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The lack of Arslan Ash in "The Game Awards" eSports player of the year is a fucking embarassment and genuinely mindboggling
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Predictable. Game Awards are heavily decided by people who don't play fighting games (or sports games or racing games) and are certainly not up with the esports side of things. I think this is indicative of what happens when you have people who are general big-picture watchers trying to exert influence over every piece and parcel of the whole industry. It doesn't go well. I was recently turned onto The Hollywood Reporter's Brutally Honest Oscars Ballots where anonymous members of the academy explained what they voted for and why. And boy. It is stupid. Here's an entry from 2017 for Best Animated Feature:
He's just voting for his fetishes! WTF. Anyway, this isn't quite the same thing (thankfully), but it's still not surprising and just as sad. I hope he gets more attention at FGC-specific events.
Same person:
He's just voting for his fetishes! WTF. Anyway, this isn't quite the same thing (thankfully), but it's still not surprising and just as sad. I hope he gets more attention at FGC-specific events.
he's not the first to do it, but he might be the first to win two EVOs in two different countries
gamerbee made a huge wave when he upset justin wong in SF4, as an example, and then there was the other tekken example earlier in the thread
Yeah, I didnt know about the korean tekken guy, fair point.
In the other hand, did gamerbee really change the meta with his victory? even after that win, SF was (and is still) dominated by Japan, maybe the closest was MenaRD winning Capcom Cup
the difference between Gamerbee and Arslan was that Gamerbee didn't opened the floodgates for the Taiwan/Chinese scene to dominate, which what happened with Arslan Ash
It's a fucking TRAVESTY.
Arslan belongs in the voting, PERIOD. SMH at him not being included.
I hope he wins again next year and really put everyone on notice.
Arslan belongs in the voting, PERIOD. SMH at him not being included.
I hope he wins again next year and really put everyone on notice.
GB absolutely changed the character meta at least, same with infiltration, since people thought Adon was wack at the time. then all of a sudden here comes this relatively unknown player using a low-tier against EG Rufus and he eliminates wong
That's why I like to compare Arslan Ash to Seok Dong-min. I think that Dong-min winning the TTT world tourney was the beginning of Korean dominance of competitive Tekken until recently.
You can't say its because its "FGC" hes not nominated. When both Tokido and SonicFox got nominated last year. Soooo yea whats the next excuse ?
This dude goes to Evo Japan after an extremely hard to get visa and then went on a crazy ass hundred hour flight or something. Literally went straight to the Venue without any sleep , and against all odds actually fkin won the tournament.
Then proceeded to do the same for Evo. From a region that people didn't even know played Tekken , let alone be one of the strongest scenes in the world.
Now other Pakistani players are able to travel and win many tourneys.
Idk if Arslan winning and getting the spotlight made it easier for other players to get their Visa. But if it did. Has any other person in eSport ever had such an impact on an entire country ?
This dude goes to Evo Japan after an extremely hard to get visa and then went on a crazy ass hundred hour flight or something. Literally went straight to the Venue without any sleep , and against all odds actually fkin won the tournament.
Then proceeded to do the same for Evo. From a region that people didn't even know played Tekken , let alone be one of the strongest scenes in the world.
Now other Pakistani players are able to travel and win many tourneys.
Idk if Arslan winning and getting the spotlight made it easier for other players to get their Visa. But if it did. Has any other person in eSport ever had such an impact on an entire country ?
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Not to be controversial, but there's another Pakistani player:
Oh thanks for sharing this, I had no idea since I dont really follow the fighting scene at all but that's amazing by Arslan Ash.
And the TGA nominations just went from pretty bad up to the next level bad.
And the TGA nominations just went from pretty bad up to the next level bad.
I just assume it's a case of them not being able to afford to fly someone over from Pakistan or get visas or something.
Oh yea thats true , Didn't he actually win a TGA ? I am not sure. But I feel like its a slightly different scenario since he actually moved to the US.
I am pretty sure his sponsors would have taken care of that given the Marketing they get from such exposure.
You can be nominated for something and not be able to attend it.
The awards completely ignores the FGC outside of EVO for best event. Arslan easily deserves it too.
honestly it probably has to do with him being in Tekken 7 which is already a smaller fighting games compared to SFV or Smash which as a whole fighting games are a small portion of esports which is dominated by mobas and shooters.
regardless should still be a nominee tbh
regardless should still be a nominee tbh
Dude is an absolute boss, God damn. Bravo. His story is like that of an anime or an inspirational movie.
I don't follow fighting games at all, so this whole thread has been really interesting. What an amazing story. Thanks, OP.
Thinking it's more because it's Tekken and not the player. As big as Tekken is -- it's probably doesn't hit the news enough for people to really notice.
Oooh I wanna see this, does the crew mainly play XIV or do they also play some of the older titles like XIII, 98', 2002?
In addition to Power Rangers, Fantasy Strike came out of early access this year and Million Arthur was localised, though I'm not sure if these two would be eligible since they aren't technically new releases. Even if there weren't though, they should've just had one less game on there, unless they mandate a specific number of them for some reason?
I was gonna post something along these lines lol. Fighting games and their competitors in general typically get snubbed so it's not really a surprise that this guy wasn't nominated even though I think he should have been. SonicFox is a very well rounded competitor in several different fighters and has an extravagant personality. I think that's what got SF the win last time.
yeh shit is a joke. Arslan Ash is one of the best feelgood stories of the year. and I don't even give a shit about fighting games. Octopath Traveler wasn't even nominated last year for best OST or whatever. trash awards show stays trash, year over year
SFV AE, KI S2 and KI S3 were nominated in the past. Hell, Rising Thunder in its beta stage was nominated.
Like you understand that these awards are literally just popularity contents with zero actual integrity right? It's a wonder that SonicFox even won last year. You think they'll acknowledge Arslan Ash over their sponsored partners and asshole Twitch streamers getting the nominations? Lol. Don't worry about it though, no one cares about these awards honestly at least from my view. No one in my game group cared about these awards and they're into various esports, Evo, TI, Worlds, OWL, etc.
Even as a big smash fan and smash having its own super dominating top player (MKLeo), I wouldve still voted for Arslan Ash. Dude is legendary.
Let's put it this way:
FYI... this is the best Korean Tekken player.
You sort of can. Tokido is an old, old hat when it comes to fighting games. He's really only one step below Daigo in terms of notoriety. SonicFox is equally extremely well-known even outside the FGC as a multi-game champion.
To even understand the significance of Arslan's feat, you really have to be heavily embedded not just in the FGC but in Tekken as well.
I'm not really that familiar with LoL but it seems a little silly that two LoL players are nominated. Come to think of it, N0tail of DotA fame probably deserves a shout-out at this point as the most decorated DotA player with multiple international wins and (if I'm not mistaken) the most winnings of any esports player ever.
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Amazing story. But I can't really think of a game awards ceremony that isn't just an opportunity for promotion, not genuine recognition of achievement in the industry.
Totally forgot THE KING.
Won DAC in China early 2015 and proceeds to win TI5 later in 2015.