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Splatoon [Wii U] and Splatoon 2 [SW] both do the 2 maps per rotation (excluding Splat Fests). The big difference in the sequel is that maps change every 2 hours while in Splatoon it was every 4 hours.
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The Importance of Playing Splatoon on Wii U
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Splatoon 2's base singleplayer is just more splatoon 1's single player, I understand it didnt blow the house down and upped the ante but saying "absolutely not" when he said he enjoyed the 1st one??? Theres got to be some perspective here
The Wii U not having a Halo-style killer app aside, Super Mario Maker generated a lot more buzz than Splatoon, at least outside of Japan.
Also, I played the demo on Wii U - it didn't click for me. Painting the ground got old quickly.
Splatoon 2's Salmon Run does look fun, though.
The Wii U before Splatoon was a massive bomb of a console. The Wii U after Splatoon was...a massive bomb of a console. It's like, the sixth best selling game on the console, whereas Halo 1 is the third best selling and beaten only by Splinter Cell (?!) and Halo 2.
And sorry nobody's gonna buy a whole new console for one dying game that's got a by and large better sequel because the maps are slightly better.
The one thing I miss from Splat 1 is the music, at this point I prefer everything in 2, warts and all. The maps in Splat 2 are safer but stronger overall with no absolute garbage maps like Saltspray and Hammerhead (I think you're the first person I've ever seen compliment Saltspray!) and I can't agree about the specials at all, which are way too strong and less nuanced in Splat 1 (except for Echolocator which is still sorely missing from 2's meta).
I think there is truth that Splatoon as a franchise is important to Nintendo, and I think part of an identity for it's players. While I did enjoy my thousand of hours playing Splatoon, and so far near thousand of Splatoon 2, I am not sure if the context of the first is needed. Everyone should just play Splatoon 2 with it's overall improvements.
Splatoon 2 story mode was pretty weak because the freshness wore off. It was pretty fun in the U game because it was all new, it was a soulless 'cash grab' kind of campaign until the DLC anyways. The rest of the game was ace though. As someone who also enjoyed Splatoon 1 campaign I felt a lot of difficulty in getting through the sequels. I suppose if it's your first experience it would be fine.
I still pop in Splatoon from time to time, and I'd say I probably play it more than my Switch copy of Splatoon 2.
Thankfully cheaters haven't been too rampant yet.
Thankfully cheaters haven't been too rampant yet.
Xbox halo sales 5.5 million
Splatoon wii u 4.94 million
Same ballpark, once you get past the first few million most people focus on numbers like this
while not being neck and neck to say the sales are the same, if you look at the number of hardware units sold and the impact the game had for the system I think the point is valid
Although Halo 1s campaign was worthwhile compared to the barebones Splatoon 1 player mode
Only thing better about Splatoon 1 is the plaza. Besides playing with a pro controller is much better than using that cumbersome gamepad lol
I read that sentence as they tried the game and liked what they tried - not, they played the single player campaign and were satisfied. So we're just reading it differently. Also, I liked the first campaign more so if they did play it all I wouldn't tell somebody that 2 is worth it just for the campaign.
Back on topic, another thing missing from 2 is the Miiverse integration. Seeing the levels change whenever news hit was always cool. Playing the weekend Iwata died was a truly bittersweet moment. Everybody having fun surrounded by tributes of Iwata all over the maps. I know people can still make posts, but it doesn't feel at all the same.
I played Splatoon 1 for 2 years..it was sooo fucking good
I loved the bubbler and miss it soon much :(
Got Splatoon 2 last year and it ...just isn't the same without it. Something just feeels soooo off about 2 compared to 1 where it was just so highly addicting. I stopped playing 2 after 3 months ._.
And recently my Wii U gamepad died so yeah rip Splatoon 1 T_T
I loved the bubbler and miss it soon much :(
Got Splatoon 2 last year and it ...just isn't the same without it. Something just feeels soooo off about 2 compared to 1 where it was just so highly addicting. I stopped playing 2 after 3 months ._.
And recently my Wii U gamepad died so yeah rip Splatoon 1 T_T
Comparing Splatoon to Halo is actually quite apt as long as you're talking about Japan. Splatoon 2 was the 4th best-selling game of 2018 in Japan, only outsold by Smash Bros., PokƩmon Let's Go, and Monster Hunter World and Splatoon 2 isn't even a 2018 game! In a genre that generally hasn't sold very well in Japan, Splatoon and its sequel came in and took over completely.
I would reccomend you reading this up https://oatmealdome.me/blog/splatoon-2s-netcode-an-in-depth-look
Also there is an entire twitter Account posting laggy opponents, broken lobbies and whatnot. Besides the fact that you still
can't team up in a lobby with friends or play in pre-made teams Turf War outside of league.
And that someone on WiFi wouldn't notice the lag, lag that you clearly have compared to someone on ethernet, I'm not surprised by that anymore.
I tried Ethernet for 1 week, didn't notice a different. Same thing with smash ultimate online most of the time it runs beautifully, sometimes there is lag.
I couldn't read much further after seeing you equate a niche game as indicative of what Halo did to xbox- Halo was more than just a gaming phenomenon, it was a cultural phenomenon. Not even close to being in the same realm of reality. Splatoon may have been a hit in Japan, but it certainly wasn't that influential anywhere else.
Like on twitch the MCC has double the viewers as splatoon 2 does, and Halo's popularity has waned significantly since its height.
Except Halo's popularity was far larger than just a single country, including sales' wise. Its really strange seeing people say this is equivalent to what Halo did to the xbox but only if you look at it in this one market and ignore the monumental success Halo had virtually everywhere. Like it we wanted to qualify any condition to meet a statement like that we could say something as equally as wrong about virtually any semi popular game.
Like on twitch the MCC has double the viewers as splatoon 2 does, and Halo's popularity has waned significantly since its height.
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Splatoon is such a fantastic IP. A cornerstone title for the new wave Nintendo renaissance. Can't wait to see where they go with the next installment.
Even Splatoon 1 sold more in US than in Japan. Splatoon 2, even moreso.
How did its sales do relative to everything else? WHich is what that poster mentioned-it selling the 4th best out of every game in Japan. Lets look at where it stood in other markets besides just Japan. Because halo didn't need to be mitigated to a single country to present its dominance in the sales department.
It sold 5 millions worldwide of which less than third (1.602.993) was sold in Japan. Imagining the rest is split evenly between Europe and US -- you will get to conclusion that:
Halo is literally defined by how it's sales are mostly in one region.
Again youre ignoring the context of the post which I was responding to. How did splatoon do, sales wise, relative to other games in other regions? The post in question specifically brought up how it sold in Japan vs all other games. It very well might have sold more in the US than in Japan, where did it place in overall sales compared to other games in the US?
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Here they are
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/01/19/the-best-selling-video-games-of-2017/#23a36dd36226
Not even top 10.
And even then you still wouldn't be on par with Halo's numbers. Theres no reality in which splatoon as a franchise is competing with Halo in sales, even more so when you factor in how influential Halo was compared to splatoon (or how Halo basically made an entire console a competitor today whereas splatoon did nothing to mitigate the dying numbers of the wii u). We can be happy splatoon is successful without making bold face lies about its success relative to one of the biggest and most influential games ever made.
In S2 basically every weapon can ink the shit out of everything, and consequently can move around the map and retreat through enemy ink much more freely, especially for medium and long range weapons. In S1, you had to be much more tactical about how you inked territory, and there was a much more interesting and strategic long arc to most matches at high levels. S2 feels like quake 3 in comparison.
Splatoon 1 is much more fun due to a more enjoyable map philosophy and the specials being bananas by comparison.
I only play Splatoon 2 for splatfests.
I only play Splatoon 2 for splatfests.
I loved this game when it received all the updates but i found it nearly impossible to go back to after playing Splatoon 2. It's one of those sequels that makes the original obsolete. Some of the weapons/specials/ stages that remain exclusive to Splatoon are best left behind.
I regard Splatoon much like I do Pikmin, you had to be there in order understand it's importance. On consoles that had very little going for them (GC and Wii U), and then came these truly innovative and fun games. Some new fans will be made, but people won't understand the core essence. So much time was put in playing because there was little else to play if you only owned those console.
The one thing I miss the most from Splatoon 1 are the specials. Splatoon 2 just isn't very fun without them. They're too restrained now. I want to feel overpowered every once in a while. Killer Wail will forever be my favorite, and I am so happy it's Inkling's Final Smash in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Let's take a look at Splatoon 2 sales vs Halo 2 sales.
Halo 2 - 8+ million worldwide (6.3+ million in the US)
Splatoon 2 - 8.27 million worldwide (2.8+ million in Japan)
So Splatoon 2 has sold about as well as Halo 2 did, except whereas Halo 2 sales were almost entirely in the US (and to a much lesser extent, the UK), Splatoon 2 dominates in Japan, but about 2/3rds of all sales are outside Japan. Splatoon 2 regularly shows up in the Top 20 for both Japan & the US, so by the time Splatoon 3 comes out, chances are Splatoon 2 will far eclipse how well Halo 2 did (and Halo 2 was the best-selling original Xbox game of all-time).
As far as the NPD thing goes, Splatoon 2 was in the Top 20 Best-Selling Video Games of December 2018 despite being a 1.5 year old game which is even more impressive when you consider that A) most of the titles on that list are the combined sales totals of multiple platforms not a single-platform like Splatoon 2 and B) they don't include digital sales of Switch games in their ranking but they do include digital sales on other platforms.
So yes, comparing Splatoon to Halo seems apt - they're both revolutionary multiplayer shooter series, they both sell exceptionally well, and they both dominate in 1 country. Splatoon 2 is also currently the best-selling Switch game of all-time in Japan (easily outselling BotW, Mario Odyssey, and Mario Kart, although Smash Bros. is close and will probably overtake it over time) with nearly 40% of all Japanese Switch owners owning the game so it doesn't seem a stretch to say that Splatoon 2 has been a big system seller worldwide, but especially in Japan.
EDIT: Halo 1 & Splatoon 1 both sold about 5 million copies each (4.9 million for Splatoon 1, 5.5 million for Halo 1) so there's another similarity.
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I have no desire to revisit the MP but I wish they ported the campaign to the Switch. It's Octo-Expansion > Splatoon 1 > Splatoon 2 in terms of SP.
At launch, not really it was pretty barebones. However the Octo Expansion really fleshed out the SP content to the point where I would say it's worth it
I think the importance is to preserve the ability to play the online multiplayer modes - is it possible to do this locally, even if it requires 8 consoles?
Personally, I find going back to the original both easier and more difficult. With the roller, which is all I use, the improvements are sublime, but I do find that I have more little tricks I've learned for the maps than I currently have on Splatoon 2.
The online certainly is still alive, but once that goes it will be a damn shame to have lost a game to go back to, and one that I consider console-defining (alongside Super Mario Maker).
I guess they didn't add all the original maps to the sequel as they'll possibly intend on doing "retro" maps a la Mario Kart.
Personally, I find going back to the original both easier and more difficult. With the roller, which is all I use, the improvements are sublime, but I do find that I have more little tricks I've learned for the maps than I currently have on Splatoon 2.
The online certainly is still alive, but once that goes it will be a damn shame to have lost a game to go back to, and one that I consider console-defining (alongside Super Mario Maker).
I guess they didn't add all the original maps to the sequel as they'll possibly intend on doing "retro" maps a la Mario Kart.
It's the only TPS that has ever captured me. I only tried Splatoon for a few hours but Splatoon 2 is my favourite game on the Switch. Put 500 hours into it, right now burned out but in a month I'm back just like last time. It's just a fun game and I wish more older players would give it a chance.
I wish Splatoon 2 had some tunes from one and Mahi-Mahi+Flouder heights as returning maps tho. Can't really comment about the map, since I'm more use to the Switch version. Nintendo has really done it with this game. This and Mario Maker imo are one of the best new IP from last gen.
I wish Splatoon 2 had some tunes from one and Mahi-Mahi+Flouder heights as returning maps tho. Can't really comment about the map, since I'm more use to the Switch version. Nintendo has really done it with this game. This and Mario Maker imo are one of the best new IP from last gen.
I tried to get into Splatoon 1 on WiiU
.. but those shitty gamepad only controls made me quit after a while. Just an awful way to control by tilting that fisher price toy all over the place
Splatoon 2 however - I love it. It controls wonderfully with split joycons, it is just so precise and feels really good
.. but those shitty gamepad only controls made me quit after a while. Just an awful way to control by tilting that fisher price toy all over the place
Splatoon 2 however - I love it. It controls wonderfully with split joycons, it is just so precise and feels really good
My main problem was really the shitty gamepad - split controllers are just so much better (and S1 did not allow wiimote+nunchuck)
Split controllers are nice but, in this particular game, I think the GamePad is a much controller
Not gonna lie I like the first game better. Subjectively I prefer the weapons and maps. Also think it had a better single player and that the gamepad was really crucial as you say. The constantly available map just contributed so well to overall stage awareness and had me jumping around with much more aim and big picture focus.
The bullet speed and responsiveness of shots when they hit someone is sooo much better in Splat 1. It just feels like all of the guns are faster or more accurate.
The gamepad's gyro feels a lot more responsive and precise than the ProCon's.
I love it.
The Splat 1 specials are really dumb, though, but I'll still boot it up from time to time.
The gamepad's gyro feels a lot more responsive and precise than the ProCon's.
I love it.
The Splat 1 specials are really dumb, though, but I'll still boot it up from time to time.
S**tty netcode, only 24hz and be forced to play with japaneses and their insane lag ruined the online for me. At one point I only played during Splatfests, which where region locked, the only way to have enjoyable matches.
Edit: oh yeah, i forgot the insane lack of map rotation and being forced to play with only two map with 50% chance of playing the same map over and over, such bull**it.
Edit: oh yeah, i forgot the insane lack of map rotation and being forced to play with only two map with 50% chance of playing the same map over and over, such bull**it.
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Fake news, and internet trolling.there are countless threads on the internet over the years full of fake rage and fanboy bullshit. i still remember the thread about how twilight princess HD looked worst than the original on the Wii.
Do you even own the game?
Having played the original on the WiiU again after 2, this is really noticeable. It's feels so off when going back to 2 again then.