Awesome! So original series movies, Zeta and ZZ original episodes then CCA and I should be good? Is the Origin adaptation worth watching?
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The Zeta New Translation films have some amazing new animation but it's an overall jarring clunky experience with a big change to the ending that makes it definitely not canon. If you have the time the series is better. The Origin is great but much like ZZ it's not needed.
If any of this stresses you out, you'd really be ok watching MSG Trilogy, then CCA then Hathaway's Flash. The biggest things that Zeta and ZZ do in terms of CCA and HF is introduce Hathaway, tell you what's up with Bright, Anaheim Electronics loves playing both sides, and also that everyone sucks, war is hell and it keeps on keeping on for people in the colonies.
The necessarily rushed nature of things regarding Ramba and Garma really sours me on certain segments of the first and second movies.
Agreed. I think the series is definitely worth watching for stuff like that, but for people who are stressing about "gotta watch it all" the movie trilogy hits all the necessary plot points to get what's needed for future installments.
So is Unicorn canon or not? I wouldn't be upset if Narrative isn't canon, but if Unicorn isn't that feels pretty bad.
Unicorn is.
The only animated UC material that isn't canon are the Zeta films, mainly due to the ending not lining up with ZZ. The MSG TV series is fine except for the G Armor being retconned out of existence by the film trilogy.
Both Unicorn and Narrative are canon.
Aside from the above mentioned Zeta movies, there do seem to be a few non-canon animated UC works. Of course, this is going by an official UC timeline that was posted to the Hathaway site.
No mention of Thunderbolt, Origin, MS IGLOO, or Twilight Axis. Though I guess this isn't 100% proof they're non-canon (though honestly I always figured Thunderbolt was in its own alternate continuity, anyway)
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Sunrise went with Alexandros for the theme song and Sawano is like "Oh. But I'm still making my own theme song for the movie".
I guess you're right. It's just that Unicorn was so squarely built off of what came before it in UC, and moves the overall UC plot forward in such a way that I can't imagine Hathaway ignoring it.
With Thunderbolt I've always remember it being non-canon but I don't remember why. If I had to guess it would be Federation having fancy mobile suits when/where they shouldn't, but that is the case for a lot of other shows, games, etc. too. And I still haven't seen the second season/movie. I need to fix that.
Origin I have no idea why. I don't remember anything conflicting jumping out to me.
I'll never get tired of 0079 side-stories and finding out that, while the Amuro was slumming it in the RX-78, playing the most pivotal role in the most important battles of the One Year War, Somedude Mangaguy was rocking a brand new experimental RXXX Super Duper Gundam with psycommu and shit and fighting some obscure battles in some backwater no one remembers.
And they are always "testing it for those whitebase newtypes" but trash it in the process :P
Things were mostly believable until 08th came out I guess. Ground Gundams and GMs and Destinys and whatever all over the place after that.
Yeah Alex in 0080 seemed like a believable level of an advanced prototype for that time and the circumstances of why it never got to the actual battlefield were also decently believable to me.
08th MS Team Gundams are also alright, because they were inferior to RX-78.
Everything else just feels ridiculous. Like, they are getting full on battle deployment in some battles no one cares about while Amuro is burning out rickety 78's joints through his Newtypeness.
And actually before I posted I went back to check the scene where the GMs in Jaburo were seen for the first time thinking the Zeon soldiers made a big deal about it, and really they don't. Actually imply that they expect there is more out there, so maybe the rule in my head of "no feddie ms pre-jaburo" is mistaken. Though most of the other OYW content takes place in those November-December later stages anyway.
Been making my way through the uc series in the last year, slowed down a lot due to ZZ. But started to pickup a lot more since the Netflix announcement. Thought I would have more time vs next month. Just got through stardust memory which I had seen before but it's been 15 years. I was looking forward to it cause I thought I remembered liking it. Wtf is up with the last of the series. Who thought it would be a good idea to try to turn it into a love triangle all of a sudden and have it mean nothing. Both kou and Nina were super Agrivating in the later half of the series.
Well now off to 08th Ms team which I know for a fact I liked.
Well now off to 08th Ms team which I know for a fact I liked.
No, this is down to a mistranslated interview. Fans go crazy with what is and is not canon, but Sunrise's view is if it is animated-it's canon. For the most part. A lot of shit like CrossWar and some of the MG manuals are starting to reference Gundam:The Origin manga events and timelines, like Amuro being referenced as being Mexican born, whereas in the movie trilogy he is Canadian and in the OG TV series Japanese. But then you see like in the Hathaway preview material certain series not being referenced. It's all very nebulous and trying to approach a unified Gundam canon is never going to satisfying as it isn't codified.
Mine finally shipped. And I saw the new cases they come in online and...man I don't like them.
I'll probably swap the new discs into the old cases and keep those on my Gundam bluray shelf, and stuff the new cases with the old discs back into the Ultra box.
EDIT: Here's the image I saw of the new cases
This. I can't stop thinking about the Hong Kong night battle. New high in Gundam scenes for me.
The leap is not too too surprising considering it was made ~5 years after the first series with 4 other shows under Tomino's belt. I do prefer MSG's animation, but maybe I just like the incongruous cartoony Yasuhiko takes.
ZZ has a lot of great smear frames and other interesting in-betweens. It's a nice visual contrast to accompany the tonal contrast with Zeta.
It's an adaptation of a novel that most people would not have read regardless of how old it is. The adaptation is also significantly altered because it is a sequel to CCA the movie rather than the alternate novel story.
Only if LotR was only available in a language most people here can't read. Spoiler tags aren't that hard to use out of courtesy.
It is not significantly altered, it's a really faithful adaptation actually. A lot of worldbuilding stuff is missing, but the major beats are all there.
Idk, I just remember reading summaries of Hathaway when I was a kid on like Angelfire sites and on Gundam.com, G Gen tells the whole story and is available in English and the ending is one of the most infamous in the entire franchise.
For new content I generally agree, but nothing about this is new, it just seems ridiculous to censor discussion on something that has been being discussed in the fandom for decades all of a sudden.
are they sure they are definitely the right video versions?Mine finally shipped. And I saw the new cases they come in online and...man I don't like them.
I'll probably swap the new discs into the old cases and keep those on my Gundam bluray shelf, and stuff the new cases with the old discs back into the Ultra box.
EDIT: Here's the image I saw of the new cases
We're also seeing a an influx of new Gundam fans and people interested in the property who haven't had decades of experience with the IP nor are they up for importing games even if they're in English. Netflix and Sunrise (finally!) really seem interested in expanding the fanbase in the West so I'm all for being welcoming and not assuming everyone is as familiar with it as we are.
Spoiler tags aren't censorship, it's just being thoughtful of people who are coming to this whole thing with new eyes. Wouldn't hurt to at least use them until the film is released for the majority of people who are posting here.
I guess but it still seems asinine. Like my general rule of thumb is that the onus is on the spoiler averse. But I mean if it's what you guys want, sure.
In other news, has everyone seen the new Breaker Battalogue stuff? New anime hitting online later this year and the kits are fucking wild looking.
In other news, has everyone seen the new Breaker Battalogue stuff? New anime hitting online later this year and the kits are fucking wild looking.
I'm still bitter Tequila Gundam didn't get a kit of its builder version
Uh, Hong Kong wasn't in this. That battle (and the majority of the film for that matter) took place in Davao, which is in the Phillipines.
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It's just an anime that links Breaker and the Gunpla Warfare mobile game story as the key unit is an upgrade of the main from Gunpla Warfare. You'll even be able to watch the episodes in Gunpla Warfare when they come out.
I just want another game that's an adventure campaign at its core like the PS2 titles and... anything else I might have missed.
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Shout out to MS Saga. Loved that little RPG and the ability to customize my mobile suits.
Yes, anything please. I'm playing through the campaigns in GGen for Rise from the Ashes, Zeonic Front, etc. and it makes me miss them so much.
PS3 had Battlefield Record UC 0081, the god-tier Unicorn and Side Stories. The PS4 had nothing.
As much as I like Breaker, I just want another single player action game that isn't Breaker.
As much as I like Breaker, I just want another single player action game that isn't Breaker.
I remember one of if not the first PS4 conference/show/direct thing had a CG RX-78 and said "Gundam PS4 Coming Soon" or whatever and I was super excited but I guess that just turned out to be Breaker or VS or something.
It was Breaker 3, which was fun, but not what I want.
Take the Battle Operation Online 2 engine and make a single player game. [sigh]
Haha you're right, been rewatching Zeta and keep saying Hong Kong for some reason lately. Even had someone point it out to me that it was in the Philippines weeks ago, derp.
I miss original Gundam titles like that. Feels like Bandai Namco is just afraid to try these days.