Can Trump actually stage a coup and stay in office for a second term?
The president refuses to acknowledge Biden’s win, but experts say there is no constitutional path forward for him to remain in the White House
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The Guardian: Can Trump actually stage a coup and stay in office for a second term?
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Very unlikely, but never say never. Republican silence about this is very concerning. And keep in mind that 71+ million Americans just voted for fascism and would welcome a trump dictatorship.
If you asked me a few days ago I would have said no, but with everything I have now seen these past few days I don't know anymore.
It's 2020. Nothing is off the table.
It's 2020. Nothing is off the table.
"If the country continues to follow the rule of law, I see no plausible constitutional path forward for Trump to remain as president"
Donald J. Trump, famously known for following the rule of law. If Republicans refuse to openly acknowledge Biden's presidency, I wonder how all-in they're willing to go.
Donald J. Trump, famously known for following the rule of law. If Republicans refuse to openly acknowledge Biden's presidency, I wonder how all-in they're willing to go.
Yeah, obviously if a coup were to happen it would be illegal...
Even the MOST legal way for this to happen, via faithless electors, would spur untold civil unrest and violence.
I hope he doesn't concede and he really plans a coup. He is in for a world of hurt.
Remember, he is fighting for his life to stay in power. He knows he is screwed come January.
Remember, he is fighting for his life to stay in power. He knows he is screwed come January.
just a friendly suggestion for those expending a lot of energy on people who are supposedly doomposting
please redirect that energy to the facist ass tyrant and his enablers trying to skirt democray! you'll thank yourself in january!
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please redirect that energy to the facist ass tyrant and his enablers trying to skirt democray! you'll thank yourself in january!
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Liberals do not have the firearms expertise to win a war against the federal government and a bunch of rednecks armed to the teeth
Over 71 million voted for Trump. Not everyone who voted that way would welcome a Trump dictatorship. I'm sorry. It's probably a disturbing number that would support it, but many would be deeply disturbed if he tried to pull a Putin.
This ignores the Kavanaugh opinion in the Supreme Court. Whereby they could rule on the basis of the radical new interpretation of "state legislatures" in the constitution to overrule the governor or state courts and claim that all election matters are determined solely by state legislatures.Can Trump actually stage a coup and stay in office for a second term?
The president refuses to acknowledge Biden’s win, but experts say there is no constitutional path forward for him to remain in the White House
Therefore state legislatures could pass something to that effect and the Supreme Court rule theirs is the only legitimate standing.
It's not a radical notion anymore given that context that the Supreme Court sides with State Legislatures and overrules those governors. Creating a constitutional crisis. Likely, probably not this go-round, but not out of the realm of possibilities, especially going forward.
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He could ask Papa Putin to deploy some Physic Beacons in different states.
My feeling is that no, he can't. He's insulted a lot of people in the military, and I don't see the Supreme Court getting behind something that extreme.
I'm not going to pretend I actually know anything anymore though in regards to what he can get away with.
I'm not going to pretend I actually know anything anymore though in regards to what he can get away with.
So much of our government has been laid open since this administration. The idea of "checks and balances" is basically a gentlemen's agreement-which Republicans lost interest in upholding. Being held in contempt of court-who cares? I just won't show up. Lost an election? Fuck you-we won't acknowledge it.
The Republican Party has removed their mask-they're not pretending to care about tradition and policy any more. If there's anything that might affect them negatively they'll just ignore it-and no one is going to punish them for it.
The Republican Party has removed their mask-they're not pretending to care about tradition and policy any more. If there's anything that might affect them negatively they'll just ignore it-and no one is going to punish them for it.
My question is what a modern day civil war would look like in the US? Where do me and my family go for safety? I live in Southeastern Georgia, I'd be absolutely fucked if militias were going door to door looking for 'Democrats.'
I assume my political leanings are public information online. I know this is unhealthy speculation but I'd rather be prepared than caught off guard, worst case scenario hypothetically.
I assume my political leanings are public information online. I know this is unhealthy speculation but I'd rather be prepared than caught off guard, worst case scenario hypothetically.
No, but in the alternate make-believe reality where this actually did happen, it would immediately be followed by a secession of all the economically powerful blue states and Trumpland would be a failed state by the end of that second term anyway.
No, a lot of those 71 million are not Trump drones, they are simply selfish. They have no appetite to see things upended. This narrative that Trump has some 70 million man army needs to end.
It says if the country follows the law. EC will go for Biden and Trump will rage, but Jan 20 Biden will be sworn in. Trump doesn't have the military support needed to actually stay in power.
Republican senators acknowledge Biden's win behind closed doors. Their goal atm is to keep the base fired up for run off elections. Trump's rhetoric is just helping them do that.
Doom and gloom articles get click. The media is milking this shit.
I'm less considered about the EC stuff and more that if nobody signs off or hands over anything than Biden will come into the white house on Jan 20th with the secret service escorting Trump & crew out and there will be a total mess of trying to get things up and running that will bungle up a month or two.
The President is not the country. He can whine and cry all he wants, but one has to assume that his employees will put their country first.
...Or I could just be ridiculously too hopeful.
...Or I could just be ridiculously too hopeful.
Kavanaugh can dissent all he wants, the Supreme court is never going to turn over hard votes without evidence. Trump's nowhere close to the same position Bush was in 2000.
It's impossible. This entire BS that Trump and the GOP are doing is just a media campaign.
If GA overturns the results of the election, it will galvanize so many voters in the runoff elections that I highly doubt they would even consider it.
Better yet, direct that energy toward the Georgia runoff for a 50-50 senate. Hopefully Trump's shenanigans has Dems energized there.
Yes. Every single one of them.
Every one of them is a racist. Every one of them is a fascist. Not a single one of them would be angry at a trump dictatorship. 71+ million Americans who's only political ideology is "Our lord and master, donald j trump will own them libs".
Doesn't matter. Do you fight for your principles, or lay down and let the fascists win? There's only one honorable option if it comes to that.
Not to mention that Vox is taking a radical view on Kavanaugh's already radical view. The whole SCOTUS ruling was dripping with complaints about how the ballot deadlines were extended "too close" to the actual election.
kavanaugh would have to drag the rest of the court with him, and that shit ain't happening