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The lack of good WARHAMMER 40,000 games is criminal.
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Joe Mad art directed 40k? In my veins... But yeah, not a good idea to do a MMO while your published is on the verge of bankruptcy :(
Good? Yes. Dawn of War, Space Marine and Fire Warrior I really the only main ones that come to mind. There's others that are OK but I wouldn't say they achieve levels of greatness.
There certainly isn't a lack of 40k licensed games. Doesn't seem like they've really had good quality control on the branding. It's kind of surprising really, it's a pretty popular and expensive world, seems right for some really good games.
I always thought RTS was the perfect home for it but I wouldn't mind seeing another character action game like Space Marine again.
There certainly isn't a lack of 40k licensed games. Doesn't seem like they've really had good quality control on the branding. It's kind of surprising really, it's a pretty popular and expensive world, seems right for some really good games.
I always thought RTS was the perfect home for it but I wouldn't mind seeing another character action game like Space Marine again.
Yeah, WH40K: Dark Millennium was the title. I'm fairly certain it would have been one of the best 40k games had it seen the light of day.
Creative Assembly is the only group I trust to do the universe any justice at this point.
I'd love to see their take on a 40K game.
I'd love to see their take on a 40K game.
I didn't play it before the patch but it's a decent hack & slash now.
Notoriously bungled IP. We need another COH style Dawn of War and a proper tabletop-esque turn based game.
Well they started it back during Darksiders 1 development and it was canceled way before THQ bankruptcy
I shared a few drinks with some senior guys from Vigil a couple years after the collapse of THQ, and from their stories, it sounded like budget was pretty much a concern from the get go for the game (this being the time when every AAA publisher wanted their WoW killer, and was willing to invest big money to compete). They were for example going up against SWTOR in the sci-fi MMO space.
That's the problem with 40k, I think. It is not big enough to warrant the huge budget for something like this, while at the same being a licensed IP that the publisher does not have full control of.
Protect your heart. The campaign is a glorified tutorial.
They didn't even bring back Paul Dobson to voice Gabriel F. Angelos. It plays like unadulterated heresy.
Dude they have Gabriel in Terminator armor doing leaping front flips with his force hammer, I shit you not. It's a cartoon.
This makes me sad. Gabriel Angelos in DoW 1 and 2 was just so fucking boss. And not in a cartoon way.
Yeah, it's too bad, because the IP fits perfectly with something like that.
Not really, since things can involve very small skirmishes or even just personal vendettas. Despite the taglines like "there is only war" etc, WH40K lends itself well to stories both big and small.
100%
I fucking love Dance of the Cryptek. As a Necrons player, it fuels me.
nah, For example you can do a game about the horus heresy (which there are about at least 10 different videogames about), and all the xenos players will complain about not being in the game. It's really hard to fit everything in the universe into a game, so most developers just focus purely on space marines because they're pretty simple to do.
It's really hard to make a definitive warhammer 40k game. Much easier to make say a Necromunda game or something like that.
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Why on earth would it need to be a 'definitive' 40K game? Just 'a' 40K game can be plenty interesting. People bitch about this and that missing from all kinds of games with established settings, but that doesn't mean that one *has* to fit the whole smorgasbord into it.
Fuck it, you say Necromunda would make for a good setting and that is a part of 40K. A Nercomunda game would be a 40K game, a good example of a smaller scale one.
It has to be a grand strategy game to do it justice.
I'm just not sure how Creative assembly can do it using the Total War formula. One of the best aspects of Total War is how pretty the maps are and the tactical things you can do with them. There's not much you can do when all your settle ententes are essentially solar systems and just function as nodes.
But I have no doubt that they are going to try it after Total War Warhammer trilogy is done. I think they know that Total War Fantasy is where the real money is going to be. They've done such a great job with Warhammer Fantasy.
I'm just not sure how Creative assembly can do it using the Total War formula. One of the best aspects of Total War is how pretty the maps are and the tactical things you can do with them. There's not much you can do when all your settle ententes are essentially solar systems and just function as nodes.
But I have no doubt that they are going to try it after Total War Warhammer trilogy is done. I think they know that Total War Fantasy is where the real money is going to be. They've done such a great job with Warhammer Fantasy.
I'll be honest, I really want a Battlefield-esque game set in the universe with as many of the factions represented as possible. The all-out absurdity of the large scale conflict is the only thing that hasn't been represented yet in some way and I want some action games in the universe where I don't have to play as Space Marines.
Go watch Astartes and then cry some more. We've been forsaken.
It's an issue of lack of recognition nowadays due to waning interest because Games Workshop was so terrified of losing figure sales. Then lack of big companies wanting to handle the property, after mediocre sales etc. It's just a crappy cycle.
It's an issue of lack of recognition nowadays due to waning interest because Games Workshop was so terrified of losing figure sales. Then lack of big companies wanting to handle the property, after mediocre sales etc. It's just a crappy cycle.
Yup, They could have made a last stand game only with all classes and different maps and upgrades and I would buy it but we are definitly in the minority on that one.
Wasn't it popular enough from Retribution that they did a Stand Alone of Last Stand? I think it was only $10.
It's better since the expansion came out, but man I'd love more of a Mass Effect But Warhammer 40K instead of Diablo But Warhammer 40K.
Oh how I yearn for Space Marine II.
40k has a large and diverse lore, I know the industry tends to focus on games that involve mainly the Imperium, but honestly, that likely helps it's more mass appeal than say an Eldar or Tau (oh Firewarrior) game.
While I'd fully support the idea of a 'mass budget AAA' 40k game, seems rather unlikely (for now at least). Such is the same with DnD and MTG, sure there are some larger games in those properties, much like 40k, but something on the scale of Mass Effect or Halo (scope and budget) is probably not in the cards. There are some great 40k games that can scratch that itch, the ones from Focus as shown above and of course, Relics amazing contributions.
That being said, with the new Eisenhorn TV series, Angels of Death animated series, etc, I think that will help expand the interest in the hobby and IP even further and the chances of games we want, would become more likely.
Also, show the Sororitas some love ;)
40k has a large and diverse lore, I know the industry tends to focus on games that involve mainly the Imperium, but honestly, that likely helps it's more mass appeal than say an Eldar or Tau (oh Firewarrior) game.
While I'd fully support the idea of a 'mass budget AAA' 40k game, seems rather unlikely (for now at least). Such is the same with DnD and MTG, sure there are some larger games in those properties, much like 40k, but something on the scale of Mass Effect or Halo (scope and budget) is probably not in the cards. There are some great 40k games that can scratch that itch, the ones from Focus as shown above and of course, Relics amazing contributions.
That being said, with the new Eisenhorn TV series, Angels of Death animated series, etc, I think that will help expand the interest in the hobby and IP even further and the chances of games we want, would become more likely.
Also, show the Sororitas some love ;)
I want a tap tap Citybuilder Mobile Game where you're an Imperial Fists Chapter Master Fortifying a Forgeworld.
Before Necromunda the devs made Mordheim which is a similar game to Necromunda but in the fantasy setting. The game actually plays a lot like Valkyria Chronicles. You'll be fine.
I am frankly disappointed by the many loyalists in this thread, where is the love for the far superior alien races?
Dark Crusade will always be, to me, the definitive RTS experience. Good campaign, bit short, with different playable races. Just pick one and roll through, it's always been extremely satisfying.
The second Dawn of War upped the ante with animations and movement, seeing my favourite unit, the Howling Banshees, leap over chest high walls is very lovely to see. Tanks busting through terrain is a nice addition and allows for a few surprise moves.
I don't care for the actual gameplay much in that one. It's campaign and such don't interest me.
In fact it always bothered me how the vanilla experiences always came packaged with Space Marine campaigns, arguably the least interesting race to me, and not much else.
Dark Crusade will always be, to me, the definitive RTS experience. Good campaign, bit short, with different playable races. Just pick one and roll through, it's always been extremely satisfying.
The second Dawn of War upped the ante with animations and movement, seeing my favourite unit, the Howling Banshees, leap over chest high walls is very lovely to see. Tanks busting through terrain is a nice addition and allows for a few surprise moves.
I don't care for the actual gameplay much in that one. It's campaign and such don't interest me.
In fact it always bothered me how the vanilla experiences always came packaged with Space Marine campaigns, arguably the least interesting race to me, and not much else.
Grimdark Pikmin clone where you play as an Ork warboss who crashed on a jungle deathworld filled with monster sized predators
Running around a map, literally throwing lesser orks into battle while you hammer the WAAAGH button
Running around a map, literally throwing lesser orks into battle while you hammer the WAAAGH button