Yeah, I got about halfway through the mission last night before timing out and saw neither elite heavies nor the large robotic turrets, so they're a definitely an indicator that the game is spawning enemies from the wrong template.
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The Division 2 - BETA |OT| Core temperature rising. Threat of hypothermia decreased.
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Yeah, I got about halfway through the mission last night before timing out and saw neither elite heavies nor the large robotic turrets, so they're a definitely an indicator that the game is spawning enemies from the wrong template.
Didn't get to play a ton of beta because of work, but I made sure to get the invasion mission done. Fun stuff, feels like a tightened up Div1, and sniping is still as satisfying as ever. My biggest complaint is that I couldn't figure out how to shoulder my rifle, or if I even could anymore, like Division 1. Sometimes (most times) I don't wanna use the scope because the range simply doesn't call for it, it simply existed for stat bonuses. Minor complaint though. I do think the "super" weapons were pretty underwhelming, except the nade launcher. The super sniper didn't seem much more effective than the standard rifle, it still took 2 shots against enemies you'd think using the super weapon on would wreck. My buddy was pretty underwhelmed with the crossbow, but the grenade launcher was invaluable against the DoggoBots. I actually think we would have gotten stuck at that checkpoint if he didn't have that thing.
I've been wanting some more Division for months now, it scratches itches that Destiny doesn't quite reach by itself. What I played of the beta confirmed that's what I'll be getting in Div2. I hope Survival isn't too far down the road.
I've been wanting some more Division for months now, it scratches itches that Destiny doesn't quite reach by itself. What I played of the beta confirmed that's what I'll be getting in Div2. I hope Survival isn't too far down the road.
Finally got to the Dark Zone today. I don't really understand it. I found a ton of items, but none were contaminated.
The elite enemies were dropping green gear. What is this garbage? The best I found in this demo was a blue item back at level 2. All green since then. Ah well. Beta is over I think.
Here are a few screens from my last play session. Not too impressed with the visuals overall. Very inconsistent. Some indoor areas look like they aren't finished yet. Some of the daytime lighting is just bland if the sun is directly above. For some reason, I don't remember D1 ever looking bland.... though it had a more interesting setting.
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Some depth of field
Unfinished indoor area? Would not think this is from a game in 2019.
Bland outdoor lighting. An example of the game just looking average sometimes.
Ground clutter is nice
I think they really exaggerated the size of some of this foliage so it would stand out.
About to enter the DZ
The DZ
The elite enemies were dropping green gear. What is this garbage? The best I found in this demo was a blue item back at level 2. All green since then. Ah well. Beta is over I think.
Here are a few screens from my last play session. Not too impressed with the visuals overall. Very inconsistent. Some indoor areas look like they aren't finished yet. Some of the daytime lighting is just bland if the sun is directly above. For some reason, I don't remember D1 ever looking bland.... though it had a more interesting setting.
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Some depth of field
Unfinished indoor area? Would not think this is from a game in 2019.
Bland outdoor lighting. An example of the game just looking average sometimes.
Ground clutter is nice
I think they really exaggerated the size of some of this foliage so it would stand out.
About to enter the DZ
The DZ
Really impressed with how much content they're offering in the beta. There's no way I was going to finish all of it in a weekend.
2 main missions, 5 sidequests, one endgame mission and this awful pvp mode...could all be done in 2-3 hours
I'm impressed if you can do all of that in 2-3 hours lol. I get side tracked unlocking safe houses, control points, etc.
I know this is hyperbole about AI to make it sound ultra hard, but Tusks AI is nowhere near levels of "beyond real humans". At least on Normal they were nothing special when compared to AI running gangsters. They push, suppress and do their best to overwhelm your positions which is good AI behavior in cover shooter game so player has to stay active with more than just RMB and LMB.
AI is smart, and similar(if not better) to the LMB AI of Div1 legendary missions.
The main concern is enemies teleporting, not reacting to damage, and the use of cheap one shot abilities that plagued the launch and first year of Div1.
The main concern is enemies teleporting, not reacting to damage, and the use of cheap one shot abilities that plagued the launch and first year of Div1.
Really sold on the game.
But would like rc car/ drone spam to be toned down a bit.
Enimies are not nearly as bullet sponge as people claim them to be. Especially from early division 1 days.
I do wish you would get a slight hp regen at critical health though. From my limited experience health kits are rare as shit.
But would like rc car/ drone spam to be toned down a bit.
Enimies are not nearly as bullet sponge as people claim them to be. Especially from early division 1 days.
I do wish you would get a slight hp regen at critical health though. From my limited experience health kits are rare as shit.
I agree that enemies need to have higher skill CDs or obey by same-ish rules as our Agents do. Now you can get swarmed by RCs and drones if you aren't effective and fast with controller clean up. Which can be tricky when being pushed by wall of meat and metal to push you back. In many ways game is designed to overwhelm you is good so you have to move, but think of those poor RC souls!
There is regen, but you only regen critical HP and none of the armor. Just takes a bit to kick in.
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If you play smart, they shouldn't be a problem... My buddy and I just 2 manned the hard mode.
Contaminated loot is really rare and possibly not in the beta.
There is no way you're going to do it in 2-3 hours... Unless you run directly from point A) to B) without any sight seeing, exploring, or enjoyment.
I'd recommend reading through this:
https://tomclancy-thedivision.ubiso.../Intelligence-Annex-Welcome-to-the-Dark-Zones
it gives a good rundown of how the DZ works in Div 2. They've made a good amount of changes to the DZ since Div 1.
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Melee is confusing and the camera doesn't help. if you get jumped by one of those runners I just ended up mashing buttons to try and get clear for a shot.
Reading bout all the changes to D1 after I stopped playing I might go back to that for a while. I played that solo and D2 feels less good like that - enemy tactics and numbers really seem to want multiple players covering flanks etc
Reading bout all the changes to D1 after I stopped playing I might go back to that for a while. I played that solo and D2 feels less good like that - enemy tactics and numbers really seem to want multiple players covering flanks etc
I was on the fence, but after the beta I'm sold. The end game mission was challenging. The DZ with three other players was fun. Exploring the city had some surprises, like the chainsaw guy in the underground. The settlements and patrols added live to the streets. The cover system is also a nice change of pace after I burned out on Destiny.
Agreed. I actually laughed at the unplayable comment. Did that mission first time on hard with randoms.
I'd like them to retain difficulty, not dumb it down. They need provide content for all skill levels.
The endgame mission is a lot easier with a partner, but it's absolutely doable solo. Just have to pick the right abilities. Stuck with the flashbangs, the fixer drone and the normal explosive seeker mine. Immediately took the scope off the sniper and stuck a holosight on it. Sniper scopes take way too long to zoom in to be useful. The basic guys die in a single headshot, the purple veterans in 2 headshots and the gold elites in 3-4 headshots. Even up close the SMG was really effective. TTK felt good at that level. I didn't play the other two specializations though so I can't speak to the weapons they are provided.
I will say that the boston dynamics robot with the sniper rifle is just fuckin' bullshit though. It'll two shot you while taking a stupid amount of punishment. Seeker mines were a god send. The remote controlled explosive drones were a lot more annoying before I learned that they take maybe one bullet to kill and if you shoot them as soon as they appear, the explosion will kill the operator and you won't have to worry about any more of them.
I will say that the boston dynamics robot with the sniper rifle is just fuckin' bullshit though. It'll two shot you while taking a stupid amount of punishment. Seeker mines were a god send. The remote controlled explosive drones were a lot more annoying before I learned that they take maybe one bullet to kill and if you shoot them as soon as they appear, the explosion will kill the operator and you won't have to worry about any more of them.
There are contaminated items in the dark zone. I got a superior shotgun and a pistol in the the dark zone.
Downloaded this with every intention of playing it at the weekend but was completely addicted to Apex... ugh. Is there a general consensus here? Anyone have thoughts on this compared to Y1 Division? (I never played the expansions for D1)
I gave up on trying to get a manageable instance in the endgame mission. Annoyingly, the one I got the first time was perfect for solo play, but I had to attend to some stuff and my session was killed due to inactivity. :(
Compared to vanilla Division 1 this is a lot better. Faster and more nimble movement, faster combat, more aggressive and coordinated AI, small beta area was loaded with content etc.
They took lessons from Division 1 and carried them into 2 with some additional QOL on top. This is more Division, but better.
I came to post exactly this. I enjoyed TD1, despite its flaws, and was pretty lukewarm on TD2 until the beta won me round. Just generally fun to play, the loop is good and the enemy encounters actually require thought, rather than brute force.
The inventory and skills menus are still far too fucking complicated. and why do I need to go back to the quartermaster to spend my skill points? There's definitely a few needlessly annoying things still there, for sure. But lots to love.
Agreed. Needs some tuning for sure with how ammo is distributed.
Got some rounds of conflict in before the beta finished, I enjoyed it but the aesthetics definitely need some work especially the texture loading issue on the Pro, I was running on an invisible floor for the first 15 seconds or so of a round and the characters looked pathetic at the pre round stage. The gameplay itself was fine and if you had a half decent shotgun you were laughing. Had some long range battles and upclose fights and even managed to get some armour repairs in, sticking with team mates is definitely a must especially with no insta heals.
I wanna say this was reported like very, very quickly after the beta launched and this was one of the issues a member of the team acknowledged or said they'd forward on via reddit. I could be mistaken, but I thought they said at least they were aware of it.
There remains some in TD1 tbh; not as bad as this beta. I'd expect it to be similar to the first game. Occasionally seen but not enough to negatively impact time with the game.
The music throughout each of the missions and side missions was fantastic. That really stood out to me over the weekend.
They have acknowledged the issue yes, and it's one of the things they said they would look into.
Yeah to be honest the way I was feeling last night if could have bought it then and there to continue playing I would have ha ha.
I still love everything I did about the gameplay from the first one. That methodical, tactical Tom Clancy action is just great to me. The music was a notably awesome and fitted perfectly. All in all the gunfights were just great.
The invasion mission was really good and I loved the aggressive, organised enemies in that. Only downer was their stupid tendency to call out what they are doing ad nauseam (who does that?). I've been wanting mechanised units in this game since the first one to give some much needed enemy variety so it was great to see that. They were pretty scary as they should be.
New environment is a huge plus for me. Good riddance to the snow and NYC.
I don't think I like the whole idea of specialisation to be honest. Also I picked the sniper and the way the scope worked in that was just awful. I really hope that's just a particular scope and not how all marksman rifles work now.
Biggest concern for me is the bugginess that people were reporting and I that I experienced as well. You would expect some network issues in a beta like this but the audio and graphics glitches are unsettling.
All in all though I really just want to continue playing but concerns about launch bugginess and Sekiro in the same month means it's very much up in the air right now. I just don't know...
Maybe worth keeping hold of the beta download on your platform if you want to play it again as it was slipped out on a dev stream that they're hoping to have fixed afew bugs for the open beta (that hasn't been announced yet):
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019...cidentally_outed_by_massive_entertainment_dev
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019...cidentally_outed_by_massive_entertainment_dev
I played all of the content in the beta over the weekend, and I found it to be good but not great. The new areas look great, with a lot of nice little details to make the world feel real. When the audio worked (which wasn't often) the guns and music sounded great. I liked the "brand" sets for the green/blue gear. It adds a nice layer of customization for early game. And the new types of encounters, like hostage situations and public executions were fun too. There was a lot to like there if you were a fan of the first game, which I was. However, there were a bunch of things I didn't like.
I like the idea of control points: fighting off a few waves of enemies, calling in civilian support, claiming it for bonuses in that area, and paying resources to "stock up" the supplies at the control point. But I already hate that the supplies constantly drain after doing so. I can tell that it will be annoying trying to keep all of the control points owned/stocked as you unlock more of them. I really hope there is a way to permanently claim them. Not only would that make it feel like you're actually reclaiming the city (ast he main plot implies) but it would also be one less annoying thing to worry about in end-game.
I don't like that, yet again, our player character has no voice. That's basically unacceptable today, given the fact that there are so many other voiced characters in this game. I also don't like the new running/falling animations. They look awkward. They were much better in the first game.
I don't like that there are only three end-game specializations. That's not enough, and none of them are powerful enough. I played the end-game mission and niether the grenade launch nor 50 cal sniper one-shot anything; especially if they had armor or were elites. To make matters worse, you can only have 6 bullets for those special weapons, supply crates don't give you more, and enemies barely dropped ammo for them. Though that last one is probably a bug. My brother said he had multiple drops for his, but I never saw any despite us being in the same group and killing the same thigns. They either need to make those weapons do significantly more damage, or they need to give you more way more ammo.
Overall, I played a ton of the first game and I liked what I played in the demo. But like the first game, I expect a lot of issues at launch, so I will probably wait for a price drop or a few significant patches before diving in.
I like the idea of control points: fighting off a few waves of enemies, calling in civilian support, claiming it for bonuses in that area, and paying resources to "stock up" the supplies at the control point. But I already hate that the supplies constantly drain after doing so. I can tell that it will be annoying trying to keep all of the control points owned/stocked as you unlock more of them. I really hope there is a way to permanently claim them. Not only would that make it feel like you're actually reclaiming the city (ast he main plot implies) but it would also be one less annoying thing to worry about in end-game.
I don't like that, yet again, our player character has no voice. That's basically unacceptable today, given the fact that there are so many other voiced characters in this game. I also don't like the new running/falling animations. They look awkward. They were much better in the first game.
I don't like that there are only three end-game specializations. That's not enough, and none of them are powerful enough. I played the end-game mission and niether the grenade launch nor 50 cal sniper one-shot anything; especially if they had armor or were elites. To make matters worse, you can only have 6 bullets for those special weapons, supply crates don't give you more, and enemies barely dropped ammo for them. Though that last one is probably a bug. My brother said he had multiple drops for his, but I never saw any despite us being in the same group and killing the same thigns. They either need to make those weapons do significantly more damage, or they need to give you more way more ammo.
Overall, I played a ton of the first game and I liked what I played in the demo. But like the first game, I expect a lot of issues at launch, so I will probably wait for a price drop or a few significant patches before diving in.
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If they properly fix up the ps4 pro version and the disconnects are lessened I'll consider giving it another go. It was hard to go back for a 3rd evening's play knowing how broken it'd look and not knowing if we'd end up being booted before completing what we were doing.
I have the Beta an hour or so of play-time this weekend, (I just can't shake my Destiny 2 love bug, lol)
Immediately I noticed the complaints about the game looking like a PS3 game at points. Are they aware of this and looking into it? The 3d esque' UI is umm, something else..... I can;t say I really dig it, but it's probably just one of those things you have to use for awhile to get used to it.
I enjoyed the gun play though and I'm looking forward to the challenge of a tps shooter after playing so much Destiny of the past couple years.
Now I'm just waiting for the clan details to get posted to get everything set up and ready to go!
Immediately I noticed the complaints about the game looking like a PS3 game at points. Are they aware of this and looking into it? The 3d esque' UI is umm, something else..... I can;t say I really dig it, but it's probably just one of those things you have to use for awhile to get used to it.
I enjoyed the gun play though and I'm looking forward to the challenge of a tps shooter after playing so much Destiny of the past couple years.
Now I'm just waiting for the clan details to get posted to get everything set up and ready to go!
Regardless of the (expected) Open Beta, Massive do have quite a task ahead of them to addressing the balance concerns and bugs. From a development perspective, they consider Div 2 to be a sequel without Div 1's hardcoded baggage, e.g. chicken dancing and grenade pre-stagger (somehow still in Div 2). So, there's no excuse this time if these problems persist, especially months after launch.
Some extra thoughts on the Private Beta:
Some extra thoughts on the Private Beta:
- UI menu navigation is thoroughly dreadful: there's baffling button changes, extra unnecessary clicks, and ugly visual effects.
- Assigning [C] as default for push-to-talk instead of anything else, is a total waste.
- Having to press [Space] to emote can fuck off, emoting in Div 1 was fun because it was quick and without hassle.
- In contrast to most NPC allies, the VA work on Dark Zone officer Seniat Ezera is awful, she sounds like a last-minute script reading of blatant tutorial instructions. Honestly should change.
- Colour contrasts are definitely off, especially during the transition from outdoor to indoor spaces and vice versa, I hope a return of neutral lighting addresses this. Sometimes NPC/health bar visibility in the dark goes to shit and this generally wasn't an issue in Div 1.
- Noticed turrets attempting to target NPCs behind entire walls during missions, not sure how this even occurs.
- Nature of randomised open-world events can result in bizarre results, for example: rescuing a hostage that required an access key drop, but in the end actually had my character push aside busted elevator doors to let them out.
Finished all the story missions and the end-game mission last night just before the Beta ended. Wasn't feeling it until I got to the end-game mission. Black Tusk AI and enemy types are incredible, better in every way to any enemies in Division 1. Definitely not regretting preordering the game if that's what I can expect from the end-game.
Still wish the dialogue wasn't cringy af though.
Still wish the dialogue wasn't cringy af though.
Ubisoft sent out a survey if you want to provide some feedback about the private beta, check your registered emails.
Don't mind him, he's had a bug up his ass about this game since the tread started. The beta had a ton of content. I spent 8 hours or so playing and never did the same thing twice.
Never noticed the turret bug, was it with all of them or just one of them? Considering we can now choose the target of the turrets, this might be a low priority fix.
I missed the Endgame reward, thinking that maxing out my Dark Zone lvl to 10 was a beta challenge- it's not. :[
Those that are fans of the Division series, I'm as pumped as you all are. While it's likely already been stated, some points:
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I don't mind that; whatever keeps D1 single-player from shutting down! Further, how about the option to swap D1/D2 characters & maps? Such a neat concept!
Just progress the story at your pace, you'll appreciate the world building from finding all the narrative items.
Those that are fans of the Division series, I'm as pumped as you all are. While it's likely already been stated, some points:
Good-
- Graphics are still fantastic, making the crisis believable
- Sound design is equally as terrific
- New QOL improvements to player urgency & overall gameplay
- Awesome weather effects
- Perhaps there's more Autosave respawn points during missions now? I hope so
Bad-
- Did we play the intro? D1 was better, here we emerged from some overgrowth
- I prefer the Asian mentor agent & the overall cast in D1 but Odyssa (sp) is such a badass
- I feel that the OST in D1 sounds more fierce, listen to this magnificent track Beginning @ the 3 minute mark:
- I really hope the player creation options has more faces
- Some areas of the Main Base & Settlements are too vast in size for their own good. Also in D1, each section per Safe Area had a large holographic sign telling the player what this area does (ie, Crafting) [this will likely be in the release build]
- Either the cursor is more accurate or it's less visually apparent IF my turret is going to prop on top of a surface (ie, ledge). This was easier to do in D1
- A player activating Rogue status should be locked in for 1x minute before switching back & forth
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- Evil antagonist operative has recordings in the beta; let us face him!
- Probably beta limited, though NPCs should be roaming around that streets trying to survive like in D1. The narrative here really has to emphasize the heat & how this affects their survival. I expect to hear desperate voice messages of people running out of water, suffering from the heat, etc
- Too few dogs & all they do is run from you. Where are the cats?
- Can there please be a codex explaining where the Potus is & wth is going on in relation to D1? Echos reveals that gangs have started to form into a larger community of sorts... this would likely happen quickly when people see that JTF can't support entire city hubs. Yet there's massive plant overgrowth on very tall buildings. I don't think the timing fits
- I don't mind the player character being silent; I'm here to go in & get it done!
- Wth is agent Kelso harping about? Goddam Odyssa has 1x leg! She's in house & should be inactive like the Asian agent in D1... with 1x functioning eye, you can't put them in combat
- I still experience weird button bugs when activating the rolling ball explosive skill
I don't mind that; whatever keeps D1 single-player from shutting down! Further, how about the option to swap D1/D2 characters & maps? Such a neat concept!
Just progress the story at your pace, you'll appreciate the world building from finding all the narrative items.
I'll agree with above.
All though, unfortunately it probably is I hope in main game has a better intro... Than whatever the hell that was.
In grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, but that intro is really lazy.
All though, unfortunately it probably is I hope in main game has a better intro... Than whatever the hell that was.
In grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, but that intro is really lazy.
I wasn't trying to be snide or anything. Sorry if I came off sounding unappreciative there. It's just... the beta didn't really do anything for me. I played a LOT of The Division 1... and there isn't enough fresh here to get me to come back. Just felt too samey without the cool setting\atmosphere.
Beta participants should've gotten a survey. It's a bit lengthy (15-20m) but if you can, do fill it out! It can be interrupted and resumed later. Completed surveys will make for (more) useful data points. Massive has shown to respond to player feedback, so it will certainly feed into their decision making.
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