Even with all of that stuff 65m and episode would be completely insane. They aren't paying Crowe 40m an episode for season 1 of a show.
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The first season of Amazon's Lord of the Rings TV series is set to cost $650 million, $1 billion in total including IP rights
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There's some funky currency rates and whether or not the $200m for the rights in included. I don't buy it. I know this will be the most espensive show ever, though.
Amazon, Netflix, Apple, all these guys are getting FLEECED by old Hollywood studios and production companies. They are all throwing big money and people are here to lap it up. A regular studio would never spend the same money (and they would get the same product at the end cause they know the game lol$. Good for them.
Amazon, Netflix, Apple, all these guys are getting FLEECED by old Hollywood studios and production companies. They are all throwing big money and people are here to lap it up. A regular studio would never spend the same money (and they would get the same product at the end cause they know the game lol$. Good for them.
The rights are less a big deal when you understand it's going to be at least 5 seasons long.
So the $450 million for the first season is basically what Netflix paid for two Knives Out movies.
I'd rather have a LOTR TV show than two Knives Out movies if I were a streamer.
So the $450 million for the first season is basically what Netflix paid for two Knives Out movies.
I'd rather have a LOTR TV show than two Knives Out movies if I were a streamer.
I'm confused, why are NZ paying 100m? Don't Amazon want to film there?
I hope it's a good product with good writing and acting.
The original film trilogy was a lightning in a bottle moment, I fear.
The original film trilogy was a lightning in a bottle moment, I fear.
So they're paying this level of cash in the hope of getting something maybe 75% as popular as Game of Thrones?
Imagine you're HBO and you had what all these companies were chasing and you let it be badly damaged because two guys didn't want to properly finish the story.
Also lol at people who said $10-$15 million/episode for GoT was insane. Any streaming service would gladly pay 2x that if they could have a show that was as popular at its peak.
Imagine you're HBO and you had what all these companies were chasing and you let it be badly damaged because two guys didn't want to properly finish the story.
Also lol at people who said $10-$15 million/episode for GoT was insane. Any streaming service would gladly pay 2x that if they could have a show that was as popular at its peak.
But in case of those movies, the budget already included marketing, right? Production only would be half of that.
how is profitability assessed? how many people remain prime subscribers? how many people watch an episode then click to buy a lotr e-book? Always thought its pretty murky assessing this for Amazon shows.
Where does it say that the $650M figure doesn't include the $250M spent on the rights? The link just has a minister of Tourism and Economic Development talking up how big the production is going to be for New Zealand; he doesn't say that figure doesn't include the money for the rights and I'm not sure he's necessarily up on the finer details of what that budget figure includes and doesn't include. And Amazon's goal is to get as large a percentage a subsidy for the project as possible, so they're going to include absolutely everything they can in the production budget for season 1. I'd wager the $250M for the rights is included in that $650M figure.
That's still $40-50M an episode, not including the initial rights, which is wild.
Including marketing the budget for the two films would have been significantly higher than a billion dollars.
That's still $40-50M an episode, not including the initial rights, which is wild.
Infinity War and Endgame had a lot of hugely expensive actors whose initial Marvel contracts had long since expired. Downey and Evans made huge sums on the films. The two films cost well more than $250M per film.
Including marketing the budget for the two films would have been significantly higher than a billion dollars.
Well, if it means bringing in a ton of jobs for locals they might be ok with it.
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He's a big Tolkien fan. This show along with the revival of The Expanse and The Culture TV series he wanted are all passion projects for him. Profitability probably takes a back seat to these decisions.
Honestly, I was impressed by the production quality of the witcher.
Absolutely bonkers. If this doesn't make GoT look like some history channel show then they're doing something wrong
Show will run for years/decades on Amazon as a marquee title.
It's basically the production cost of three blockbuster 2 hour movies, but this likely will help Amazon's streaming service a lot more than like three "6 Underground" type movies that Netflix paid $150 million for (the Michael Bay/Ryan Reynolds film).
There are cheaper places that the show could be filmed (Eastern Europe), and New Zealand is pretty desperate to keep their status as Land of LOTR. Peter Jackson was already considering moving The Hobbit somewhere else before New Zealand bent over for them as well.
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Indeed. Scotland was in the running before Amazon opted for New Zealand.
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Nazanin Boniadi tweeted a while ago about finishing up a shoot on a vast flooded water set, so that could indicate that they've filmed more than just events from season one.
How much money is NZ projected to make back from this? I know when sports games or big events go to a city, the city makes some money back from tourists and the like. But this is a film production. What I'd imagine is a closed film production.
Are a lot of people going to want to travel to NZ to see where they filmed this? Did a lot of fans go after the LOTR movies came out?
I'm just trying to translate this into a tangible return for them besides notoriety because 100M isn't a small chunk of change.
Yes.
They have expensive tours built around it. I can imagine it has been quite the cash injection over the past two decades.
Okay, I understand now. Might be a few years before they make back that money given the current environment.
i liked the movies. looking forward to this
let's hope they spend more than 0.01% of that on writing
so many huge-budget productions just have nothing interesting going on in terms of plot / planning / story, just making it up as they go along. relative to the amount of money they spend, it's embarrassing
let's hope they spend more than 0.01% of that on writing
so many huge-budget productions just have nothing interesting going on in terms of plot / planning / story, just making it up as they go along. relative to the amount of money they spend, it's embarrassing
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In depth details about the deal:
www.stuff.co.nz
"Documents seen by Stuff said the production could film five seasons in New Zealand as well as a spin-off series over the next decade. While it would undoubtedly deliver economic benefits, a production of that length would have the Government on the hook for many hundreds of millions of dollars. Amazon has been approached for comment."
www.stuff.co.nz
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www.stuff.co.nz
"Documents seen by Stuff said the production could film five seasons in New Zealand as well as a spin-off series over the next decade. While it would undoubtedly deliver economic benefits, a production of that length would have the Government on the hook for many hundreds of millions of dollars. Amazon has been approached for comment."
Amazon may be on the way to New Zealand, as Government signs subsidy deal
Officials have inked a deal worth hundreds of millions of dollars and the promise of closer ties with - and potential investment from - the world's biggest retailer.
www.stuff.co.nz
No. That was production cost only. Infinity War/Endgame are the most expensive movies ever made.
Are they building their own Middle Earth and creating a historically accurate race of Elves, Dwarves and Orcs? Because that's ridiculous. It's probably just being laundered somewhere.
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They're still aiming for a Q4 2021 release to coincide with the 20th anniversary of The Fellowship of the Ring's theatrical release.