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The Gundam |OT| Destiny is something we all have to deal with
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Finishing my rewatch of 79 and it's really a shame that Sayla got sidelined hard afterwards given that she was so important to this storyline. I've read that apparently her actress was too busy with Urusei Yatsura during Zeta/ZZ to appear outside of cameos.
Also Char's clean headshot of Kycilia through the hull of her ship remains my favorite moment of the entire 79 saga.
Also Char's clean headshot of Kycilia through the hull of her ship remains my favorite moment of the entire 79 saga.
They didn't want to sideline her. The voice actress was sick and passed away before they could do more with her, I believe.
Well she passed away in 2001, so that's more understandable, but I mean before that when they were still making UC stuff in the 80s.
That said they did recast Bright so I would hope that doesn't mean Sayla is forever unable to be used.
Yo Inoue was in Patlabor in the 90s. I guess I never learned more of the reasoning beyond vague things like "was on vacation or safari at the time."
In any case, they have Sayla in Origin up to a scant few hours before the events of MSG, and of course she'll be in the Doan's Island thing. I have no idea if any manga attempt to say what she was doing later on.
I get kinda miffed when other Gundams that are clearly way more powerful than the original also show up in the OYW.
The EZ's are fine, they are basically GMs with spare parts added on. The Alex is okay because its basically just a new type enhanced Gundam showing up at the ass end of the conflict.
All the other ones though...
The EZ's are fine, they are basically GMs with spare parts added on. The Alex is okay because its basically just a new type enhanced Gundam showing up at the ass end of the conflict.
All the other ones though...
Depends, is it a copy or is it a different evolution? Because the Gundam is one of multiple prototypes approved, it's the only one that got super mobile and publicized. Others would've been more specialized and covertly deployed. 78 was sacrificed as a decoy
A manga called Gundam Walpurgis. BJ needs to get on translating it again.
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I understand the reasoning for it, but yeah I just dont like how over the top some of the OVA gets in terms of power. Gundam 0080 has it make sense, and the final battle is with a normal Zaku II, while in other OVAs like Gundam 0083, you got shit where you basically have to conclude that technology just disappears.
The strength of UC Gundam is that the main character is constantly in danger of being destroyed by anyone. A normal guy can just get lucky and blow up the Gundam. If you have it so that the Gundam is so advance that the only person who can destroy it is another ace pilot in a super advanced robot than your basically just making serious Gundam Wing and that type of robot fights should never be taking completely seriously.
Don't quote me on this but I believe I saw it mentioned that she traveled overseas a lot back then, so she was always unavailable.
A quick google say it's from UC.
From the Gundam Wiki
What other Gundams are you referring to? I'm still catching up with all the side story mangas.
Mudrock from Zeonic Front is always OP in the games.
Like why didn't someone have the idea of smooshing the Gundam and guncannon together sooner.
Oh yeah, lots of the RX-78 variants are rather OP, starting from the RX-78-04 all the way to 07 and its FA version.
In SD Genesis, the 06 and 07 are rather easy to build in early game and it's enough to clean up all the OYW grunts with ease, even Char's mechs.
In SD Genesis, the 06 and 07 are rather easy to build in early game and it's enough to clean up all the OYW grunts with ease, even Char's mechs.
Is Judau secretly the best UC protagonist? He is more well written and relatable than Amuro, Kamille, and Char. Debate me!
Edit: I'm only ~17 episodes into ZZ Gundam.
Edit: I'm only ~17 episodes into ZZ Gundam.
I really need to get back into that game for a bit, I've done maybe 2 missions. Wanna try and grind out a quick couple monsters like gun cannon snipers I think?
Kamille is my favorite Gundam protag by a mile. I like Judau but he is a little flatter I think. I like my mech pilots angsty.
Uso. Uso is my favourite pilot out of them all (although Kamille is a close second).
My favourite pilot overall though is probably Garrod though from X.
Guncannon sniper sounds OP too. I never unlock it since I always focused on the Gundams.
Judau is certainly the most accomplished and longest lasting. Judau and the ZZ are active all the way through the Zanscare war, appearing in Crossbone and V Gundam Gaiden.
Had this beer while I was in Portugal. Super Machines Imperial IPA by Dois Corvos. Yep. That's a Unicorn.
Got up at ep 38 of ZZ. Mashymre's reappearance is such a stark contrast to his original portrayal. I know the tone of this show has shifted but it's like a totally different character.
They were still uncommon units, the OYW was massive and the Federation was playing catch up on war materials production, hence their main focus on cheaper grunt units. They were still uses mass amounts of balls in combat to the very end. The other Gundams were mainly the other prototypes from the initial series and were typically made to be specialized units. Murdrock was not more powerful than the original RX-78-2 per say, it was just more specialized for ground combat. Other variants got unique gear and such too but none I believe also got the magnetic coated joint upgrade that the RX-78-2 got as well as full space operations verniers upgrades for dual role combat.
Lot of the other Gundams came into the OYW late also so they got later updates and upgrades compared to the early model.
The pilot also is what truly made the original Gundam unique, as we see many of the other Gundam prototypes didn't do a whole lot, Mudrock technically was taken out by a squad of zeon grunt suits for example.
Finally finished my watch of (almost) all U.C., most of which for the first time.
MSG movies 1-3, 0080, 0083, Z, ZZ, CCA, Hathaway
I've also already seen 08th MS Team, Thunderbolt, Unicorn, and F91.
It's a shame I didn't enjoy MSG, Z, ZZ, or CCA, because I really like basically everything else surrounding those core U.C. series. There are interesting ideas and some good episodes here and there, but overall it was not for me.
I can't agree with folks who recommend to start with first Gundam. If I had done that rather than start with Iron Blooded Orphans like I did, I don't know if I'd be watching Gundam at all.
Now that I feel like I'm free, I'll get back to watching more non-U.C. stuff, starting with Gundam X.
MSG movies 1-3, 0080, 0083, Z, ZZ, CCA, Hathaway
I've also already seen 08th MS Team, Thunderbolt, Unicorn, and F91.
It's a shame I didn't enjoy MSG, Z, ZZ, or CCA, because I really like basically everything else surrounding those core U.C. series. There are interesting ideas and some good episodes here and there, but overall it was not for me.
I can't agree with folks who recommend to start with first Gundam. If I had done that rather than start with Iron Blooded Orphans like I did, I don't know if I'd be watching Gundam at all.
Now that I feel like I'm free, I'll get back to watching more non-U.C. stuff, starting with Gundam X.
Personally I would recommend IBO or 00, but when someone asks where to start with the UC what else can you tell them really??? You might find The Origin Manga more to your liking. Better pacing, cuts out some filler, ads some great prequel material. The anime only adapts the prequel stuff.
That's a good point. If they specifically want to start with UC, I don't know what else I'd say. Maybe 0080? 08th MS Team? Probably just first Gundam.
I'll have to check out The Origin manga some time.
0080 is solid on it's own but sometimes folks, at least friends of mine who ask -- can only speak from personal experience here, want that "thrown into the fandom deep end" stuff.
If you end up doing so I'd love to hear what you think! They're colorizing the pages and posting them here slowly (story is only partially posted so far but close to the end) if you have an interest in checking it out before buying or seeing if you wanna wait for whenever these color pages hit the shelves. Probably best since you were mild on the show.
MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM THE ORIGIN
Amuro Rei is the son of an engineering officer of the Federation Army. When the man-made colony "Side 7" is attacked by the Zeon Army, he fights back with the Gundam that his father developed. He then boards the WB with other refugees, but continues to be dragged back into the war.
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Finally finished ZZ. I really liked both the campy and serious approach of the show. Happy about the last beach scene too, gives solid closure on a character I didn't think we were gonna get.
Now to move on to the next show. Maybe I'll watch 08th MS -> War in the Pocket -> 0083 -> F91. Then catch up on Thunderbolt, Unicorn, and Origin. Once I finished all those I'll pick up Victory.
But why did Judua suddenly go to Jupiter? What is in Jupiter I don't think it was mentioned at all?
Now to move on to the next show. Maybe I'll watch 08th MS -> War in the Pocket -> 0083 -> F91. Then catch up on Thunderbolt, Unicorn, and Origin. Once I finished all those I'll pick up Victory.
It's some sort of far-off colony from what I gather. Scirocco in Zeta came from Jupiter. Crossbone has action around Jupiter.
Some people just have different tastes. They liked the most recent episodic Gundam so I'd say the franchise is right.
I suggest doing Unicorn (the OVA > series) next. Have you already seen Char's Countterattack? Probably CCA > Unicorn > Hathaway. Feel free to never watch Narrative.
As far as 08th MS Team, Thunderbolt, & Origin are concerned, I would circle back on those later as they all feel so disconnected from the primary events of UC. 08th doesn't necessarily retcon anything from 0079/Z/ZZ, but it feels tonally different in such a way that I don't think it makes sense to watch it in-line with the other series. Thunderbolt and especially Origin feel like retcons of certain UC aspects in a way that's still enjoyable, but can create some dissonance when you're watching the original series.
Perfect I'll watch Unicorn next! I did watch CCA during my ZZ watch because I really wanted to watch Hathaway and heard ZZ didn't have much impact on the story.
Should I watch Victory then before the others?
I liked some of the ideas and certain episodes of 0079, Z, ZZ, CCA. But yeah most of the UC stuff I like is outside of that core.
But I really enjoyed IBO and 00, and I'm interested to watch more AU shows. And I've built over 50 gunpla kits. I like Gundam for sure.
There are some colonies near Jupiter. They mine gasses required for Minovsky fusion and routinely transport them back to Earth.
The finer details really aren't gotten into, but the basics are implied in Zeta, as Scirocco was part of the Jupiter Energy Fleet. Judau deciding to go to Jupiter comes out of left field but basically was "I can't fucking deal with these adults/the Federation, I'm taking my girlfriend and going to Jupiter".
The finer details really aren't gotten into, but the basics are implied in Zeta, as Scirocco was part of the Jupiter Energy Fleet. Judau deciding to go to Jupiter comes out of left field but basically was "I can't fucking deal with these adults/the Federation, I'm taking my girlfriend and going to Jupiter".
Idk Victory is like all the elements of the previous series amplified. It's far and away my favorite entry in the franchise, but if you don't like the classic series it is going to be painful. It's the farthest point in the timeline animated. (Crossbone Dust, X-11 and the G-Saviour entries take place later).
Different poster was the one that the original UC didn't land with.
Wow, I've never heard about Crossbone Dust before, let me check it out and see the suits.
What in the sweet V-fin fuck is that?
What in the sweet V-fin fuck is that?
Ya know! Like an anchor! Cuz nautical stuff!!Wow, I've never heard about Crossbone Dust before, let me check it out and see the suits.
What in the sweet V-fin fuck is that?