretty much their entire early marketing campaign around brutal uncut violence and nobody cares but when there's even a hint that there might be some sexy times (there won't be) there's cause for a thread and a news story on the matter.
That's pretty disingenuous considering the early trailers prompted much discussion of their portrayals of violence.
 

BrickArts295

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Oct 26, 2017
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There was a naked dude in the last trailer so that's probably it to be honest. As for sexual content, well Neil did say the story was somewhat inspired by The End of the F-ing World show and if you have seen that then you pretty much have a good idea about what kind of sexual content we might see.
 

Rippa

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Feb 15, 2018
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Uuuummm......Why am I remembering Max Payne 3 having some sexually explicit shit in it?
 

Zaubrer

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Oct 16, 2018
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Cus as we all know, nothing with nudity of any kind has ever been successful in the US.
age ratings are a thing that affect sales numbers, aren't they? I mean, of course mature content can be successful (I think the porn industry is worth more than Hollywood) but I don't think Naughty Dog are targeting that kind of audience.

/edit

eh well, I think that comment could be read in a wrong way. my point: age ratings are a thing and especially video game companies (and big movies as well) try not to be rated for adulty only to maximize profits.
 

Naga

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Aug 29, 2019
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Not surprising if you've watched the trailers.
But I thought people on here said that Sony does not allow nudity anymore on PlayStation cause a bunch of anime games with really suspicious looking young characters got censored?!?!?
Strawman aside, I'm pretty sure people saying that always pointed out how it wasn't the case for western games and big budget ones (outside of the weird issue for DMCV).
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
11,869
Here's the ESRB for Last Light


No Sexual Violence listing. What exactly was it? I remember playing through it, but I don't recall any rape scene.

There's an optional bit on a train were two soldiers are trying to rape a woman. If you don't save her they accidently kill her before they can carry out the the act.

I mean it's not a graphic depiction of a rape but it still seems like it should qualify for the sexual violence category.
 

Memento

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
8,129
There was a naked dude in the last trailer so that's probably it to be honest. As for sexual content, well Neil did say the story was somewhat inspired by The End of the F-ing World show and if you have seen that then you pretty much have a good idea about what kind of sexual content we might see.

I didnt. What are the sexual content depicted there? Spoiler tag it for others