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The industry could benefit from more games getting the Persona 5 R treatment
- Thread starter dharmapolice
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Nah, this is a lame approach outside of when the new release is able to be purchased for a steep discount by owners of the initial release. Atlus will 100% not be doing that and instead hoping to force fans of the series to pay full price for a small amount of content when compared to the overall package.
I didn't follow the announcement super closely.
Can you upgrade the base game to the R version by paying 20 bucks or something?
Because if not, fuck this.
Can you upgrade the base game to the R version by paying 20 bucks or something?
Because if not, fuck this.
Yeah I can see what you mean if we are talking about 90 hour games.
Disagree. I would argue that making your existing fans pay full price again to receive improvements to a game they already paid for is absurd, and extremely outdated in this digital age. Keep improving and adding to the game people bought already instead. It's not 1995 anymore.
This, there's a reason why Capcom did away with this update method.
Thats very true, but the problem here is coming back after 2 years, charging full price again, and then calling it the 'real' game for what is essentially an addon.
I disagree. I don't mind updated versions, but they should make it possible for owners of the original game to update it through Add-on DLC or get a reduced price on the re-release (only really possible with a digital purchase of both of course).
I find the idea of a developer comprehensively refreshing their game to be pretty exciting. Less so when a company repeatedly bonks you over the head with them like Street Fighter 2/3, but if a developer basically takes everything they learned after launching a game and adds to and/or refines it to the best of their ability in a package that feels fresh, I'm all for it.
People have been bitching about Pokémon doing it, complaining that it wasn't DLC when Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon changed a lot.
I mean. I did ask that exact question regarding Let's Go, and I guess my answer is "People that want more Pokemon and don't really care what it is" because it sure somehow managed to sell 10 million.
I'm not saying they don't sell. I just don't really understand why they do. I would have been cool with Let's Go but I was done with Kanto's base story in the 90's.
While I'm open to it, you've got to be very careful to avoid the perception of it being the "You bought the wrong version!" version. I remember getting quite grumpy about TLOU Remastered for that reason (and that didn't even have significant additional content!)
Like Square Enix has done for generations. Nothing new or Atlus-exclusive about this method, seems very popular amongst JP-devs and publishers. Also makes me hesitant to buy JRPG's at launch because they most likely will have an "Ultimate"-version in a few months or a year and there is plenty to pick from from the backlog anyways.
Yeah, i never had a problem picking up Super or Ultimate editions of fighting games. Outright prefer it to the current Season Pass model where everything is sold piece meal at a premium.
but a 100+ hour jrpg, no thank you. If it were DLC however i'd probably pick it up but the nature of this update requires a fresh start & thats just not something im willing to do.
Games need a director's cut making them tighter and cutting out the fluff, not the opposite, if anything. Persona 5 being arguably the biggest contender.
This both isn't new (Japan's been doing it FOREVER) and it's not even new for Persona (Fes, Portable, Golden)?
Actually adding this stuff as later DLC + a combined rerelease is seen as the more progressive and consumer friendly model. Look at Monster Hunter's shift from G versions to Iceborne.
Actually adding this stuff as later DLC + a combined rerelease is seen as the more progressive and consumer friendly model. Look at Monster Hunter's shift from G versions to Iceborne.
I still can't believe how many people replay rpgs in these forums. Sometimes even multiple of 5 or 10 times.
I won't replay games like that 97% of the time, no matter how much I loved it before! I replayed Chrono Trigger on DS and that's probably it - and it wasn't the same.
Radiant Historia is one of my all time DS games, but god deliver me from playing the 3DS remaster.
I won't replay games like that 97% of the time, no matter how much I loved it before! I replayed Chrono Trigger on DS and that's probably it - and it wasn't the same.
Radiant Historia is one of my all time DS games, but god deliver me from playing the 3DS remaster.
I think if you truly love a game then the idea of playing through the journey again but with different parameters and some extra content is really exciting. It's what the rom hacking community is based on for example, shuffling up beloved games that play the same but different so it's fresh but also familiar and enjoyable.
It's maybe for those that liked rather than loved Persona 5 or Pokemon R/B where replaying or the cost involved becomes more of an issue.
They could also very easily sell this as a $20 -$30 dlc that turns the game into the Royale edition.
Oh don't worry about the audience, people reread all chapters of One Piece, replay The Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate 2, rewatch Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and replay Persona 4/The Golden (I might do one myself).
But yeah Persona 5? That game needs to be streamlined or else 0.5% people will reach the credits.
Nope. Why people need to pay again full price for a game they already bought, and most likely, finished? I can accept Persona 4 Golden or Portable since they were developed for a different system, but not this. Especially since we have DLCs, and Atlus decided to use them to sell costumes and music instead of adding new features to the game.
I'd rather it just be an expansion for the people who bought the first game. I don't exactly like the idea of having to rebuy a game I already own.
I'm absolutely willing to fork over more money for an improved version of a game, but unless it's not technically feasible it seems like it's a bit of a cash grab.
I'm absolutely willing to fork over more money for an improved version of a game, but unless it's not technically feasible it seems like it's a bit of a cash grab.
I just want to say I'm glad Capcom and Monster Hunter series already moved on from this model. Was really worried that you need to pay full price for Monster Hunter World Ultimate just to access Iceborne.
Also P5 Royal not being Expansion/DLC (though not sure how feasoble this is) means an easy skip for me.
Also P5 Royal not being Expansion/DLC (though not sure how feasoble this is) means an easy skip for me.
You mean, selling a do-over three years later?
You'd probably get a lot of people holding off buying the original game if they knew a standalone improvement was inevitable though. You already see this today in the form of, "Nah, I'll wait for the third version of this Pokemon entry", or "Nah, I'll wait for Super Street Fighter #". Or even just, "Nah, I'll wait for the GOTY Edition."
You'd probably get a lot of people holding off buying the original game if they knew a standalone improvement was inevitable though. You already see this today in the form of, "Nah, I'll wait for the third version of this Pokemon entry", or "Nah, I'll wait for Super Street Fighter #". Or even just, "Nah, I'll wait for the GOTY Edition."
I rather them add to it as DLC with an option to access through new game plus. I wouldn't drop $60 again.
