yep! calling it and updating payouts tomorrow morning. was going to tonight but i went out for happy hour with coworkers and am honestly about to flop into bed.
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Payouts have been updated accordingly
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The Easy Allies 2019 E3 Betting Special: Total Degeneration (Place Your Own Bets! Payouts, Leaderboards, and EZA Ranks are live - Results are in!)
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yep! calling it and updating payouts tomorrow morning. was going to tonight but i went out for happy hour with coworkers and am honestly about to flop into bed.
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Payouts have been updated accordingly
Decided to check in and see how I did, and...
...God, I should have put real money on this shit. Only got the FF7R bet because of a technicality, and I put too much faith that no one, not even Todd Howard, could show their face after a trainwreck like Fallout 76 and not apologize, but besides that I cleaned up!
...God, I should have put real money on this shit. Only got the FF7R bet because of a technicality, and I put too much faith that no one, not even Todd Howard, could show their face after a trainwreck like Fallout 76 and not apologize, but besides that I cleaned up!
Results!
Huber and Kyle just screwed me over, lol.
I don't think I will have a lot of DonBucks left now.
I understand the reason why people say it was announced at E3, but it was specifically said by Kyle in the betting special that it wouldn't count if it was announced at the concert. I can't believe he let Huber sway him with that weak excuse. I would have been ok with it if it wasn't specifically said in the video or without Huber's excuse, but his explanation just doesn't make sense at all.
I don't think I will have a lot of DonBucks left now.
Huber's explanation is somewhat weak, as that means that something is always announced as long as people some don't know about it by not reading the internet. I can say that the PS4 release date has just been announced since I just read about it and didn't know about it before with his logic.
I understand the reason why people say it was announced at E3, but it was specifically said by Kyle in the betting special that it wouldn't count if it was announced at the concert. I can't believe he let Huber sway him with that weak excuse. I would have been ok with it if it wasn't specifically said in the video or without Huber's excuse, but his explanation just doesn't make sense at all.
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I find that one completely fair. The people who said "no" were mostly people who thought 7Remake either had no chance of being given a release date or thought it could be as much as a year or more off. Those that put "yes" were taking far more of a risk to assume it would not just be given a tentative date, but an exact day over half a year out.
I mean they literally said in the video it wouldn't count if it was released at the concert. The winner of the bet isn't determined by who takes more risk or what the motives of the people betting "no" are. Some people, (including, it seems like, Damiani) voted specifically because they thought / were told the concert wouldn't count.
For the record I didn't put any Don Bucks on this one so this isn't coming from a salty "I lost money" perspective, it just rubs me the wrong way to change it without really giving any good reason after you stated multiple times it wouldn't count.
I do admit that I thought it wouldn't be shown completely (so just a year or maybe Qwhatever 202x), but Kyle specifically said in the betting special that the concert wouldn't count. And again, with Huber's excuse everything can be "announced" at any time in the future. Just because some people didn't read a date online, doesn't mean it's not announced. That happens litterally with every announcement ever. So with his logic, nothing can ever be announced anymore.
I hope they don't do a "will x be announced" bet next year, because it will always be "no" because somebody didn't see that announcement, so it's not announced for them.
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And again, I am not salty because I lost that bet. I am salty because Kyle specifically said it wouldn't count and because Huber's explanation just doesn't make sense. And the most ridiculous thing about it is that it didn't even matter for his win (as we could have seen from the shockorscoff.com website).
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Bullshit that they reversed the FF7R decision. Knocked me down from 8 to 41 on the leaderboard.
It's even worse because it was the whole crux of last years betting special.
They should try and get Hoeg into these for the ones that are close (I don't know how though).
That 180 on confirmed outcomes is really frustrating. Only means that future bets will mean nothing because the outcome can change based on which answer is more "positive" or rewards "the dreamers" or whatever. Ugh.
Yeah, it did kind off kill this whole thing for me as well, although I still love watching it and I will for sure participate again if they do the website again next year.
And again, not because I went from place 15xx or so to 48xx, but because of how it was decided and then the 180 with a weak excuse. I knew I was lucky with the ruling on that bet, but it was specifically stated in the betting special.
i demand cold blooded to be declared the real winner of 2017 because benzilla was correct and we did hear imagine dragons on sunday.
Great bets this year.
And I didn't come out positive, but didn't do as bad as I thought. Fun having a card of my own to follow along with, thanks fireworksordie for enhancing my E3 a little bit!
And I didn't come out positive, but didn't do as bad as I thought. Fun having a card of my own to follow along with, thanks fireworksordie for enhancing my E3 a little bit!
That FF7R 180...
Kinda kills the vibe of this thing when the point of it is that the rules are consistent no matter how degenerate it is.
Kinda kills the vibe of this thing when the point of it is that the rules are consistent no matter how degenerate it is.
For real.
I would have ended up with above 500 donbucks but the reversal put me on 465.86.
I was thinking from the video that people who said yes and no on FF7 would both get a payout, but then it went in the worst interpretation.
I was thinking from the video that people who said yes and no on FF7 would both get a payout, but then it went in the worst interpretation.
Hmm my payout seems weird. I know I got the Final Fantasy release date question right but it's showing as wrong for me.
when i got the email from Kyle that they were reversing their decision, i literally felt kind of sick. i had chosen not to call any Bets that weren't clear without express confirmation from the Allies, so i felt i'd done the right thing at the time, and having to reverse it meant the possibility that people online thought i was just playing fast and loose with the decisions. literally the last thing i wanted to do is let anyone down.
i hope you'll all understand! apologies again.
Don't worry man, we don't blame you. We're blaming Kyle and Huber (and also Don for skipping town when he owes all of us money).
was yours a victim of the reversal? if not and you think there's still something wrong please let me know and i'll look into it.
I posted both previous and current payouts and you can see it changed my payout.
You don't need to apologise, it's nothing you can do about that. It's Kyle's decision ultimately and Huber's weak excuses (which still pisses me off) that somehow got Kyle changing his mind even though it didn't matter for the winner of their bets. I think it was to screw over Damiani.
Thanks again for the website!
Don may owe Huber some money, but Kyle owes me some for the FF7 and the Ollie decisions smh
TOTAL DEGENERACY indeed
TOTAL DEGENERACY indeed
Hey I don't think anyone blames you, and hopefully no one is taking this that seriously anyway. I may have posted the most about this so far and think they made the wrong decision, but no one should be actually mad. You did great work on the site and it was a lot of fun being able to play along.
I feel betrayed! I hope Damiani takes the FFVII bet to the council, because this injustice needs to be rectified. SHADY!
I mean, I literally bet against FF7 because of Kyle's earlier ruling. I was 100% convinced it'd happen at the concert, so I was dreaming.
This ain't right at all.
This ain't right at all.
Oh, I was actually mad. But just because I hate the feeling of being cheated. And Kyle saying "Imagine that Huber is saying this into your face" made me want to punch Huber in the face (which shouldn't happen, I hate that I felt that way). So year, I was mad, not because of what was decided, but more how it was decided. I never was mad at the website of the people who made it obviously.
It's nothing that a couple of hours won't solve.
Was this a bug? Because I was positive I voted for the announcement but everything's showing I voted against it, like my initial card:
If I voted against it, that's fine, I still think Kyle and Huber made the correct decision in the end, but I'm confused because I was positive I voted for it and even argued for the announcement in that post.
i trust this reply means that your question was answered, and please know that i made that reply on mobile before i had seen your new post.
the Allies sprung this results show release on me while i was on the bus home at work, so i've been kind of scrambling the last hour+. i had been of the understanding that i'd get a heads up again like i did with the launch... apparently not. so sorry if any of my posts or tweets seem off. running around a bit like a chicken with my head cut off and working on handling upset tweets for something i don't have much control over...
I don't know how involved the other allies were prior to the filming of the results (Ian seemed surprised), it would be fun if we got an impromptu trial or council vote on the stream tonight. But they'd have to do the math all over again so I guess that's ruled out........ ;)
i'm really confused now. your original ticket shows you voted No, which was originally correct but reversed. with today's Results Show's decision (which says Yes is correct), you have now unfortunately lost that bet.