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The Division 2 |OT| National Anthem
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At first, I was all ready to jump back in, but then I ran down the feature list for WONY again, and I'll likely wait for a sale. It's what I wanted from an expansion, but the price is a bit steep. My favorite things in the game are exploring and the (main) missions, and it doesn't seem like a great value proposition in those regards. The map size part in particular, assuming the four zones are of comparable size to DC's. Ultimately, 30 is not all that much, but I got the base game for not a lot more than that when it came out, so that's also kinda coloring my perception.
if you want to get it cheaper day 1 you can use the 20% off 100 uplay point coupon on it
Oh, right. I should keep that in mind. I'll probably still wait for it to drop into the 15-20 range though. But thanks for the reminder.
I booted the game up again but when it loaded I looked at my inventory full of gear and started trying to figure out what was good or not. Then I simply shut the game down again. Definitely waiting for gear 2.0.
Gonna hold fire on the expansion to see how that shakes out based on base game launch. Also this 'battle pass' has really rubbed me the wrong way so I might wait for discount.
Gonna hold fire on the expansion to see how that shakes out based on base game launch. Also this 'battle pass' has really rubbed me the wrong way so I might wait for discount.
if you just play through the campaign then the new gear system isn't really going to change much for you cause you are just switching to higher level items the whole time anyway.
i#d say get it cheap now, play it and then jump back in whenever which will give you more content and patches to your experience again
I played a while back up to when the first raid came out and have some gear sets and the like. Since I'm already at max level is it worth playing until the expansion comes out? I imagine all the new stuff will make the old stuff redundant?
There are new missions you haven't done yet that you can play through but gear wise it doesn't matter
Doubt it. Targeted Loot is still gonna have some use in D.C, especially for grinding specific brands and weapons with gear 2.0 at Warlords release.
As for your question, in case you do have the year 1 pass, it's not a bad idea to max out the three post-launch specializations that were releasd (Gunner, Technician, and Firewall) before the expac releases
It's true that Level 40 gear will all be better than Level 30 gear.
The reasons to play now:
1 - Get all of the blueprints (the crafting bench will allow upgrading of them to level 40) - a good amount of blueprints are locked behind doing weekly runs of the normal mode raid
2 - Get all of the exotics (these are being re-tooled, so it's impossible to say which will be really strong going forward, but the devs have said on Twitter they are looking to make them upgradeable to level 40, so they will likely still be relevant going forward)
3 - Get all of the weapon mods (a lot is changing, so this meta might shake up)
5 - Get credits/resources for re-calibration (the devs have said re-calibration will be more expensive than previously, since it's far stronger - not a bad idea to have a lot of credits when it drops)
6- Upgrade your specializations so that you are ready for TU8.
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Discussion with thylander here, basically everything in our current stash (if we plan on going to level 40) will be trash. Green and blues as we progress 30-40 with be better rolled than our current high ends at level 30.
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And the level 30 and level 40 recal banks are separate so as soon as you step on the road to 31 you won't be able to access the level 30 items at the recal station anymore.
MadMax on Twitter
“hello sir. sorry for asking this question, i don't know if someone else asked or not. first lets say level 30 and level 40 gear score is 515. question is, is there any difference between level 30 items and level 40 items !? @Thylander”
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And the level 30 and level 40 recal banks are separate so as soon as you step on the road to 31 you won't be able to access the level 30 items at the recal station anymore.
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Hmm. Is the raid less punishing/strict on having an extremely optimized build now? When it launched it sounded absolutely terrible and something I should not do because I didn't spend hours trying to minmax my build for a specific role that the game did not care about at all until then. I also didn't really want to be on voice comms with strangers, though I'd be willing to do it with Era clan people (if I'm even still in one, lol).
Normally I wouldn't care but the post above about most blueprints being locked behind the raid had me concerned.
Normally I wouldn't care but the post above about most blueprints being locked behind the raid had me concerned.
Honestly, it's not bad. People have it figured out at this point. You can either do it slowly with 8 people with pretty good DPS, or you can do it really quickly if 4-6 have builds designed for the raid and they switch it up boss to boss. Basically:
1 - First boss is easy to take down with just decent DPS. It can be beat in like 30 seconds if you have people with Aces and Eights proc'd and timed sniper shots, though. But yeah, not hard.
2 - Second boss (gas room) is easy with decent DPS too. There's a way to time sniper shots to make the whole thing beatable really quickly without having to deal with the gas, but even without that, not particularly bad.
3 - Third boss (the two dogs) if you have two groups that actually look at the health bars, it's easy to just slowly and safely kill them. That said, if everyone switches to an SVD with good stability/Lucky Shot and Opportunistic, you can down them both before they ever leave the middle.
4 - Razorback is the hardest one. But honestly, all you need is:
4 players that focus on the random yellow enemies.
4 players that focus on generators.
It's helpful if a few proc Aces & Eights or have opportunistic going, but in general, just 2-4 players with the sniper specialization can down the weak points really quickly. Like the other bosses, there are ways to do it really quickly if you time the shots just right.
But yeah, honestly, the LFG groups tend to be built these days on 6 players who know the raid like the back of their hand, and they are just looking for two players. I used to just go into these saying that I had high DPS and could focus on Ads or Generators for Razorback, just tell me what you want, and crush the raid in 15 minutes. Now I have builds for each section so I can fill the gaps missing...but yeah, it's really not bad at all.
So i just got back into the game. starting from scratch, what are some tips and tricks to gearing up and getting into the flow of the game?
the last time i played was like 10 minutes into the game on release, is there a list of major changes i should seek out? like patch notes and the like?
im a total noob here.
the last time i played was like 10 minutes into the game on release, is there a list of major changes i should seek out? like patch notes and the like?
im a total noob here.
Thylander just updated me on Twitter.
Apparently I was right that the % based attributes will still be god rolls. BUT, they are separating the stat library for re-calibration between Level 30 and Level 40. Which means that, while we may be in possession of god rolls right now, we won't be able to apply them to level 40 gear. So yeah, sadly you're right that it looks like most gear (anything that can't be upgraded like exotics) will be trash.
From Level 1-30, honestly, just focus on equipping gear that drops with a higher level (and try to find guns you most like). Once you hit World Tier 5, you can focus on trying to unlock all of your talents/actually getting a build together, but honestly, don't even bother. March 3rd's update will change everything, so your best bet is to just play through the game now without worrying and see how things shake out later.
For solo PVE, the Revive Hive is great, as is the chem burst heal or the drone that heals or deflects. Basically anything to keep you alive. The assault turret is good for taking aggro early. The rest of the skills start getting more useful when you can really exploit their damage once you have a more optimized build.
So my takeaway is that if I haven't played since, say, last April, and I'm getting the expansion, I could probably just toss 90% of my inventory right now and not really lose out on anything?
OK, so I'm wanting to buy this on PC as it's ridiculously cheap and I had fun with the first one, but I have a question, is cheating an issue at all on PC? Any issues I should be aware of?
i had a blast with the first game on xbox and played this at a friends and it just clicked again.
i had a blast with the first game on xbox and played this at a friends and it just clicked again.
absolutely. it's what I did. I literally deleted everything except my current gear and have been dismantling every single item i am getting so i can get resources.
Here I am complaining the game is too easy, and this fucking Pentagon mission decides to slap me around continously. That damned drone thing at the end stun locks me every damned time and I cant do a thing about it.
Any tips? I've tried aiming at the rotors and its camera, but it doesnt seem to make a massive difference.
Any tips? I've tried aiming at the rotors and its camera, but it doesnt seem to make a massive difference.
Is there a season pass for this year 1?
I saw it mentioned elsewhere the year 1 pass is on sale, but I thought all DLC aside from the new one coming out was free for this game, a little confused.
I saw it mentioned elsewhere the year 1 pass is on sale, but I thought all DLC aside from the new one coming out was free for this game, a little confused.
Yeah. Deconstruct to max your resources, then sell. Keep exotics, though.
This is great news, although I would have preferred the alternative answer that I just got really good at the game.
I'm back in, looking forward to the gear changes and the new expeditions.
those were in from day 1. sandstorms and rainstorms are just very rare
were they? I don't remember them being this frequent or intense
Apologies if this has already been covered but I missed it, but I was wondering about that referral thing. Getting that hunter outfit would be cool (has a similar designed mask to the one I wore in D1 all the time) but I'm not even sure where to go to find info on it? Seen people posting referral links but I am having trouble finding anything about it on their website. I'm rank 30 so I would have to give my link to someone else but as I said I am having trouble figuring this out even if it's obvious stuff.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
So this game doesn't have any skill trees or skill customization or anything like that?
Where does build variety come into play? Just the weapons you use and gear stats?
Where does build variety come into play? Just the weapons you use and gear stats?
if i buy the warlords of new york expansion on xbox right now, do i get access to the 30 boost immediately?
I played a ton of this when it came out but never really got into the endgame. Is it worth playing much endgame stuff now considering all the gear 2.0 and skill changes coming in a couple weeks?
A lot of smart changes that should've been in the base endgame tbh since they're pulled straight from TD1 (Global events, global directives from Underground -- why wasn't this here already?). Not sure I like Battle Pass-type progression dropping in both Siege and Division but, ideally, it means we keep getting map expansions and content without having to pay for a Y2 pass.
Downside is that I worry that them dropping the entire map in the initial expansion without a Y2 pass means that this is the last major content drop for a long time -- potentially the entire lifecycle of the game. Guess we'll have to see how it ends.
Downside is that I worry that them dropping the entire map in the initial expansion without a Y2 pass means that this is the last major content drop for a long time -- potentially the entire lifecycle of the game. Guess we'll have to see how it ends.
everytime i think of seasons and battle passes for an evolving RPG i get PTSD to how shit Destiny 2 has become.
It does have skills in form of specific gadgets/tools and every one of these items have sub-categories. Additional, gear usually is divided into tank, support and dps categories. You can mix that stuff, but a set of items from the same category also comes with set bonuses.
They only said they are "thinking about" being able to upgrade exotics at a later time after the expansion. You will have to regrind them.
Am I understanding this correctly?
People who don't buy the Expansion will be capped to level 30, while the people with Expansion will level up to 40, and there will be loot for those levels?
People who don't buy the Expansion will be capped to level 30, while the people with Expansion will level up to 40, and there will be loot for those levels?
Yes.
without the expansion you get a gearscore increase to 515 so people have something new to farm but all items and the characters are still at lvl 30.
With the expansion there is no more gearscore, instead you and the items you find go from lvl 30-40. So an endgame item will just be "lvl 40" and not "gearscore X".
Are there guns in this game with elemental effects like electricity? Asking because I picked up shock bullets last night and thought they were kind of a cool effect. It made me curious if the top tier of guns have effects like that.
That is fucking base-game owners and telling them that yUo dOnT nEeD tO bUy tHe eXpanSiOn
You cannot get the best items in the game without the expansion?
You will forever be at the disadvantage being either handicapped or unable to run events on the highest difficulty. Also, what about the Dark Zone, will you be able to carry level 40 items into it?
Every single piece of content that you have access to without the expansion has a lvl 30 version. Even the new raid that is coming out has a lvl 30 and a lvl 40 version. DZs are also split by levels which they always have been.
You will of course not have access to expansion exclusive loot, that would be silly.
However you can absolutely have lvl 30 GS 515 "god roll" equipment which will mean you are at the pinnacle of lvl 30 players.
You never have to interact with expansion owning players ever.
So to confirm, your 31-40 levels gear is not allowed in the content that is <30?
it's the same as it is right now: the only way to get into lower level content is to join a group with a lower level player. At that point you are also scaled down, although the scaling (don't hold me to this, it's been a year since I was ever scaled) is not perfect
So what would happen to the level 40 gear in the scenario where the group has 30 40 40 40 party, joining the level 30 activity?
This entire Expansion, level cap increase, exclusive loot is bullshit. At no point we had this in Division, all of the paid DLC was the side-activities without increasing any power levels. Everyone was a happy level 30 schmuck trying to collect classified gear and roll the best version of their guns. Everything was fair, consistent and logical.
The only reason to increase the levels is to have the fake-value in the Expansion. Why cannot it just be missions in new Zones... Perhaps the loot table is expanded with higher % to drop in Expansion missions, but at no point it should be exclusive to paid DLC.
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