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The greatest painting in all of human history is Titian's Assumption of the Virgin
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This will be controversial but the Christianity is a critical reason the painting I posted is so good, in my opinion.If you want renaissance with less christianity, Albrecht Durer is for you.
Absolutely not. You like it, it's subjective.
You can't claim ANY objectivity at all.
Art is always subjective.
This drawing does nothing for me.
I've seen 100x better stuff of artists that never get their name printed bc there are so many nowadays since the internet allows art to flourish and everyone can learn it.
This is more surrealism. I like how the work is on the tip of your tongue, mentally. As if you could understand it if you just knew what those objects were. They look like furniture so maybe you try to guess their function. And then you see how they are connected either by pipes or with some thread. What does that mean?
Maybe they are instruments? Why are they there? Where are they? Why would someone even paint that? What is the point?
It reminds me of this
But done deliberately and with (unknown) purpose.
Larson said that he got the idea looking at primitive man's tools and that cow tools would look way dumber. He said his mistake was drawing the one that looked like a saw so people viewing it thought they could figure out the joke by understanding what the other tools were for.
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That fucking water. This is goodYeah, not a fan, sorry OP.
I like Ivan Konstantinovich Aivazovsky and his obsession with the sea.
Well I hope they can explain why better than you. I don't see a big push to criticize italian renaissance art from 500 years ago because of their depictions of POC. But I'm not in those circles.
You don't know of any one who criticizes Jesus and Mary being white washed? Ok.
Good painting, but nowhere near the best. Been in a lot of churches all my life, and the stuff you'll see on the ceilings and walls of some of them put Assumption of the Virgin to shame despite having incredibly similar themes and styles... and in many cases artists who go totally uncredited for it.
Also just about anything by Gustave Dore dwarfs the majority of even those paintings; though a bunch of his best work are woodcuts rather than traditional paintings, so I'm not sure it all counts...
Also just about anything by Gustave Dore dwarfs the majority of even those paintings; though a bunch of his best work are woodcuts rather than traditional paintings, so I'm not sure it all counts...
...I think I'm in love with whatever it is I'm seeing here...A wild Beksinski appears...
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I don't know anyone who criticizes the old masters depicting Jesus as being white.
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A wild Beksinski appears...
Beksinski, the creator of the art that gets reposted 10,000 times by nerds any time painting comes up.
I actually do like his work a ton, but boy does he get posted a lot on gaming and nerd communities.
Yeah, not a fan, sorry OP.
I like Ivan Konstantinovich Aivazovsky and his obsession with the sea.
This is one of the loveliest paintings I've ever seen.
Hieronymus Bosch is one of my favorite artists. While this triptych is his most famous piece, he's got a lot of wonderful works that I recommend people check out if they like this.
Really glad to see someone else at bat for Dore in here. His work is far and away my favorite out there, regardless of being paintings or woodcuts.
Love the works of Gustave Dore. As someone who is colorblind, his work really hits me.
Beautiful. I could get lost in the detail.
Her face...
One more from Gore. It's an etching but it's too good not to put here.
Probably my all time favorite just for the sheer scale of what's occurring within the painting:
It's a general symbolic representation of Christianity winning out over past theologies, but it also totally works as very active bit of imagery of the other gods and goddesses quite literally being cast out. Just the scale of what you see in it and the life every individual figure has (even so far as the personalized faces of each individual angel at in the top half of the painting) is just so above and beyond what I'm used to seeing in most pieces of art from any era... Plus, as a big SMT fan, I'm kind of a sucker for mythological/theological crossover pieces...
Why would anyone do this for a painting that's hundreds of years old? Seems completely pointless.
Two dogs are cheating, not one. The one dog has folded (aka: accepted defeat without throwing more money in), and is passing a valuable card that was in his hand to the other dog. It's a sort of selfless kind of cheating, because the dog that seems to be cheating loses, and gains nothing. And yet, both of the dogs involved in the cheat have stacks of chips, while the other dogs are being cleaned out. It implies that there has been an alternating back-and-forth between these two cheating dogs, as one accepts a harmless defeat to allow the other to score a victory. There is a bond of trust between these two thieves, who accept defeat as the way to win.These are all ok, but man how do you beat dogs playing poker. That one dog is even cheating, that says something profound about the soul
Also note how the two cheating dogs are physically smaller than the five other dogs, whose heads all conspicuously rest above the level of the backrests of their chairs. It illustrates that most basic concept of the underdog. When your strength is greater, those with lesser power must be cunning to survive, and if you grow complacent in your superiority, the cunning underdog will do more than survive, they will destroy you without mercy.
If you're into this sort of style and the surreal desolation feeling it instills, give Wayne Barlowe's "Barlowe's Inferno" a look sometime. It's all heavily inspired by artists like Beksinski, but with a distinct twist on it. I don't think I can really use it as an example here since the images aren't technically paintings, but the quality and sheer otherworldliness of them is incredible.Beksinski, the creator of the art that gets reposted 10,000 times by nerds any time painting comes up.
I actually do like his work a ton, but boy does he get posted a lot on gaming and nerd communities.
Dürrer also did religious works but his drawings, paintings and engravings of profane subjects gives an intriguing look at the time he lived in.
Why do people have to be ok with something because it's hundreds of years old?
I just don't see the point is critiquing something with modern sensibilities that's hundrends of years old. Rolling your eyes at a 500 year old painting of Jesus because he's depicted as whites seems like the goofiest shit ever. To what end? What is being accomplished here?
I actually have a bunch of Barlowe saved on my computer. I really, really love his alien biology art.
Your arguing with people for little reason let people enjoy the painting
Isn't it odd to call anything pointless while posting on a forum? Like, to what end do you waste time posting on a forum? It's an awful counter argument. The age means nothing to me. I can roll my eyes at anything I please.
No, I just don't see it as the greatest painting in all of human history and I dislike the white washing. It's not an anachronism because white washing still exists today. And because it happened 500-600-1000 years ago doesn't mean I ever have to be ok with it. Goodbye.
I made my opinion and had people argue with me. ok? people can have whatever opinion they want of it.
You can do whatever you please, and others can point out that it's foolish.
It's funny that you're argument that something isn't anachronistic involves arguing it exists today. Most anachronism is people mindless projecting the ideas of today onto the past.
No one is telling you that you can't dislike the painting. Just that your reason is moronic.
That just brings up the issue of the field of art history being extremely Eurocentric.
Yeah, I don't know much about art either, but I saw one of his paintings years ago and it stuck with me. If you do a google image search you'll see the ocean is almost the only thing he painted. Reminds me of the concept of being a master at one thing you're passionate about, rather than mediocre at many things.
Always reminds me of this:
Also, I have a soft spot for Raphael's School of Athens for its story. Basically the entire Western Canon and simultaneously the history of Renaissance Art in one place:
The person used for Heraclitus (the guy leaning on the stone front and center) was probably Michelangelo, which is interesting considering that Michelangelo hated Raphael. Plato (middle, pointing up) is probably DaVinci, too.
I was looking for School of Athens in this thread. I thought it would be more popular, but I guess I waa wrong. I also really like the Nightwatch, partially because I'm Dutch and they always praise it here.
My history teacher said that Michelangelo hated Raphael, because Michelangelo's technique wasn't as refines as that of Raphael. One of people looking jealous in the School of Athens is supposed to be Michelangelo.
I might as well post something connected directly with me.
Herb Kane is an artist that was a family friend, who died years ago. I was in a picture he painted once, for a book. My stepdad was a model in one of his painting, as well.
http://herbkanehawaii.com/
He drew everything from depictions of Hawaiian mythology, to ancient practices of the Hawaiians (top row is using the stars to navigate, middle is petroglyph carving and canoeing, bottom is Pele, the volcano goddess among other Hawaiian mythological tales.) He was quite a big deal in terms of modern Hawaiian painters.
My stepdad is one of the six canoe paddlers in that painting in the middle row.
It really sucks that he passed away, because he was such a wonderful fellow. I know his wife, who still manages her husband's work and sells it via this website.
See if you can find any particular works you like on his site! She still sells them.
Herb Kane is an artist that was a family friend, who died years ago. I was in a picture he painted once, for a book. My stepdad was a model in one of his painting, as well.
http://herbkanehawaii.com/
He drew everything from depictions of Hawaiian mythology, to ancient practices of the Hawaiians (top row is using the stars to navigate, middle is petroglyph carving and canoeing, bottom is Pele, the volcano goddess among other Hawaiian mythological tales.) He was quite a big deal in terms of modern Hawaiian painters.
My stepdad is one of the six canoe paddlers in that painting in the middle row.
It really sucks that he passed away, because he was such a wonderful fellow. I know his wife, who still manages her husband's work and sells it via this website.
See if you can find any particular works you like on his site! She still sells them.
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I really love The Nut Gatherers. Unlike virtually every religious painting I've ever seen, it actually makes me feel something. It makes me nostalgic for times when I'd hang out with my cousin when we were kids. She and I'd run around barefoot all day after chuch on Sunday in my aunts giant backyard during the summer. It makes me long for summer and the sound of grasshoppers. I used to hate chuch but I'd love throwing off my shoes and playing outside as soon as we got home.
Christina's World
Based on the sister of the artist's girlfriend. It's intended to be a painting about the strength of this girl with paralyzed legs due to a degenerative muscular disorder. She would crawl out of the actual farmhouse pictured and pick berries and crawl home.
Yet there is just so much foreboding and despair lurking in the corners. It feels like everything is positioned to swallow her up or deny her haven. I've got some deep personal issues with this I will admit. It's like there are wolves at her back or trespassers approaching.
It's funny because it feels like a Thematic Appreciation Test(TAT). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thematic_apperception_test
And I rate poorly.
Based on the sister of the artist's girlfriend. It's intended to be a painting about the strength of this girl with paralyzed legs due to a degenerative muscular disorder. She would crawl out of the actual farmhouse pictured and pick berries and crawl home.
Yet there is just so much foreboding and despair lurking in the corners. It feels like everything is positioned to swallow her up or deny her haven. I've got some deep personal issues with this I will admit. It's like there are wolves at her back or trespassers approaching.
It's funny because it feels like a Thematic Appreciation Test(TAT). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thematic_apperception_test
And I rate poorly.
Dont know what it is about John Martins Pandemonium that attracts me
Maybe because its topical.
Maybe because its topical.
It's ok. Too many naked babies for my taste though.
This is my personal favorite:
This is the one I was going to post, of all the paintings I've ever seen this one captures emotion like no other. Especially in the eyes, like you can feel the sadness and despair in the fathers eyes, and the complete shock in the sons, all in that one fraction of a moment that the painting captures.
Probably ruining all my credibility here, but when seeing this illustration stories started springing up in my mind and I had a strong feeling of wanting to know everything about this scene. As for my credibility, this is the illustration for Toil to Renown by Larry MacDougall for Magic the Gathering.
Maybe I'll come by with some real art later, but I can't think of anything else that had such an immediate impact on me.
Nah Gustav Klimt for me. Bold, brash and sensual.
Relative to this thread - this is the winner.