But he's old and probably has varicose veins so he likely has poor circulation.
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The Falcon and the Winter Soldier | Starring Anthony Mackie as Captain America | All episodes on Disney+
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I'm going to guess us agent while not as conservative as he is in comics but will be the order following asshole he is. While captain america has worked with the use government he never followed orders he morally apposed. Pretty much what the winter solder movie was about. I think us agent will do something he will ordered to do that's morally objectable which will cause sam and bucky to act.
I would rather him just be a tool than an asshole. I want it to be clear that the system is at fault, not him specifically.
This is always the funny thing about MCU threads. 1/3 complaints about a lack of subtlety, 1/3 confusion about subtext.
Going off WandaVision he will be an asshole and somehow there will also be some kind of sky beam.
"Bucky is seemingly unaware that he has nightmares. Is this confirmation of Nightmare/Mephisto/X-men?"
Me too. That way you can avoid the whole it's just one bad apple stuff.
I think there's room for him to be a tool but also a tool.
Context is never irrelevant. You're choosing to ignore context so that you can treat it like a blanket statement.
He's throwing it out like a cynic who had seen his community be exploited, then subsequently discarded during power shifts.
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I get what you're saying, but I have seen so many comments across the web about people who didn't pick up on the racism or didn't pick up on Bucky killing his friend's son until they saw the shrine.
The MCU audience is broad as can be, which unfortunately doesn't leave a lot of room for subtlety.
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Semi-related, but when Bucky kept saying that he didn't have nightmares, I took it to mean that he doesn't count them as nightmares; he counts them as flashbacks. I didn't see anyone bring that up here, probably because that was the obvious implication, but now it feels like maybe it's not so obvious.
The "subtley" discussion comes up in every marvel thread. The beats that are obvious to you simply won't be obvious to a significant portion of the audience. Even things that are explicitly spelled out, get routinely missed. You'll see it in this very thread.
We had several people in the WandaVision thread that were so confused about the "Scarlet Witch" moniker and were sure she'd been called that somewhere in the MCU despite the show having an extremely blunt scene making it very clear that that had never happened.
Just backing up your post with what I think was the most extreme example of this from the WV thread.
As one poster mentioned the inherent problem is that the more you lean into that angle the more it weakens Sam's journey into becoming I need to replace this guy.
It is a tough balancing act and since this show is more of an action show there is more risk they won't get that balance right.
"I can't believe Kevin Feige would only bring Terrence Howard back for a dick joke"
I mean Sam even admits it! Could it be any more obvious?
That was painful. Honestly would it hurt them to phone a friend and ask them to review it. Jeeze
Agreed, making Walker an explicit bad guy is a convenient escape pod for the themes and it'll be more interesting if they tackle the system instead.
People obviously don't expect full fluency but if you're going to have someone speak another language, it should at least sound like it. Or have a reference ready for the actor to copy.
I think i'd prefer him be the asshole.
Steve Rogers' Captain America was originally used a propoganda agent chosen to highlight how American values contrast with those of the Nazi's.
Overtime, Steve Rogers grew disillusioned with the American government, because pulling off the cloak revealed that the values championed publicly didn't align with reality.
Today in America, far right policies like white supremacy, theocracies and police states are glamorized as patriotic, while ideals like true "liberty and justice for all" are denigrated as communist innuendo. The person selected as the propaganda agent to replace Cap would be a soldier who would vote for Marjorie Tyler Green. The "system" would choose someone who fits the mold, because the people who believe in the status quo are who give the system power.
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or why a certain character was arrested in the end lol
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This show be like:
Some people: I just don't see it!
It really does feel like this show is being watched by two different Americas.
I'm seeing some people on social media reacting with "Wow, that was pretty in your face, they're not being subtle at all."
But then there's a pretty sizable contingent also saying "You're seeing something that's not there and gaslighting the rest of us."
So yeah, I'm actually really fascinated by this reaction, because we certainly didn't get this kind of divide with Wandavision, but now we're seeing some people already saying, "I just want to see my heroes fight injustice, I'm out if this is going to be a political show."
Because the only kind of injustice that exists is personal. It's the only societal interaction that is just arbitrarily immune to group dynamics! /s
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Meanwhile they'll be completely ignoring the total contradiction that statement is making.
Oh don't get me wrong. I don't mind. I just think it'd be a funny interaction in a future Avengers movie. Peter would be like, "Uhhh...hey guys ever thought about using stun guns?"
Quite frankly given how much people today seem to miss or not understand the most extremely basic plot points (just look at WandaVision) I can see exactly why they feel the need to spell it out clearly.
Look at how much people fail to understand the bank scene, a scene I thought was fairly heavy handed.
I lowkey expected all the Avengers to be millionaires at least, but I get what the topic is supposed to be so I'm just choosing not to think about the logistics of it and take it at face value.
Really enjoying the show so far.
Really enjoying the show so far.
I feel this may be something to do with his chin, which he obviously inherited from Goldie Hawn.
I think he was just lying to his therapist since we see him lie to her multiple times about what he says to her versus the reality and she straight up says that they've been doing this long enough that she can tell when he is lying and we see him waking up from the nightmare.
The thing is that the therapist also spells it out that Bucky says he did all the steps correctly (which he didn't) and it was supposed to help with the nightmares, which it might not have since it didn't do it right. The thing is that we do also see that he is making some progress because he tells the truth about admitting to being the Winter Soldier and making amends to the Senator, even if he didn't do it the right way.
I legit had to rewind it to make sure the audio wasn't broken. Not a single word he said was Arabic. Just some mumbo jumbo.
As a Korean, I know many Koreans hate to use banks for loans etc, most likely a language barrier, But I'm guessing there is some racism mixed in. Koreans keep the loaning within the community's. My mom always called it 'K game'. Basically you have a group of 20-25 Koreans. Those that need money sooner end up paying into it more (so basically a loan). Those that can stand to wait on money, end up putting less overall.
Ok but my arabic speaking family had no idea wtf he said. Like it was an entirely different language and they had no idea what it was supposed to be.
They could at least try with basic shit like that, but the middle east and arab nations basically only exist in most western fiction to provide battlegrounds for American heroes. There's comparitavely very little effort that goes into making them feel like real places with real people and cultures.
First episode was pretty good. I thought the action sequence at the beginning was a bit stupid. That Torres guy cheering in the middle of the desert alone was like "okay...."
I like Mackie as an actor after Altered Carbon, but his acting matches a bit better for a more "grounded" role like this. I'm not sure I get the obsession with the boat just yet, they needed to sell that emotional connection more.
bucky's story so far was good.
The episode was like an 8/10 for me.
I like Mackie as an actor after Altered Carbon, but his acting matches a bit better for a more "grounded" role like this. I'm not sure I get the obsession with the boat just yet, they needed to sell that emotional connection more.
bucky's story so far was good.
The episode was like an 8/10 for me.
Torres being able to follow Falcon in a jeep was pretty funny. And then he ends up at the border the same time Falcon does. As was Sam being briefed on the mission moments before it was set to begin. TV is magical.
that guy survived a stomp to the face. To follow the tend in these marvel TV threads — He's totally a mutant. He can make Jeep's drive fast
Makes it easier to understand when they ask for his birth certificate when it's time for him to become Captain America.
I'm honestly surprised that I haven't seen more people taking the bartender's "I'm reading your mind" joke as a reference to mutants.
I always thought it was a PR move for the military. As long as a movie does not portray the military negatively, the military will let them use their tanks, helicopters, and planes to film scenes.
