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The Future of Anthem (Official)
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They are not announcing anything imminent. Everything is still "months" out. A year after launch.
My guess is they want Anthem 2.0 in time for next gen launch. Probably hoping this will be the big and pretty f2p game people play on their new consoles. Next gen Warframe.
My guess is they want Anthem 2.0 in time for next gen launch. Probably hoping this will be the big and pretty f2p game people play on their new consoles. Next gen Warframe.
Another Anthem thread, another crop of "Oh, they can just Realm Reborn it. NBD." posts. :/
I played Anthem for 100 hours, I 100%'ed it. Even if they can salvage the game, what's the point? There's nothing interesting about the story or world of Anthem. No one cares about the lore or characters. This isn't Final Fantasy. They'd be better served by starting over with something new.
Also, "three seasons of new content" is a really generous way to describe the updates that Anthem has recieved thus far.
Battlefront 2?
But on second thought, that's more killing a trend.
And, to be honest, if I were in charge of the business side, that's precisely what I'd do too. People having a hunger for a new game for their new system and Anthem 2.0 being one of the earliest choices would make sense.
... unless they're rushing it to meet that new deadline and it's a mess all over again.
Agreed. Flying for Anthem. Stick to cover shooting with ME, please.
The reason it was not interesting lore/world wise is DICE/EA just messed it up. They could have made it awesome because their ideas behind the lore could be amazingly interesting. Just reboot Anthem, flesh out the lore and world etc.
We have jet pack hover mechanic in Andromeda and it works well. Going to a new galaxy, they could justify the flight with alien technology. I think flying around with your companions and having vertical exploration is more fun than driving around.
I just want all hands on deck for Dragon Age, it's their best IP and the other games had their chance. It's DA's time, but it feels like it will suffer because they are juggling and trying to worry with too much at once.
Wish it was more meaty where they adress the specific problems they plan to tackle, but at least it's something. My guess is that they're aiming for a big re-release in time for the new consoles. Doubt it'll be enough to really get the game back on track considering how long they left it in a sad state, but there's potential for it to work out to some degree.
DA getting the second hand treatment, nothing new to see here.I just want all hands on deck for Dragon Age, it's their best IP and the other games had their chance. It's DA's time, but it feels like it will suffer because they are juggling and trying to worry with too much at once.
I'm not sure lying/sugarcoating hard truths is setting the best example for "young, impressionable minds" and that's certainly not how I approach parenting my own kid. When things are good, I'm honest about them being good. When they're bad, I'm honest about them being bad. EA is, honestly, mostly pretty bad. I don't see why I should pretend that is not the case because I have some vague hypothetical obligation to faceless young children on the internet.
if EA is making claims that people doubt them for, that's for EA to fix. not the doubters. the doubt exists for a reason and there's no need to change that until EA gives us a reason to change it
I'm glad they're talking about major updates, but there just isn't enough information here to get seriously excited about yet.
Maybe they shouldn't have mentioned this yet until they had something concrete to show off? The lack of details makes it very hard for me to be excited.
Also, I kind of feel like maybe they should have pulled the current game so that they wouldn't have to split their teams up with one working on the major updates and one working on keeping the current game going. Just pull it and put everyone on the big update. Go full Realm Reborn on this.
Maybe they shouldn't have mentioned this yet until they had something concrete to show off? The lack of details makes it very hard for me to be excited.
Also, I kind of feel like maybe they should have pulled the current game so that they wouldn't have to split their teams up with one working on the major updates and one working on keeping the current game going. Just pull it and put everyone on the big update. Go full Realm Reborn on this.
Bioware doesn't really endear me
check any threads about announcement for FF7 remake, recent capcom games like Monster Hunter and resident evil, and cyberpunk and you see a lot of optimism
Hmmm, I wonder what the difference is?
I had fun with Anthem and I hope they nail it with the revisions.
I don't know how worth it is for them to turn it around as I'm not sure exactly what they'd be getting out of it. Maybe it's become a bit of a passion project and they feel they have to nail it to salvage both the Bioware and Anthem name. That way they can put out a proper Anthem 2 down the line.
Either way I'm looking forward to it. They can say what they want but I'm sure they know the proof is in the pudding and that the fans want proper results and not just words. Let's see what they can do.
I don't know how worth it is for them to turn it around as I'm not sure exactly what they'd be getting out of it. Maybe it's become a bit of a passion project and they feel they have to nail it to salvage both the Bioware and Anthem name. That way they can put out a proper Anthem 2 down the line.
Either way I'm looking forward to it. They can say what they want but I'm sure they know the proof is in the pudding and that the fans want proper results and not just words. Let's see what they can do.
Awesome! I've played a solid amount of Anthem and still play it about once a week, can't wait to see what the re-work looks like!
Frostbite is made for Battlefield. And absolutely nothing else. It had effectively zero functionality that wouldn't be used in Battlefield, which hamstrung all the developers that were made to make things very far from Battlefield in it.
I hope they pull it off but I feel like it shouldn't have taken a year to make publicly make that decision.
I see a normal, healthy amount of criticism in this thread for shipped product that disappointed quite a few people.
Yeah honestly, this thread isnt that bad. I just see so much negativity everywhere and it makes me sad.
And worse, my accidentally negative comment on all the negativity makes it all worse. Haha. Oops, my bad. Sorry everyone! :)
Changing the fundamental way of how the internet communicates is more realistic than BioWare fixing Anthem
To end on a bit of positivity: I mean I still wish them luck. But it's a hell of a tall order.
I hope they can really give it the realm reborn treatment.
But they should just let the game speak for itself once it's ready.
No writing about beforehand what could be but showing what has been done and let the players experience it first hand.
After the shallow release it's (in my opinion) the only thing that they could do to win people back on the franchise.
But they should just let the game speak for itself once it's ready.
No writing about beforehand what could be but showing what has been done and let the players experience it first hand.
After the shallow release it's (in my opinion) the only thing that they could do to win people back on the franchise.
The only, only, ONLY way you would get people to suddenly care about the lore and worldbuilding of Anthem is if you retconned what was there and rebranded it as Anthem: A Mass Effect Story. Bringing the ME universe into the fold would go a long way in bringing folks back--and introducing newcomers--to the game.
That's a fair point. But still, it released with a dearth of content. The open world felt lifeless, the hub was sterile, and every gun looked the same. I really wanted to like it, but it ended up a directionless mess, the fruit of six directionless, messy years, by all accounts.
I think this is a great approach and I wish them the best. I enjoyed my time with Anthem, and there's an incredible amount of potential in it that was untapped.
Hopefully this makes a strong comeback later this year / whenever. I'll certainly jump back in to check it out.
Hopefully this makes a strong comeback later this year / whenever. I'll certainly jump back in to check it out.
Yeah they need to cut their losses, accept it was a failure and pull the plug. Use what they've learned from this for a new game. Even mentioning Anthem leaves a sour taste in the mouth that won't go away no matter how many times they reinvent the gameplay loop.
The ironman style moment to moment gameplay was so fun. Everything else about Anthem was flat out fucking terrible though. Good luck yall have an uphill battle.
If Anthem can pull a No Man's Sky, I'll hop back in. Until then, it's staying uninstalled and hidden away.
This game was the biggest buyers remorse trigger for me this gen.
This game was the biggest buyers remorse trigger for me this gen.
Never gonna happen. You can paint a piece of shit gold a dozen times but it's still gonna be a piece of shit.
Lol. Trying to find the right way to word that they are gonna try and salvage it. If they really cared they would already be doing this stuff and have more concrete examples of making things better.
+1 on all the allusions to ARR seriously underselling how massive that change was, to the point where I'd honestly call it insulting.
FFXIV was such a reviled mess that SE had to publicly apologize for their fuck-up and threw a whole bunch of shit on hold to shuffle staff in, including getting Yoshi-P as lead director. Under him they proceeded to essentially nuke the original game from orbit and rebuilt the whole thing from the bottom up. As noted in another post, ARR is a sequel in all but name, given how much work was thrown in.
At best we're looking at a No Man's Sky scenario where it's eventually tinkered and patched into something good. Thing is, Hello Games was a scrappy indie studio that had to fix their main big game. EA and BioWare are no where near as indebted to do so.
FFXIV was such a reviled mess that SE had to publicly apologize for their fuck-up and threw a whole bunch of shit on hold to shuffle staff in, including getting Yoshi-P as lead director. Under him they proceeded to essentially nuke the original game from orbit and rebuilt the whole thing from the bottom up. As noted in another post, ARR is a sequel in all but name, given how much work was thrown in.
At best we're looking at a No Man's Sky scenario where it's eventually tinkered and patched into something good. Thing is, Hello Games was a scrappy indie studio that had to fix their main big game. EA and BioWare are no where near as indebted to do so.
I hope they do it.. ARR was an 180° turn for the game and is still a big success.
I love Anthem even with all the flaws it has.. I played it for many hours and I hope they can comeback like FF XIV did with ARR.
It's been a year already and this is all still pretty vague. How long is this going to take? I think in reality there is probably a pretty small team working on this, so expectations should be tempered.
