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The Division 2 Is Ditching Steam For The Epic Games Store On PC [See Threadmarks]
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Explain why.
I wait for that. Explain me what needs to be done and how does moneyhatting games will make things better.
Because I have something to reply to that bullshit:
No one is "worried."
Consoles are walled gardens with no competition. If you want to sell your game on PS4 you have to play by Sony's rules. There's no potential for another store to put the heat on Sony and make them lower their prices.
PC is an open platform. Different stores can compete with each other, to the benefit of consumers. If the result of this competition is a lower average cut from digital storefronts, then you might see some action being taken by console manufacturers.
User Warned: System Wars
It's not really fair, and is extremely childish, but I think watching pc gamers get upset by store-front news is my new hobby :)
I know...I know...steam offers lots of features that others don't, and it's got a much better consumer protection policy (for refunds, it doesn't care too much about kids gambling for csgo knife skins).
We're already at 8 pages of one line glorious takes such as #NoSteamNoBuy.
I know...I know...steam offers lots of features that others don't, and it's got a much better consumer protection policy (for refunds, it doesn't care too much about kids gambling for csgo knife skins).
We're already at 8 pages of one line glorious takes such as #NoSteamNoBuy.
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Good. Get all triple-A big budget games off steam. Steam should only be for indie games and early access survival games.
All of your posts in this thread make you come off as a bit of a loon mate. You've not posted anything to convince me that Ubisoft are being paid by Epic to put The Division 2 on the Epic Store. Until news comes out that such a thing happened, maybe cool it with the conspiracy theories yeah? A subsidiary of THQ Nordic is not the same as one of the largest publishers in the industry.
That's not happening because uplay exists and is required for all Ubi games.
And this is true for all Epic Store games (expect Journey, I guess).
the good thing for me personally so far is that i had absolutely zero interest in any of the games that epic moneyhatted to come to their store so far... its gonna betough tho when they bribe muh animu games, but i doubt they do that as they seem to be only interested in a certain very popular subset of developers / games
Lol @ thinking that a publisher that has accepted money hats from platform holders will miracously not take a money hat from another publisher that is currently making just as much money as said platform holder.
Like, I'm not sure you are aware, but there's this thing called Uplay where Ubisoft gets 100% Of the money. Surely if the cut was the issue it would be Uplay exclusive.
When the launcher is shit and doesn't offer anything of use, it's deserved. fuck the epic store.
Exactly. Something else is at play on this and if it was uplay exclusive than I could understand, this is pretty shitty.
In this case you didn't see the negative effects of Valve's monopoly (because they kept their consumer friendly strategy) but developers did.
No. They signed that deal because they'll keep more of the profits. There's a big difference in the splits. I can see moneyhatting a few desperate Indies but the price tag to a AAA dev expecting to sell millions just to get people to try your launcher doesn't make any financial sense. It makes less sense than moneyhatting on consoles because you aren't getting someone to buy your closed ecosystem. Even if they try your launcher, if they don't like it, they won't use your launcher again unless forced to. On the other hand, buying a console for a 3rd party exclusive means other purchases will likely be made through that ecosystem.
Moneyhatting big devs isn't a sustainable business model for launchers. It'll never pay itself back. Whatever Epic could afford to pay would be peanuts compared to overall sales profits. It's the margins that matter. Likely Ubisoft is making a play to get Steam to offer more competitive margins.
R6:Siege is regularly in the top 5 most played games on Steam but sure Ubi, good luck giving Steam the finger.
Steam isn't a monopoly and has lots of competition. See Fortnite which kinda started this whole mess. And did you know that you can buy Ubi's games on Origin? Oh and Uplay obviously.
Steam isn't a monopoly and has lots of competition. See Fortnite which kinda started this whole mess. And did you know that you can buy Ubi's games on Origin? Oh and Uplay obviously.
Do pubs actually get more money from digital sales on console? I had assumed the hardware holder took most of it but I'm probably mistaken. Personally I'm all digital so I'd be happy if my buying habits were beneficial to publishers, espescially smaller ones.
First they announced Ashen, and I did not speak out-because I did not want Ashen.
Then they announced Hades, and I did not speak out-because I did not want Hades.
Then they announced The Division 2, and I did not speak out-because I did not want The Division 2.
Then they announced Splinter Cell...I'm on board,take my money.
Then they announced Hades, and I did not speak out-because I did not want Hades.
Then they announced The Division 2, and I did not speak out-because I did not want The Division 2.
Then they announced Splinter Cell...I'm on board,take my money.
I'm not sure why some of y'all are so in favor of a Steam monopoly over PC gaming. It's really simple to just launch another application to access your purchase. This is good competition and hopefully it continues to so Valve will be forced to improve the Steam experience.
If you think steam is a monopoly, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about in the first place.
More companies need to move to the epic store. Valve takes a huge hit in revenue. Forced to go back to half life 3.
Because Epic has a huge user base through Fortnite and they're charging publishers very little.
Lol but wheres the nuance? The inbetween. Sure the monopoly seems better from your consumer perspective, but what about the developers who needed to heavily discount their game in the first place to have a chance at being seen on Steam? Of course, I'm sure most dont care and will say they should have made a better game or something but thats not healthy for the industry either.
So do you, considering you didn't acknowledge the fact that they are giving a while +4% than that to the Epic store.
I'm interested when those same developers notice the negative effects of epic buying exclusivity because it will happen and I bet they will be crying than.
I know about Uplay, but I buy Ubisoft games on Steam.
Steam is not a monopoly. You can literally buy keys for games from 20 different store fronts of which Valve sees 0% of the sale.
Their too busy advancing VR and making games for that to be caring about this.
uplay has been the better option than steam to buy Ubi games for quite some time now.
Why does it need competition when it's best in class in basically every aspect by a far margin compared to everyone else? Its feature set isn't even close to being matched by anyone else. All this does is force fragmentation, which hurts the consumer.
All the steam versions of Uplay games do is provide a link to your library, and something you can double click to launch Uplay. You can buy it from Uplay (for cheaper than Steam, because it's always cheaper there) - and just create a link through Steam with a few clicks and it's exactly the same.
It's fine and great to act all hyperbolic but I wanted to get this message out to everyone so that we can calmly move on to the freaking out about microtransactions part of the conversation. I would hate for everyone to miss that.
It's fine and great to act all hyperbolic but I wanted to get this message out to everyone so that we can calmly move on to the freaking out about microtransactions part of the conversation. I would hate for everyone to miss that.
You've been moving goal posts all other the place though.
I've been telling you there's been a lot of cases of a 12 months timed exclusives. You told me it's a conspiracy theory.
I've been showing you store pages showing that. You told me it's a conspiracy theory.
Heck, you've been proving that yourself by posting the remove steam page. You're telling me it's a conspiracy theory.
Someone has shown you one of the dev explaining the deal going on. You're telling me it's a conspiracy theory.
I don't know what to tell you, but I know you'll tell me it's a conspiracy theory.
They do.
Like, I am not upset about this particular game because I do not actually care for the franchise.
I just dislike this trend. I dislike the idea that I cannot simply buy a game on the store I want, with the features I want.
I will get over it eventually, but I additionally dislike how much people are tripping over themselves to minimize this.f
I just dislike this trend. I dislike the idea that I cannot simply buy a game on the store I want, with the features I want.
I will get over it eventually, but I additionally dislike how much people are tripping over themselves to minimize this.f
And? You original comment was about exclusivity.
Not being on steam doesn't make it exclusive to Epic store, that''s like saying Ubi games were exclusive to steam until now.
As many have stated Ubi games were always cheaper to buy on uplay (or almost the same price when considering regional pricing, I say this from my personal experience with Indian store), and since uplay was required for everything buying on steam it's really a different kind of situation than other Epic moneyhatting in recent few weeks.
Epic's launcher doesn't have an offline mode? Wow it's even worse of a launcher than I thought! And I thought Bethesda's launcher was bad!
You could argue that the regional pricing that Steam (Ubisoft on Steam) offered to Chinese players, that uPlay didnt have, made it popular in China which is one of the biggest R6 regions...
Completely agree.
At first, I was genuinely optimistic that Epic would add value to the PC ecosystem through new store features, better consumer pricing. etc.
Now its clear they're just buying sh!+.
Yea for publishers and dev teams. But I don't like the PC space having fragmented storefronts if I personally don't benefit.
(The humor is that everyone involved in this conversation - including me - is after their own gain; I don't want yet another launcher.)
