So if I'm about to grab book 3, I can stop after book 6 and then start the show?
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The Expanse Season 5 |OT| Last Man Standing
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Question about characters, not sure if they are combining them.
Is show Sauveterre the same as Duarte in the books?
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I'd stop at book 5 (Nemesis Games) otherwise you'll spoil yourself for season 6 which will be based on book 6 (Babylon's Ashes).
I wouldn't think so no. He's a separate character in the book, who has a rather grim ending. Duarte has already been referenced in the series via a computer screen graphic so he's a definite force in the TV show universe.
Good to know, thanks. This show is packing a lot of info in screens that I'm missing.
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Yeah, there's a plethora of hidden details throughout the seasons so far.
This is the graphic I mentioned from season 4. Look at the top right corner.
There is no doubt he will play his role after this story arc.
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They don't, no. Frankly their marketing of The Expanse has been pretty half-arsed thus far.
i might want to do this at some point, as well. those first couple of seasons are probably way better on a rewatch since you can focus more on the details
Really stood out to me during the season opener on the science station. The visual effects of the space walk and ships were as good or better than some blockbusters I've seen
I doubt that. The budge for the last season didn't change, I see no reason why they would change it now. The Expanse always looked this great.
This great? It looked better than it should've on the syfy channel but it was still the syfy channel. The show has looked significantly better since coming to Prime.
It wasn't because of budget though, certainly not last season. Personally I can't notice much, really any, difference. The Expanse has always looked incredible for the most part, and both last season and this one lands on the same place. Also, check this post by Digital Dinosaur. There are other reasons the CGI can improve, so it's not entirely impossible that it did.
I did a full rewatch before this season started and the quality of the FX started high and escalated each season. S3 was pretty nuts visually and S4/S5 haven't been huge jumps over that IMO, but they have been improvements. If I compare some of the weaker S1 shots vs S5 it's pretty clear, but S1 had some punching above its weight.
Not too surprising as I would expect the library of assets to grow each season and get refined as they go (eg touch up the Roci, but don't need to make a new model from scratch anymore). Plus artists gain experience with the tools, tools themselves get better, and the show has been going along long enough that the hardware itself would have seen a jump in power.
Not too surprising as I would expect the library of assets to grow each season and get refined as they go (eg touch up the Roci, but don't need to make a new model from scratch anymore). Plus artists gain experience with the tools, tools themselves get better, and the show has been going along long enough that the hardware itself would have seen a jump in power.
But that's an unfair comparison. There had been weaker shots in all seasons, where the shows feel like it's reaching its breaking point in terms of effects. Some interior shots of
I think S1 is still the only one that got an Emmy nomination for best visual effects. And although the Emmys suck terribly and I don't think being nominated for them is any indication of quality, I think technical categories might be more interesting.
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Yeah it's unfair, which is also why I called them out as the 'weaker' ones =) Every season is going to have a few, but it's an endorsement of the Expanse VFX team that there's been so few and even the 'weak' ones are pretty remarkable for a TV show that was on SyFy and that I have to nitpick S1 to find stuff that looks unfavorable vs S5.
Off memory the only shots I remember that were even a little iffy were a few close space ship exteriors that could get a little video-game-cgi ish, but only just. I thought everything Eros related held up really well on rewatch and it's clear the directors knew what the strengths of the VFX vs the weaknesses were and avoided any shots that would look bad.
The planet surface shots for IO and Ganymeade were probably the 'weakest' of any S1-S3 shots, but were still head and shoulders above what you would expect for a basic cable SciFi show.
I agree. The main reason why I think this seasons don't look better is because The Expanse always looked incredible!
Oh, I said Eros but I meant Ceres... some shots when they showed the rich parts of the place were... questionable.
Weekly releases are unmitigated trash. Way to kill all of the excitement and momentum I experienced from the first four episodes.
I personally am so happy that I'm not caught between feeling like I need to binge the whole season just to keep up or sad that I finished the whole thing and won't see season 6 for another year. I'm glad I'll be with The Expanse for another two months right alongside everyone else ☺️
I put off watching the show for years, but picked it up a few weeks back thinking season 5 was the last. Seemed like the perfect time to binge the show and watch the last episode when it was available.
Now I'm out of new episodes and only recently found out I have to wait for a year+ for the actual final season. The wait really does suck :')
No they are the proper way all television should be released.
Counterpoint: binging is better sometimes. Weekly releases for new shows were easier to accept when there was no alternative.
Holy shit. In the show it seemed like they were going with hundreds of million, and there was certainly an air of relief and hope that they stopped the others.
But the book makes it sound like we're talking some Gundam colony drop devastations. Maybe not as bad as After War Gundam X's turning the planet into swiss cheese, but definitely a couple of that infamous Sydney drop one
It's still possible to be much higher damage than shown, as most of what was shown was right as/after it happened. The only one saying "millions" appears to be Naomi, who says it literally after finding out. Could be the first number/figure of speech to pop in her head.
But then, I'm not really sure if stopping 3-6 of them in the show, is how it happens in the book.
Also, how many did the actually throw in the show? The side character says to Marco: "earth destroyed 3, other 3 miss", a 7th rock disintegrated because it got too close to the sun (Rock 9), and then 3 hit (Africa coast, Philly and Southeast Asia). 10 rocks? End of Season 4 showed 8 rocks on his map. End of the 1st episode of this season (after Rock 9 is lost), it's still showing 8 rocks.
Potentially, yeah. It feels good to see the finish product all at once, but it also feels good to have these kinds o f vague discussion and theorizing, for a few weeks amyway, in places like this.
We only saw the first few hours while the asteroid hits were still going on, so that death toll is going to rise much, much higher in the days and weeks that follow. Earthquakes, floods, dust kicked up into the atmosphere that blocks the sun and reduces global temperatures, causing famines are all things that can and probably will occur in future episodes.
That's a trope of prestige dramas in my book. Powerful people always have something brown to drink.
Don't forget being in a fancy bottle it didn't originally come in.
Undoubtedly the casualties will rise and we'll probably get the one bit of exposition that says maybe a billion or two estimated dead, but I'm talking colony drop devastation which is many magnitudes worse than that. And the way the episode ended for earth with that hopeful message makes me think they'll dial back on the overall devastation.
Though I am looking forward to Amos's trip out of there. I'm guessing he will be our eyes on the ground in a hectic earth as Avasarala is on the moon.
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The community has spoken.
From tonight's episode onwards the new spoiler policy will be in effect.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
Once an episode has aired, spoiler tags are not necessary and book spoilers should be tagged clearly.
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CG wise not much has changed, it always looked like this even on SyFy. The main difference now is that now we have full location shoots and more varied sets, we were always going to get some level of location shoot due to nature of Season 4 and Amos' story this season but they were able to do much better in that area. For instance the Illus scenes last season were filmed on a different type of camera, same for the wide screen shoots this season (though there hasn't been that many of them). Keep in mind that SyFy wasn't the only one funding the show back then, they had several other source of funding.
The real test would be how.they show the destroyed Earth, if they even show it properly or just imply the destruction like they did in today's episode i.e. "we shouldn't see sunlight as there is suppose to be a building above us"
Also Avasarala swears a lot more now with Amazon, as it should. Remember Julie Mao's stupid "Forget you!" When they were with SyFy?
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the "I saved your life" line from her son let her to guess. Face wrench confirmed.
The 2 things that made me think she saw/heard, was seeing that they were watching the roci on a screen, and a thing that Filip said, that Marcos saved her by not letting her leave (from going back to Holden at tycho and eventually the roci)
I need to rewatch the scene before she attacked knuckles dude, to hear if he said yes to the roci having the code.