Every single one of my friends is loving the game and think it's better than the first. I think this release is huge. There's already 30 people on my listed that have started it. Other big releases are usually around 20 people at this point.
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The Last of Us 2 is getting review bombed on Metacritic for minority representation & more, and I'm pissed [Tag Spoilers Clearly]
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You literally answered your own question? The bad faith bigoted brigade shit makes legimate discussion impossible because bigots just throw fuel on the fire whenever things might calm down into something reasonable (just look at people in this thread posting 4Chan memes that disprove themselves and acting like r/lastofus2 has "legitimate concerns".)
This is some great detox for this bullshit LMAO.
R/GamingCirclejerk has been doing this since the day after the original leak wave. It most of all lead to this:
@Neil_Druckmann
Vice President of Naughty Dog, Writer/Director of video games, abuser of characters' shoulders. Currently on: The Last of Us Part II
It originated with this on the TLoU2 hate-reddit: That's weird. They shrank his shoulders, made him look soft.
My favorite edit so far, outside of the Horse Men from Sorry to Bother You, is the reversal of the meme in response to the beefy as fuck redesign of Chris in RE8.
@Neil_Druckmann
Vice President of Naughty Dog, Writer/Director of video games, abuser of characters' shoulders. Currently on: The Last of Us Part II
It originated with this on the TLoU2 hate-reddit: That's weird. They shrank his shoulders, made him look soft.
My favorite edit so far, outside of the Horse Men from Sorry to Bother You, is the reversal of the meme in response to the beefy as fuck redesign of Chris in RE8.
Then they're gonna say that it's Sony themselves buying all the copies lol.
Game sold massive amounts before anyone even played it, i'd be more interested in week 2 and future numbers
Those people and the people below are 2 circles on top of each other:
Disney bought $1.128 billion worth in tickets. Of course!
The highest selling PS 4 games:
List of best-selling PlayStation 4 video games - Wikipedia
It's incels. They're beyond obsessed with bone structure.R/GamingCirclejerk has been doing this since the day after the original leak wave. It most of all lead to this:
@Neil_Druckmann
Vice President of Naughty Dog, Writer/Director of video games, abuser of characters' shoulders. Currently on: The Last of Us Part II
It originated with this on the TLoU2 hate-reddit: That's weird. They shrank his shoulders, made him look soft.
My favorite edit so far, outside of the Horse Men from Sorry to Bother You, is the reversal of the meme in response to the beefy as fuck redesign of Chris in RE8.
I don't get why people are saying that ND are "forcing" an agenda on them, nobody is forcing you to buy this game. There are tons of male power fantasys out there that are full of fan service for you to buy.
For fuck sake, don't do this to devs, I'm so happy they went the way they did with the story.
And I have no problem with people not liking where they took the story. But saying it's badly written is just is just silly.
For fuck sake, don't do this to devs, I'm so happy they went the way they did with the story.
And I have no problem with people not liking where they took the story. But saying it's badly written is just is just silly.
I'm on Seattle day 3. Can someone tell me without spoilers what the actual criticism is? Not interested in the alt-right internet people bullshit. Is the actual criticism just a myth? Personally really impressed with the game so far. Specific example of things handled poorly? Or have I not gotten to the parts of concern?
Yeah but that's not what I'm saying, my opinions line up with reviewers and sometimes they don't that's kind of the thing about reviews, they are thoughts and feelings from a person who happens to be someone that critics in this case games.
We see the scores and we read/watch reviews and than when we decide that we like what we hear and buy the game yet when our opinion don't match theirs we become hostile to reviewers and say that they don't matter.
Your interest should always, in the case of video games, be the deciding matter, reviews and opinions are secondary if that.
(this post gets my opinion across better than the last one) I take metacritic scores more serious than I should. Thing is I should have listened to reviews of Sinking City, man was that a waste of 60 dollars.... In the end my interest in the Last of us part 2 is what made me decide to buy it. Me liking/loving it is a whole another thing.
@Lant_War I too noticed that but it goes a tiny bit deeper. US Germans can spot Nazis just like that. They love measuring bones:
en.wikipedia.org
All of this really started with Dina´s nose. A teenage (19) lesbian protagonist may have been fine for them but mixing races? Big no. Neil Druckmann is further Jewish. Sony is funding the Zionist Agenda according to these Neo-Nazis.
The actual press is picking up on the hate campaign so the game´s social clout is through the roof right now:
www.latimes.com
Craniometry - Wikipedia
The actual press is picking up on the hate campaign so the game´s social clout is through the roof right now:
Inside 2020's most anticipated — and targeted — game: violence, a virus, an LGBTQ love story
Ex 'Westworld' writer Halley Gross joins Neil Druckmann to create the unexpectedly timely story in "The Last of Us Part II" set in a virus-ravaged world
www.latimes.com
This game is not anywhere close to terribly written.
I am sure the vast majority of people who bought the game have no idea who he is besides seeing his name in the credits.
Hard to say anything without spoilers. Finish the game, if you feel the same way, venture into the spoiler thread and I'm sure there will be plenty of legitimate criticism there.
All art is political and so far one of my favorite things about TLOU 2 is its good and correct agenda, sorry nerds
Very broadly I would say that "pacing" is a legitimate criticism of the games story.
Men are terrified of engaging with gay material because the "gay" kids got beat up on the playground.The whole 'forced agenda' argument is just so lolworthy.
Like, what's the idea behind that argument to begin with? You see a gay character and you go "Noo, I'm going turn gay now!" Is that really how they think it works?
Anything that could potentially awaken anything not 100% straight in them is seen with pure ire and fear.
The narrative people make to fit with their angry is incredible.Those people and the people below are 2 circles on top of each other:
Disney bought $1.128 billion worth in tickets. Of course!
The highest selling PS 4 games:
The remaster of the original alone sold 10 mil! I´ll eat my own PlayStation if TLoU2 doesn´t sell at least 10 mil this gen. It took GoW 2018 about a year to sell 10 mil. The sequel might do it a tiny bit faster after all this. Game sequels selling better than the original is kind of a thing and the PS4 is in a better place than the PS3 on top of that.List of best-selling PlayStation 4 video games - Wikipedia
Just the idea of queerness, that a person would be attractive to a person with the same gender, breaks down old lessons of gender role, themes, and many other once held believed ideas. Fear of change and the feeling that what you learned to get by in life is a lie and you did something wrong even when it completely harmless and really doesn't change who you are but just what you think.The whole 'forced agenda' argument is just so lolworthy.
Like, what's the idea behind that argument to begin with? You see a gay character and you go "Noo, I'm going turn gay now!" Is that really how they think it works?
The worst part isn't what you learned wasn't right is to try to challenge that change as if it something to suppress and eliminate.
This is a ridiculous take. As a POC gay guy, I definitely have it much worse then a white gay dude. Not only do I have to deal with the general racism, but I also have to deal with the fact that I am gay. I have been called a fa***t and terrorist on several occasions. Despite my experience, a lot of my gay white friends and lovers have dealt with difficulties on their own as well. A friend of mine who is 30 now was kicked out of his house by his mom when he was 18. He was homeless for a year. His family hasn't seen him since he left. Other friend lost his kids when they turned on him. I still remember how teary eyed he was when the topic was brought up.
I can't even begin to bring up transgender people regardless of race. They get shunned away relatively quickly. They lose their jobs and families regardless of race. Being POC just makes it much worse. Does that mean white LGBTQ have it good and are not treated as minority? Fuck no. Don't minimize people's pain like that. It's ignorant, and clearly insensitive.
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Ok thanks. I didn't know where I'd need to be to start reading. I'll wait until I'm finished, no problem.
Appreciate the response.
Have you played the game or are you one of those people who have been in been in the spoiler thread day 1 who think they have a valid opinion?
It's not a myth. There's validity to it all. As someone whose a huge TLOU fan. Spent thousands on lithographs, collector editions etc, I was very disappointed.
It's hard without spoiling. I'll just say the following. The first 15-16 hours or so, I was feeling it. I would say it was a 9. Really enjoyed the mechanics, graphics, the atmosphere. Eventually something happens in the story that just didn't pay off for me, and unfortunately that part goes on for a long time. It dropped it to about a 7.
Then there's a whole other thing that we just can't mention since it's an essential piece of the story which made me hate the game. It rubbed me off so wrong that I questioned what was the whole point. Why would they go this route?
I was one of those defending the game so much before playing it. Thinking it was getting negative reviews solely on certain character interpretations. But that wasn't the case at all. Grabbed it, streamed 15 hours straight. Slept 5 hours. Back to playing 11 straight and beat it. A day and a half later I'm still smh disappointed and now want to be one of those that gives it a 5 on metacritic. Ironic considering the first half of the game had me super hooked.
Tbh your comments are pretty bigoted lol, other people cannot express their own opinion that differs from mine! You like the execution, but almost everyone i know hated the story and just tried to slog through the game in hopes of a payoff.
It's not that "everyone you know" opinion doesn't matter, it's that your opinion doesn't matter. You should be more upfront that you haven't played the game so that everyone stops wasting their time with you.
"By calling other people bigots you're the real bigot". lol this fucking shit
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I'd actually been pretty on the fence about getting TLoU2. I liked the first one a lot, but I dunno, I didn't see much appeal in more of the same.
But, because of all the the review bombing, etc., I decided to give a shot. Anything that "fOrCeS tHe SJW aGeNdA" has never let me down, and I'm so glad I didn't wait on it. I'm 10 hours into it, and there's so many things I love about it. (And an entire submenu for easing motion sickness!) It's easily the best game I've played in a while.
But, because of all the the review bombing, etc., I decided to give a shot. Anything that "fOrCeS tHe SJW aGeNdA" has never let me down, and I'm so glad I didn't wait on it. I'm 10 hours into it, and there's so many things I love about it. (And an entire submenu for easing motion sickness!) It's easily the best game I've played in a while.
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Mass Effect 3 doubled the sales and became massive commercial success compared to the ME 2 despite of the plot and controversial endings, I think situation would be similar. It would become the Last Jedi of video game, it would deeply divide the fanbase and further affect the development of sequel.
Spot on
I didn't finished yet, didn't know was fake,but I manage to avoid all the spoilers
This is dumb, man.
Do some of you just mindlessly repost alt-right idiocy?
Ellie is gay. Jesse knows she's gay. That's it. That's the joke.
Most people that play this game are going to line up for another, I doubt there are that many dipshits that are going to be riled up by the characters in the game... just some vocal dumbasses
It's a lesbian making a joke about not being into her male friend.
Wow. You don't get it?
Man what a goldmine. Reading that reddit was extremely satisfying. All of this outrage is so unjustified but the game is already shaping up to be a huge success so all their kicking and screaming is worthless
Hah! JFC. People can't even correctly interpret a scene as basic as that and yet they feel like they can come around and defend the "thoughtful criticism" surrounding the "story and writing" or whatever. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised based on the comprehension levels I've seen coming from most of these posts.
Funny you just to gun to easily accuse of others as "posing alt-right idiocy" .
PSN Asia (excluded Japan) The Last of Us 2 got 2.5/5 overall 2000+buyer review: the lowest score Sony
The Last of Us™ Part II 스탠다드 에디션 (중국어(간체자), 한국어, 태국어, 영어, 중국어(번체자))
질병이 삼켜버린 미국을 횡단하고 5년이 흐른 지금, 엘리와 조엘은 와이오밍주 잭슨에 정착했습니다. 비록 감염자나 다른 절박한 생존자들로부터 위협을 받기도 하지만, 번영하는 생존자 마을에 정착한 이후 그들은 평화와 안정을 느끼고 있었습니다. 하지만 한 폭력적인 사건으로 그 평화가 위험해지자, 엘리는 정의를 내리고 일을 마무리하기 위한 무자비한 여정을 시작합니다. 사건의 주모자들은 한 명씩 사냥하며, 그녀는 자기 행동에 따른 육체적이고 정신적인 결과와 마주하게 됩니다. 깊고 감성적인 스토리 엘리의 무자비한 복수와, 점점...
store.playstation.com
I watched a lot of streamers play-through from Hongkong and Taiwan, none of the streamers concluded they loved the overall story.Most felt frustrated towards the endings.Main complaints are related to the story,poor portraits of Asian characters and differentiation of established characters compared to pt 1.
Across all mainland China,Hongkong and Taiwan video game forum, regardless political spectrum, the users scores are overwhelmingly negative.The poor written joke I posted became a meme to pass around internet. People are generally upset about it. So race joke is OK when it happens to Asians?
This game would be extremely divisive across the fanbase and no everyone would have to love the story of game. Even now you go the r/thelastofus, some die-hard fans even some mod members express their disappointment related to the game's story.
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I'm sure this is totally legitimate and bad faith review bombers are only a western thing
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"Everyone who dislikes the game is a bigot".
No, and this thread isn't about that. This thread is about bad faith actors organizing a hate campaign against the game.
We're not talking about valid criticisms or negative reviews. It's about this 0/10 review bombing phenomenon by thousands of users mere hours after the game came out.
If you have good faith criticisms, im sorry that your voices are being obscured by a sea of shit. But that's what this thread is about, the sea of shit.
Also, as a side note..."blindly giving a 10/10 review is just as bad". No, it's really not. It may be just as useless of a review as a 0/10, from a person-looking-for-information-about-the-game perspective, but one of these reviews comes from a place of fanboyism, at worst, and the other from a place of coordinated hate and negativity.
No, and this thread isn't about that. This thread is about bad faith actors organizing a hate campaign against the game.
We're not talking about valid criticisms or negative reviews. It's about this 0/10 review bombing phenomenon by thousands of users mere hours after the game came out.
If you have good faith criticisms, im sorry that your voices are being obscured by a sea of shit. But that's what this thread is about, the sea of shit.
Also, as a side note..."blindly giving a 10/10 review is just as bad". No, it's really not. It may be just as useless of a review as a 0/10, from a person-looking-for-information-about-the-game perspective, but one of these reviews comes from a place of fanboyism, at worst, and the other from a place of coordinated hate and negativity.
Funny you just to gun to easily accuse of others as "posing alt-right idiocy" .
PSN Asia (excluded Japan) The Last of Us 2 got 2.5/5 overall 2000+buyer review: the lowest score SonyExclusivegame ever got:
The Last of Us™ Part II 스탠다드 에디션 (중국어(간체자), 한국어, 태국어, 영어, 중국어(번체자))
질병이 삼켜버린 미국을 횡단하고 5년이 흐른 지금, 엘리와 조엘은 와이오밍주 잭슨에 정착했습니다. 비록 감염자나 다른 절박한 생존자들로부터 위협을 받기도 하지만, 번영하는 생존자 마을에 정착한 이후 그들은 평화와 안정을 느끼고 있었습니다. 하지만 한 폭력적인 사건으로 그 평화가 위험해지자, 엘리는 정의를 내리고 일을 마무리하기 위한 무자비한 여정을 시작합니다. 사건의 주모자들은 한 명씩 사냥하며, 그녀는 자기 행동에 따른 육체적이고 정신적인 결과와 마주하게 됩니다. 깊고 감성적인 스토리 엘리의 무자비한 복수와, 점점...store.playstation.com
I watched a lot of streamers play-through from Hongkong and Taiwan, none of the streamers concluded they loved the overall story.Most felt frustrated towards the endings.Main complaints are related to the story,poor portraits of Asian characters and differentiation of established characters compared to pt 1.
Across all mainland China,Hongkong and Taiwan video game forum, regardless political spectrum, the users scores are overwhelmingly negative.The poor written joke I posted became a meme to pass around internet. People are generally upset about it. So race joke is OK when it happens to Asians?
I am sure some people had already seen infamous clips that some Korean Streamers uninstalled the game and cut down the disc.
This game would be extremely divisive across the fanbase and no everyone would have to love the story of game. Even now you go the r/thelastofus, some die-hard fans even some mod members express their disappointment related to the game's story.
Which poor portraits of Asian characters were in this game? Jesse? really?
Common criticisms I observed on steams are:Jesse's personality are boring and he only served/died as canon-fodder/cringey ex-boyfriend/the one got ntr. Everyone knows he would die as soon as he shows up as Dina's ex
His English VA was fine, is an entertaining side character among a cast of many and gets quite a lot of screen time. Even being a main character in this game doesn't protect you from being killed unceremoniously.
I don't see what any of that has to do with depictions of Asian characters. You're going to have to be more specific.
So I hadn't had a look on metacritic, so I thought I'd check it out.
But most of these reviews are stupid.
I've collected a good selection of the latest reviews
As you can see these are some well reasoned and nuanced opinions.
Naughty Dog:
