Hunh haven't watched the movie versions yet myself, and I do love Meguiri and I am curious what scene it was played in
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It has some good moments and a few characters I liked, but overall I thought it was way overhyped. Classic case of an anime whose reputation lived off 90s/early 00s internet buzz. Like there were more people who heard that Victory was this super dark show than had actually watched it.
Asinine. You may not like it, but to call it open of the worst is ridiculous. You guys are chock full of bad takes today. It has issues due to Tomino's depression and sponsor interference, but the heart is on full display, Zanscare are incredibly interesting and the MS designs are so good. It's fucking beautiful too.
V Gundam is great and has a phenomenal soundtrack.
Same with Ai Senshi in the second movie, as it's moved back to the credits.
I haven't rewatched the 5.1 mix recently, but IIRC Meguriai is still there, it just doesn't kick in at the same time, and it replaces Beginning in the end credits. I might have mixed up both songs but the bottom line is that Meguriai absolutely carries a part of the movie, and in that part, it's replaced with a BGM in the surround mix.
Same with Ai Senshi in the second movie, as it's moved back to the credits.
I missed this, but that is amazing if true!
Huge shame the original audio didn't make it on the BDs here.
I'm still cautious because I live in a territory where All The Anime published the BDs and we had both Japanese tracks on them, so I don't know how it will turn out in NA. Then again, Netflix here only offers the original track so it's not like they're matching the BD release either.
I just checked it out with Gundam III and NA netflix does indeed use the original audio here. The newer 5.1 is not here at all, actually (nor the dub, unfortunately for me :P)
I generally think it was an unintended error when Nozomi/Rightstuf omitted it from the BD release, not licensing or anything like that. Was the only mistake they made I think until the Seed thing happened. At the time it was coming out on BDs in Europe too and it had the stereo audio.
Now I definitely want to see the context of Meguriai, which of the movies is it in?
In the third one, in what might be my favorite scene in Gundamdom.
They were likely not aware that the Special Edition with 5.1 redub and Original Version with original mono use different Blu-ray masters. The main differences of the Special Edition master are that the Eirin film classification logos are missing and that the end credits were changed (most notable change is during the Movie II credits where 'Ramba' and 'Ma' were corrected to 'Ramba Ral' and 'M'Quve')
The UK/FR Blu-ray uses the Original Version master with Special Edition master audio synced to it.
The Nozomi BD (and Anime Limited UK BD) of 0083 is also missing the original audio.
Victory was honestly the hardest Gundam show for me to get through. I didn't think it was bad, per say, I just felt like it slogged on and on.
IIRC it picked up a little before or around the time V2 showed up. And those last few episodes, wew what a wild-ass ride.
IIRC it picked up a little before or around the time V2 showed up. And those last few episodes, wew what a wild-ass ride.
I did not realize this. Are they very different? I have the VHS tapes here at least I could compare them to.
It's a complete redub in 5.1ch with very different sound effects too (The 2.0ch track on Nozomi BD is a downmix of the redub).
Comparison (Original 2.0ch first, 2006 5.1ch redub second)
Watched the first film in the original trilogy tonight. I'd only seen these once before sometime around 2009. It continues to hold up well.
All right. I've got a few questions for Gundam gurus. :P
Minovsky particles. Someone remind me what these do? There was a point early on in the film in which the Federation dispersed a bunch of them and the Zeon folks had to be cognizant of that. Does it mess with ship systems or something? I recall Minvosky particles being super important in later shows, so this is just me drawing a big, dumb blank.
Is there an ideal time to watch (well, rewatch) 08th MS Team during the trilogy? I think the mobile armor that Zeon was developing is intended for use against Jaburo or something if I remember correctly? Would it sync up somewhat well to watch this before the second film? Or the third? Or is it just a completely and utter wash?
Same question with Thunderbolt. But also, is the Thunderbolt manga finished? I tried looking that up online last night to dizzying results. Just wondering if/when we'll see a continuation.
So the present implication from the first film is that Char is working for Kycilia, right? And that Kycilia wanted Garma dead? I know Char's real motives -- that much I remember thanks to having seen The Origin just a couple of years back -- but was I reading into the script here correctly? Are we, at present, supposed to believe he killed Garma for her and not for himself? There's something about the movie's writing that left me a tiny bit confused.
As an aside, I mentioned upthread that the movies don't do nearly as good a job covering the Char/Garma stuff as the show. I'm not sure I stand by that now. There was more on display here than I remembered. The show still goes into greater depth, but the film gets it across rather neatly.
Minovsky particles. Someone remind me what these do? There was a point early on in the film in which the Federation dispersed a bunch of them and the Zeon folks had to be cognizant of that. Does it mess with ship systems or something? I recall Minvosky particles being super important in later shows, so this is just me drawing a big, dumb blank.
Is there an ideal time to watch (well, rewatch) 08th MS Team during the trilogy? I think the mobile armor that Zeon was developing is intended for use against Jaburo or something if I remember correctly? Would it sync up somewhat well to watch this before the second film? Or the third? Or is it just a completely and utter wash?
Same question with Thunderbolt. But also, is the Thunderbolt manga finished? I tried looking that up online last night to dizzying results. Just wondering if/when we'll see a continuation.
So the present implication from the first film is that Char is working for Kycilia, right? And that Kycilia wanted Garma dead? I know Char's real motives -- that much I remember thanks to having seen The Origin just a couple of years back -- but was I reading into the script here correctly? Are we, at present, supposed to believe he killed Garma for her and not for himself? There's something about the movie's writing that left me a tiny bit confused.
As an aside, I mentioned upthread that the movies don't do nearly as good a job covering the Char/Garma stuff as the show. I'm not sure I stand by that now. There was more on display here than I remembered. The show still goes into greater depth, but the film gets it across rather neatly.
Minivsky particles are radar absorbent material, the absorb H/V/U/SEHF range rf nearly totally and are over 90% effective against THF RF.
08th doesn't really line up with the classic series anywhere. Watch it at your leisure
Thunderbolt is ongoing and takes place in a remote area so again at your own leisure. A part 3 is unknown at this time.
Char wanted all Zabis dead, up until Grama's death Char fell under Dozle Fleet, at which time he was punished and Kycillia picked Char up because she had ambitions of usurping her father and Gihren.
The Thunderbolt manga is ongoing.
They have enough material for a season 3 now, but it would end on another cliffhanger that sets up the current arc.
It does feel like they're coming to a conclusion soon with
Daryl piloting a Psycho Zaku Mk 2 disguised as a RX-78-2 Gundam to infiltrate Federation Forces in order to try to hijack the solar ray weapon and blow up Anaheim Electronic's headquarters on the moon while Io pilots a captured Zeong along with a Newtype girl to try to stop the SSA piloted Psycho Zakus in space.
The OVAs are side stories and should be watched after you finish the trilogy. Think about how stuff was chronologically released and go from there, but only if you feel the need to watch everything, because you also don't need to.
V Gundam is legit in my top two. I don't know if that makes me weird, insane, a masochist or all three, but it's one of my favorites. I love it for the unique villain dynamic between Uso and Katejina alone. It's like imagine if Char used to change Amuro's diapers and then through cyber newtype insanity he developed a romantic crush on the guy and then tossed a bikini laden Lalah to distract Amuro for the penultimate battle. It's fucking batshit and I love it.
The first OP for V Gundam is so happy to lol. I'm glad more people are getting into it and being positive about it though. I remember a time where it was one of the most hated shows for some odd reason.
It feels like Zeta is really picking up as of episode 33. It's probably my favorite episode so far, and the animation quality and music seem so much more dynamic than many episodes prior. It also feels nice to see Quattro show some character depth as well.
Were Wong and Bright legitimately surprised when Mineva revealed that Quattro is Char? So many characters have acknowledged it by now that I assumed it was an open secret.
Also tons and tons of robbit kicking.
(I seriously have at least thirty more gifs of Robots kicking each other from Victory.)
Everybody needs to watch the Gundam anime more depressing than Zeta.
I really like when he used the wings of light on the V2 as an anti air attack.
Although he does go too far sometimes and I can't imagine how many perfectly good parts he lost from blowing stuff up/losing parts.
It's cool how Gundam is often self referential. I recognized the homage in Iron-Blooded Orphans when the Barbatos has to entire the atmosphere (a common trope in most Gundam series, it seems), and now I understand that getting Kudelia to her destination at the finale of IBO S1 is an homage to Quattro reaching the General Assembly in Zeta.
Anyone know why the audio for the Compilation movies on Netflix is different? I have the 3 0079 films on Blu-Ray and so much of the music and sound effects are different in the Netflix version...
Because they're the original instead of the 5.1 remasters i believe
Yeah that makes sense, a lot of the music and sounds from the Netflix version are straight from the TV show, while the BD's sounds and music feel more, for lack of a better term, cinematic.
Not sure yet which version I prefer...
A big thing is a number of major themes in the original cut were moved to the end credits in the 5.1 version. Which means their intended impact was removed. Personally I'm hyped to hear Megurai in its original scene context
Uso lost a shitload of parts though. He's lucky they had an infinite supply of them.
Finished the 3 original movies. Jumping from IBO to them the animation took a couple of episodes worth of getting used to, but it still has a real charm. Seeing the marks on the cells as they change, the pencil stroke marks and the weird little car designs among other stuff. But you could also see the evolution of quality as the movies/episodes went on which was neat. The Lalah psychic sequences in particular were really impressive. It's also wild to think a cartoon in the late 70's went so hard into the impact of war, child soldiers etc.
Moving onto Zeta now!
Moving onto Zeta now!
It's an incredibly poignant show for it's age, that's for sure. In that sense, it's timeless. If you liked that, Zeta goes even deeper into those themes and more.
Kamille vs Willy Wonka is the 2nd funniest moment in all of Gundam
4 episodes in and yep. Kamille's face alone should be swollen to twice the size from all the slaps. Good so far though, the various faction stuff is intriguing and even though the Titans still seem mostly like total dicks there's some good grey areas with everything. Also Char with the classic superman disguise of glasses means no one know who I am, despite everyone commenting on my red mobile suit.
Anything I gotta do to prepare for Hathaway this Thursday? I watched the original trilogy again less than a year ago so they're still kinda fresh. Hathaway's Flash doesn't follow CCA's continuity so I guess I can ignore that. I just don't wanna be confused. I watched the trailer and didn't understand much of what was going on.